Which Penalty Call Was Worse this Weekend- Brady vs Onside Kick

Soxrule111 · 10-10-2022, 02:27 PM

So we had two of the worst calls this weekend.

The Falcons were called for Roughing the Passer on a 3rd down in which Tom Brady was Sacked (cleanly)

or

In college Football a Team attempted an Onside Kick. The receiving Teams Player waves his hands up for a Fair Catch.

The kicking team recovered, but was penalized for interfering on a Fair Catch. So they got the back and the yards basically in field goal range to start.

TheFrenzy · 10-10-2022, 02:33 PM

Even Brady knew the call was BS.

clocsta2323 · 10-10-2022, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Soxrule111

So we had two of the worst calls this weekend.

The Falcons were called for Roughing the Passer on a 3rd down in which Tom Brady was Sacked (cleanly)

or

In college Football a Team attempted an Onside Kick. The receiving Teams Player waves his hands up for a Fair Catch.

The kicking team recovered, but was penalized for interfering on a Fair Catch. So they got the back and the yards basically in field goal range to start.

Smart play vs. a play even Brady was embarrassed to talk about post game.

mainelobster · 10-10-2022, 02:38 PM

Brady call was bad. As bad as them missing the blatant pass interference on Scotty Miller the play before. Refs were terrible that game.

no10pin · 10-10-2022, 02:44 PM

This isn't even a contest, the college play was just a smart play.

If you had told anyone about the situation that happened with Brady and didn't name the QB, I think about 90% would just assume it was Brady.

dcarado · 10-10-2022, 03:07 PM

I'm confused, are we saying the fair catch was the wrong call? I was watching that game and was more blown away that the player was aware enough to wave for the fair catch.

clocsta2323 · 10-10-2022, 03:14 PM

You know you've hit rock bottom when Brady admits you've hit rock bottom.

majestik101 · 10-10-2022, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mainelobster

Brady call was bad. As bad as them missing the blatant pass interference on Scotty Miller the play before. Refs were terrible that game.

Agreed. The refs have been horrible across the board this year.

As for the call, it was just like when the NBA used to protect Michael Jordan. It wasn’t really roughing in the traditional sense, but welcome to the modern NFL. The game has changed. You can’t slam a quarterback. It is what it is.

Fenway55 · 10-10-2022, 03:40 PM

Regarding the fair catch, I think college and pro rules are different in this matter.

In the pro game, once the ball hits the ground, there is no opportunity for the receiving team to call a fair catch. However, it seems that in college you can still call a fair catch on a ball that bounces in the air.

So the college call was the correct one, but the same play in the pros would not have been ruled the same.

BostonNut · 10-10-2022, 03:40 PM

You must have missed the roughing the passer call in the Pats game.

JeremyNick · 10-10-2022, 04:33 PM

The double whammy of tackling Brady too hard and then him getting away with a kick.

Should have been 15 in the other direction.

asujbl · 10-10-2022, 04:45 PM

The OKState player is a damn genius who will get the rules changed in a year

So this thread is dumb

Archangel1775 · 10-10-2022, 04:46 PM

I just dont know what defenders are supposed to do? You can't fight science. Objects in motion stay in motion. Simply embrace the QB's? If they start doing that, you're going to see a 280 pound DE grab the QB and fold under their legs so they can't throw the ball.

asujbl · 10-10-2022, 04:48 PM

Straight out of the rule book… they just didn’t think anyone was smart enough to read the second part

“A fair catch of a free kick is a catch by a Team B player who has made a valid signal during an untouched free kick.” Additionally, the rule book states that “during a free kick, a player of the receiving team in position to receive the ball has the same kick-catch and fair-catch protection whether the ball is kicked directly off the tee or is immediately driven to the ground, strikes the ground once and goes into the air in the manner of the ball kicked directly off the tee.”

EBCollectibles · 10-10-2022, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by majestik101

Agreed. The refs have been horrible across the board this year.

As for the call, it was just like when the NBA used to protect Michael Jordan. It wasn’t really roughing in the traditional sense, but welcome to the modern NFL. The game has changed. You can’t slam a quarterback. It is what it is.

Now like they have been doing for Lebron James for years.

TheFrenzy · 10-10-2022, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Straight out of the rule book… they just didn’t think anyone was smart enough to read the second part

“A fair catch of a free kick is a catch by a Team B player who has made a valid signal during an untouched free kick.” Additionally, the rule book states that “during a free kick, a player of the receiving team in position to receive the ball has the same kick-catch and fair-catch protection whether the ball is kicked directly off the tee or is immediately driven to the ground, strikes the ground once and goes into the air in the manner of the ball kicked directly off the tee.”

I mean, wasn’t it an Ohio State guy who famously said he wasn’t there to play school?

asujbl · 10-10-2022, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

I mean, wasn’t it an Ohio State guy who famously said he wasn’t there to play school?

How is this school?

Do better. This is like a 1 out of 10 for you

Sad

Fenway55 · 10-10-2022, 05:19 PM

There's really no nefarious explanation for the roughing call beyond this: Jerome Boger is a horrible referee. He made a bad roughing call last week against Baltimore.

majestik101 · 10-10-2022, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

There's really no nefarious explanation for the roughing call beyond this: Jerome Boger is a horrible referee. He made a bad roughing call last week against Baltimore.

Awaiting clocsta2323's take.

blackbears86 · 10-10-2022, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

There's really no nefarious explanation for the roughing call beyond this: Jerome Boger is a horrible referee. He made a bad roughing call last week against Baltimore.

YUP. He takes roughing the passer to a whole new level.

Boo · 10-10-2022, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

How is this school?

Do better. This is like a 1 out of 10 for you

Sad

1 out of 10, that would pass his class.

mainelobster · 10-10-2022, 08:37 PM

That roughing the passer on Chris Jones while taking the ball away from Carr was even worse. These refs are terrible. It's football!

JohnnyHatesJazz · 10-10-2022, 08:45 PM

Bogar has been a bad referee for many years. You need to take that into account here.

JWBlue · 10-10-2022, 11:59 PM

It might be a good idea for lineman to just grab the QB and hold on until the play is blown dead. Forget tackling.

TheFrenzy · 10-11-2022, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

they just didn’t think anyone was smart enough to read the second part

Quote:

Originally Posted by asujbl

How is this school?

You're talking about literacy and intelligence in the context of a university activity.

I think the discourse warrants a Cardale "not here to play school" Jones joke.

View Poll Results: Which Penalty Call was Worse
Tom Brady Roughing the Passer	34	82.93%
College On Side Kick Fair Catch called	5	12.20%
College Onside kick is worse, but was by the rules so the Brady play is worse	2	4.88%
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10-10-2022, 02:27 PM	#1
Soxrule111 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: DeKalb Posts: 14,774 Soxrule111	Which Penalty Call Was Worse this Weekend- Brady vs Onside Kick So we had two of the worst calls this weekend. The Falcons were called for Roughing the Passer on a 3rd down in which Tom Brady was Sacked (cleanly) or In college Football a Team attempted an Onside Kick. The receiving Teams Player waves his hands up for a Fair Catch. The kicking team recovered, but was penalized for interfering on a Fair Catch. So they got the back and the yards basically in field goal range to start. __________________ Texans Future Super Bowl Champions

10-10-2022, 02:44 PM	#5
no10pin Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 16,892 no10pin no10pin	This isn't even a contest, the college play was just a smart play. If you had told anyone about the situation that happened with Brady and didn't name the QB, I think about 90% would just assume it was Brady. __________________ Always looking for more George Brett stuff. Need more rookies, low numbered inserts/parallels and on-card autos (no Panini).

10-10-2022, 03:40 PM	#10
BostonNut Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 61,475	You must have missed the roughing the passer call in the Pats game. __________________ "It's true that whenever rectal issues come to mind thoughts of you aren't far behind" - HairySas September 4, 2025 "GD it. I am a doofus." - majestik101 October 16, 2025 “This is the baseball section, NN ” - Bosoxfan5990 November 25, 2025

10-10-2022, 04:45 PM	#12
asujbl Temporarily Suspended Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 63,299 ohiosundevils	The OKState player is a damn genius who will get the rules changed in a year So this thread is dumb __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

10-10-2022, 02:33 PM	#2
TheFrenzy Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Texan in AZ Posts: 44,115	Even Brady knew the call was BS.

10-10-2022, 02:38 PM	#4
mainelobster Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,172	Brady call was bad. As bad as them missing the blatant pass interference on Scotty Miller the play before. Refs were terrible that game.

10-10-2022, 03:07 PM	#6
dcarado Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,575 dcarado56	I'm confused, are we saying the fair catch was the wrong call? I was watching that game and was more blown away that the player was aware enough to wave for the fair catch.

10-10-2022, 03:14 PM	#7
clocsta2323 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: D.C. Posts: 6,869	You know you've hit rock bottom when Brady admits you've hit rock bottom.

10-10-2022, 03:40 PM	#9
Fenway55 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 6,834	Regarding the fair catch, I think college and pro rules are different in this matter. In the pro game, once the ball hits the ground, there is no opportunity for the receiving team to call a fair catch. However, it seems that in college you can still call a fair catch on a ball that bounces in the air. So the college call was the correct one, but the same play in the pros would not have been ruled the same.

10-10-2022, 04:33 PM	#11
JeremyNick Banned Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 22,801	The double whammy of tackling Brady too hard and then him getting away with a kick. Should have been 15 in the other direction.

10-10-2022, 04:46 PM	#13
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,878	I just dont know what defenders are supposed to do? You can't fight science. Objects in motion stay in motion. Simply embrace the QB's? If they start doing that, you're going to see a 280 pound DE grab the QB and fold under their legs so they can't throw the ball. __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

10-10-2022, 04:48 PM	#14
asujbl Temporarily Suspended Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 63,299 ohiosundevils	Straight out of the rule book… they just didn’t think anyone was smart enough to read the second part “A fair catch of a free kick is a catch by a Team B player who has made a valid signal during an untouched free kick.” Additionally, the rule book states that “during a free kick, a player of the receiving team in position to receive the ball has the same kick-catch and fair-catch protection whether the ball is kicked directly off the tee or is immediately driven to the ground, strikes the ground once and goes into the air in the manner of the ball kicked directly off the tee.” __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

10-10-2022, 05:19 PM	#18
Fenway55 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 6,834	There's really no nefarious explanation for the roughing call beyond this: Jerome Boger is a horrible referee. He made a bad roughing call last week against Baltimore.

10-10-2022, 08:37 PM	#22
mainelobster Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,172	That roughing the passer on Chris Jones while taking the ball away from Carr was even worse. These refs are terrible. It's football!

10-10-2022, 08:45 PM	#23
JohnnyHatesJazz Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 7,156	Bogar has been a bad referee for many years. You need to take that into account here. __________________ JohnnyHatesJazz is the unofficial Blowout Forum DJ He is also: *Captain Of The Mayeflower*

10-10-2022, 11:59 PM	#24
JWBlue Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,702	It might be a good idea for lineman to just grab the QB and hold on until the play is blown dead. Forget tackling.