Observations on the current state of the hobby from a show this weekend - Page 29

MoreToppsPlease · 10-16-2022, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mwash1983

Went to the Syracuse state fair show today and maybe a few hundred at the show. My observations and one of my friends at the show was people looking but no one buying at all. I actually bought but spent 25 dollars as the selection was very subpar. I found an Andrew Painter 2018 Elite Auto and 2017 Masyn Winn contenders auto. There was a ton of pelican boys trying to sell but no one was buying. I walked away from a dealer’s table and guy called me a f’ing ahole for not buying anything. I am thinking that I may be done with shows for the years as a lot of fools still have 2021 prices baked in.

After 18-24 months of listening to the moon bois (where did these opportunists/vultures snake back to after reaping their profits?) they mistakenly thought a hobby would make them wealthy.

Same thing happened in the ‘90s.

hermanotarjeta · 10-16-2022, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mwash1983

Went to the Syracuse state fair show today and maybe a few hundred at the show. My observations and one of my friends at the show was people looking but no one buying at all. I actually bought but spent 25 dollars as the selection was very subpar. I found an Andrew Painter 2018 Elite Auto and 2017 Masyn Winn contenders auto. There was a ton of pelican boys trying to sell but no one was buying. I walked away from a dealer’s table and guy called me a f’ing ahole for not buying anything. I am thinking that I may be done with shows for the years as a lot of fools still have 2021 prices baked in.

What prompted him to cuss you out like that?

anusinha · 10-16-2022, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

After 18-24 months of listening to the moon bois (where did these opportunists/vultures snake back to after reaping their profits?) they mistakenly thought a hobby would make them wealthy.

Same thing happened in the ‘90s.

The lost their money made in cards buying pictures of monkeys.

theshowandme · 10-16-2022, 12:34 PM

A lot of negativity here, on Twitter, and YouTube as of late around shows.

Chantilly is 5 days away and I’m excited

mwash1983 · 10-16-2022, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

What prompted him to cuss you out like that?

I sighed because the guy’s table was a mess with cards thrown everywhere and nothing was priced, and most of what the guy had was the mass produced stuff. I was trying to help out a friend find older products and vintage.

mwash1983 · 10-16-2022, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

After 18-24 months of listening to the moon bois (where did these opportunists/vultures snake back to after reaping their profits?) they mistakenly thought a hobby would make them wealthy.

Same thing happened in the ‘90s.

Yeah saw a lot of Acuna Topps Update RC’s PSA 10’s for 200-300, aren’t they like 50 now.

LVDan · 10-16-2022, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mwash1983

Yeah saw a lot of Acuna Topps Update RC’s PSA 10’s for 200-300, aren’t they like 50 now.

Yikes. It’s one thing to miss or even cast aside a comp on a rare item and hold for your price. Acuna updates should be something you’re either competitive with or leave at home.

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imbluestreak23 · 10-16-2022, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme

A lot of negativity here, on Twitter, and YouTube as of late around shows.

Chantilly is 5 days away and I’m excited

I'd say most shows are probably going to hum along okay so long as it's not one of the big ones.

SupermanBrandon · 10-16-2022, 03:42 PM

Its the big shows that showed up in 2019-2022 that will be in the most trouble. Small shows will keep humming right along.

ThoseBackPages · 10-16-2022, 03:44 PM

Love The National!

SupermanBrandon · 10-16-2022, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Love The National!

Greatest 4-5-6-7 days of the year!

ThoseBackPages · 10-16-2022, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Greatest 4-5-6-7 days of the year!

clocsta2323 · 10-16-2022, 03:56 PM

When do you guys get tired of speculating on this stuff? I mean when it's the same 10-12 people unless they are trying to write the Bill of Rights there's really nothing else to be discussed.

Just hit pause for a second and wait a couple months dudes.

imbluestreak23 · 10-16-2022, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by clocsta2323

When do you guys get tired of speculating on this stuff? I mean when it's the same 10-12 people unless they are trying to write the Bill of Rights there's really nothing else to be discussed.

Just hit pause for a second and wait a couple months dudes.

Then blowoutforums will be no more.

theshowandme · 10-22-2022, 04:57 PM

Chantilly was busy today. Lots of pelican cases, kids, and dealers saying they’re not able to take a loss. Saw some booths buying a ton of inventory (some board members here).

I bought/traded into 5 cards

blackbears86 · 10-22-2022, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme

Chantilly was busy today. Lots of pelican cases, kids, and dealers saying they’re not able to take a loss. Saw some booths buying a ton of inventory (some board members here).

I bought/traded into 5 cards

Very nice!!!!!!!!!!!

How was the show in general?

theshowandme · 10-22-2022, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbears86

Very nice!!!!!!!!!!!

How was the show in general?

Today was quite busy. A lot of Peli-bois trying to swing deals, a good amount of kids, and lots of good conversation. Learned a lot from vintage dealers. An incredible amount of people trying to sell to dealers and unfortunately many modern dealers not wanting to accept reality with the current market.

Chantilly is my home show and it blows my mind every time I go. I have a blast no matter what.

ThoseBackPages · 10-22-2022, 05:39 PM

HoBbY iS DeD, bRo

Pacmeyer · 10-22-2022, 05:44 PM

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HoBbY iS DeD, bRo

You know it's over when they're turning it into a movie.

theshowandme · 10-22-2022, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

You know it's over when they're turning it into a movie.

vintg · 10-22-2022, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme

Today was quite busy. A lot of Peli-bois trying to swing deals, a good amount of kids, and lots of good conversation. Learned a lot from vintage dealers. An incredible amount of people trying to sell to dealers and unfortunately many modern dealers not wanting to accept reality with the current market.

Chantilly is my home show and it blows my mind every time I go. I have a blast no matter what.

awesome pickups !!! and thanks for the update.

i'm in chicago and we are fortunate to have ALOT to choose from if you
don't mind driving a bit. chicago suburbs, southern wisconsin, northwest indiana.

went to a small show in addison , IL today, picked up a beautifully centered
'65 willie mays, sgc 5.

mwash1983 · 10-23-2022, 01:33 PM

Went to the Albany show today, good turnout at the show. I actually was able to sell something, I sold off my Julio Rodriguez clearly authentic auto for decent money. As far as me buying it’s the worst show I ever been to, I spent 10 today and 5 of that was to get in. I buy anything and this guy has upper deck young guns and other stuff and go to the guy is this best price and said yep, the guy was asking 125 for a Jack hughes yg when they are 70 on eBay. Keep your prices high that’s why you don’t move anything. I am likely done with shows for the year outside of maybe one.

anusinha · 10-23-2022, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mwash1983

Went to the Albany show today, good turnout at the show. I actually was able to sell something, I sold off my Julio Rodriguez clearly authentic auto for decent money. As far as me buying it’s the worst show I ever been to, I spent 10 today and 5 of that was to get in. I buy anything and this guy has upper deck young guns and other stuff and go to the guy is this best price and said yep, the guy was asking 125 for a Jack hughes yg when they are 70 on eBay. Keep your prices high that’s why you don’t move anything. I am likely done with shows for the year outside of maybe one.

"cAnT tAKe a LoSs, bRo"

SupermanBrandon · 10-23-2022, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mwash1983

Went to the Albany show today, good turnout at the show. I actually was able to sell something, I sold off my Julio Rodriguez clearly authentic auto for decent money. As far as me buying it’s the worst show I ever been to, I spent 10 today and 5 of that was to get in. I buy anything and this guy has upper deck young guns and other stuff and go to the guy is this best price and said yep, the guy was asking 125 for a Jack hughes yg when they are 70 on eBay. Keep your prices high that’s why you don’t move anything. I am likely done with shows for the year outside of maybe one.

This will be most show attendees over the next 12 months. Lots of people showing up, nobody actually buying w/ cash. Tons of dealers sticking to 2021 prices. Attendees wanting to sell or trade to dealers (that aren't buying) out of their peli's.

BdotHobbs · 10-23-2022, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by anusinha

The lost their money made in cards buying pictures of monkeys.

LMAO!

I know a guy who left one of the most respected positions in the music business to go work at a monkey pic company. I should check and see if he’s on a ledge somewhere

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10-22-2022, 05:39 PM	#718
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10-16-2022, 12:34 PM	#704
theshowandme Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 5,063 theshowandme nova_cards	A lot of negativity here, on Twitter, and YouTube as of late around shows. Chantilly is 5 days away and I’m excited

10-16-2022, 03:42 PM	#709
SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	Its the big shows that showed up in 2019-2022 that will be in the most trouble. Small shows will keep humming right along.

10-16-2022, 03:56 PM	#713
clocsta2323 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: D.C. Posts: 6,845	When do you guys get tired of speculating on this stuff? I mean when it's the same 10-12 people unless they are trying to write the Bill of Rights there's really nothing else to be discussed. Just hit pause for a second and wait a couple months dudes.

10-22-2022, 04:57 PM	#715
theshowandme Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 5,063 theshowandme nova_cards	Chantilly was busy today. Lots of pelican cases, kids, and dealers saying they’re not able to take a loss. Saw some booths buying a ton of inventory (some board members here). I bought/traded into 5 cards

10-23-2022, 01:33 PM	#722
mwash1983 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 6,148	Went to the Albany show today, good turnout at the show. I actually was able to sell something, I sold off my Julio Rodriguez clearly authentic auto for decent money. As far as me buying it’s the worst show I ever been to, I spent 10 today and 5 of that was to get in. I buy anything and this guy has upper deck young guns and other stuff and go to the guy is this best price and said yep, the guy was asking 125 for a Jack hughes yg when they are 70 on eBay. Keep your prices high that’s why you don’t move anything. I am likely done with shows for the year outside of maybe one.