2022 Topps Heritage High Presale....Thoughts?

[Ajax1723]

I for some reason got my hobby cases super early. I'll give a rundown of odds, notes, etc in a little bit, lots to point out.

[cj828282]

Originally Posted by Ajax1723

I for some reason got my hobby cases super early. I'll give a rundown of odds, notes, etc in a little bit, lots to point out.

That would be great. Thanks.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Ajax1723

I for some reason got my hobby cases super early. I'll give a rundown of odds, notes, etc in a little bit, lots to point out.

Looking forward to your analysis, I may decide to get a case or not based on your information.

[Ajax1723]

Alright so things of note..if anyone has any further questions, let me know.

Notable pack odds, Chrome 1:54, Image Variation 1:66, Real One Blue Ink 1:79. There are no red or green chrome this time, only base, ref, silver, black, gold, super.

There are plenty of image variations with Spring Heritage numbering (Bogaerts, Rizzo, Altuve, etc etc), with rookies sprinkled in from High Number.

Chrome condition is.....not great. Had multiple purples with roller marks, including my Pena and Torkelson, from different boxes. Centering will also be an issue, plenty that were off L/R.

I had some huge hits, im assuming luck haha, but they exist.

Silver Chrome look more dark grey this time around....just an observation.

Regular cards didnt have too many issues with condition. Had a few here or there but were fine for the most part. Centering will probably be the talk once again.

6 insert sets, all 15 cards or less. I was able to make 3 masters out of 3 cases with the 3rd set only missing 3 cards.

Card 717 Josh Harrison is misspelled "Harrision" on the front and back lol

[speedyjg13]

When does this release?

[cj828282]

In case any one was wondering, chrome was 1:39 last year and actions were 1:60. Real one blue ink autos were 1:89. With a decrease in odds for blue inks, probably looking at an increased auto checklist. 60 auto subjects last year so maybe 70-75 this year?

[Ajax1723]

Originally Posted by cj828282

In case any one was wondering, chrome was 1:39 last year and actions were 1:60. Real one blue ink autos were 1:89. With a decrease in odds for blue inks, probably looking at an increased auto checklist. 60 auto subjects last year so maybe 70-75 this year?

I figured it was about the same based on all the odds, with more Chrome going to retail.

Kinda hard to make a determination on the quality of any of the sets breaking blind with no checklist haha. All the major rookies have chromes though (Julio, Witt, Tork, Kwan, Pena). Idk if Suzuki does.

[cj828282]

I just found out that last year the base chrome checklist went from 50 subjects to 100 subjects. I am guessing it is 100 this year too. Less chances to get a Julio or Witt chrome card.

[Ajax1723]

Originally Posted by cj828282

I just found out that last year the base chrome checklist went from 50 subjects to 100 subjects. I am guessing it is 100 this year too. Less chances to get a Julio or Witt chrome card.

Sell sheet says 50. I only had 46 different in my 3 cases between purple etc. Honestly don't know who the other 50 would be.

[mikejones]

Originally Posted by Ajax1723

Alright so things of note..if anyone has any further questions, let me know.

Notable pack odds, Chrome 1:54, Image Variation 1:66, Real One Blue Ink 1:79. There are no red or green chrome this time, only base, ref, silver, black, gold, super.

There are plenty of image variations with Spring Heritage numbering (Bogaerts, Rizzo, Altuve, etc etc), with rookies sprinkled in from High Number.

Chrome condition is.....not great. Had multiple purples with roller marks, including my Pena and Torkelson, from different boxes. Centering will also be an issue, plenty that were off L/R.

I had some huge hits, im assuming luck haha, but they exist.

Silver Chrome look more dark grey this time around....just an observation.

Regular cards didnt have too many issues with condition. Had a few here or there but were fine for the most part. Centering will probably be the talk once again.

6 insert sets, all 15 cards or less. I was able to make 3 masters out of 3 cases with the 3rd set only missing 3 cards.

Card 717 Josh Harrison is misspelled "Harrision" on the front and back lol

How many autos per case? At least 4 or 5?

[cj828282]

Originally Posted by Ajax1723

Sell sheet says 50. I only had 46 different in my 3 cases between purple etc. Honestly don't know who the other 50 would be.

If the checklist went back to 50, that would be great.

[cj828282]

If there was a checklist it would address all of these questions.

[Ajax1723]

Originally Posted by mikejones

How many autos per case? At least 4 or 5?

I had 13 in 3 cases, 10 Blue, 3 Red.

[dodgerfanjohn]

Originally Posted by mikejones

How many autos per case? At least 4 or 5?

24 packs per box x 12 boxes = 288 packs

1:79 packs for ROA blue ink. Doesn’t list odds for other autos but those won’t move the needle much.

288/79 = 3.7 autos per case on average. Looks like 4 on average is a best guess.

[Ajax1723]

Originally Posted by dodgerfanjohn

24 packs per box x 12 boxes = 288 packs

1:79 packs for ROA blue ink. Doesn’t list odds for other autos but those won’t move the needle much.

288/79 = 3.7 autos per case on average. Looks like 4 on average is a best guess.

Red is 1:1041, gets harder from there, so yea, 4 on average seems right. In my experience, if you get an auto in the hot box it can reach 5, always seems like odds reset in the hot box.

[mwash1983]

Is topps still that lazy to have Olson have autos in high number in an A’s uni.

[hermanotarjeta]

Were any of the autographs redemptions?

[Ajax1723]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Were any of the autographs redemptions?

I did not have any redemptions, but I also did not hit any of the big rookies.

[Oachs83]

Saturday morning my Target had about 12 blasters on the shelf so I grabbed three. Went back today and grabbed a couple more and in this small sample size the correlation seems a bit bunched. I got triplicates of about 5 or 6 players. The two blasters that had base Julio were almost identical as far as most of my cards were the exact same in the whole blaster. The first Julio blaster had a chrome /673 and the other had a chrome to /373. Those also were the only “hits” out of the 5 blasters. I checked the box and everything else was base or sp if you can even call them a sp in this release?

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Ajax1723

I did not have any redemptions, but I also did not hit any of the big rookies.

Thanks for the info - really appreciate it!

[MSU Bulldogs]

Be nice to see a check list.

[abbeyroadwalker]

Originally Posted by MSU Bulldogs

Be nice to see a check list.

Yes, it would. Trey must not be paying his monthly bill to Topps on time.

[BigSeph]

People breaking personal cases, blasters in stores, no checklist to be found.

Weird.

[kyle1707]

Originally Posted by BigSeph

People breaking personal cases, blasters in stores, no checklist to be found.

Weird.

No clue what they are doing ?

I have always felt they don’t really care

But last year or 2. I really believe that

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Ajax1723

Alright so things of note..if anyone has any further questions, let me know.

Notable pack odds, Chrome 1:54, Image Variation 1:66, Real One Blue Ink 1:79. There are no red or green chrome this time, only base, ref, silver, black, gold, super.

There are plenty of image variations with Spring Heritage numbering (Bogaerts, Rizzo, Altuve, etc etc), with rookies sprinkled in from High Number.

Chrome condition is.....not great. Had multiple purples with roller marks, including my Pena and Torkelson, from different boxes. Centering will also be an issue, plenty that were off L/R.

I had some huge hits, im assuming luck haha, but they exist.

Silver Chrome look more dark grey this time around....just an observation.

Regular cards didnt have too many issues with condition. Had a few here or there but were fine for the most part. Centering will probably be the talk once again.

6 insert sets, all 15 cards or less. I was able to make 3 masters out of 3 cases with the 3rd set only missing 3 cards.

Card 717 Josh Harrison is misspelled "Harrision" on the front and back lol

Which box toppers did you pull?