Official 2022 Minnesota Vikings thread

[packman80]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Can’t wait for inevitable 10-7 season with WC week trouncing next season.

Have a gut feeling a 10 win team will win the north next season but won't be MN or GB. I think the Lions could be that 10 win team next year and win the divison. MN over achived this year and can't see them winning every 1 score game like they did this year and will be a 8-9 win team and same with GB they are what we saw this year and will be a 8-9 win team. Bears are the wild card. They have $120 million in cap space to go out and sign guys and if draft wisley could add couple impact players.

[shaner1]

Justin Jefferson will need an extension of $30 million a year this offseason.

Many guys listed above in the thread will be gone. The only one I'd keep is O'Neill.

Thielen, Dalvin, Harrison Smith, Zadarius, Kendricks....all gone.

What about Cousins? They'll need to extend him AGAIN to restructure his deal....at about $35-40 Million per year.

That's roughly $70 million invested per year in Kirk and JJ.

O-line and Defense are not getting any better next year - unless it's through the draft.

[Chaddie84]

Originally Posted by packman80

Have a gut feeling a 10 win team will win the north next season but won't be MN or GB. I think the Lions could be that 10 win team next year and win the divison. MN over achived this year and can't see them winning every 1 score game like they did this year and will be a 8-9 win team and same with GB they are what we saw this year and will be a 8-9 win team. Bears are the wild card. They have $120 million in cap space to go out and sign guys and if draft wisley could add couple impact players.

I see the NFC North getting better across the board.

Vikings with a second year under KOC and new GM. Defense can only improve. The record may not look as good, but I think they will be a better team overall.

Lions looking really good heading into the end of the season. Good momentum.

Chicago can only improve, plus the cap space like you mentioned.

Green Bay is interesting. If Rodgers is back, I see him continuing to gel with his young WRs. I look forward to seeing what a full healthy season (with a full offseason) from Watson looks like. I'm not sure what things will look like with Love at the helm.

Offseason is going to really interesting.

[Chaddie84]

Originally Posted by shaner1

Justin Jefferson will need an extension of $30 million a year this offseason.

Many guys listed above in the thread will be gone. The only one I'd keep is O'Neill.

Thielen, Dalvin, Harrison Smith, Zadarius, Kendricks....all gone.

What about Cousins? They'll need to extend him AGAIN to restructure his deal....at about $35-40 Million per year.

That's roughly $70 million invested per year in Kirk and JJ.

O-line and Defense are not getting any better next year - unless it's through the draft.

Everyone you listed are still under contract for 2023. Only Thielen, Smith and Kendricks are ones that give cap space if you cut them. Not sure if I'd cut any of them.

[ninjabum87]

Originally Posted by Mazman2727

Try being a 41 year Charger fan!!!! That will make you rethink living life. Thats a joke all.

Vikings have been the winningest team to not win a ring for a hot minute now. At least with Chargers or Browns fans they never fly high for too long so they don't expect greatness.

Vikings fans have Packer fan expectations without anything to show for it, though the longer you are a fan the more you turn into a pessimistic extremely superstitious freakazoid at the slightest change of fortunes. Up by 20+ points in the 4th and turnover the ball = "ooookay heres where they start to lose the game".

This year was especially cruel for the fanbase because the dice happened to roll their way every single time in close games so people started to lose that pessimistic insulation that encased their souls and began to feel confident.

I have been slowly separating myself from this team year after year. I think 2017 was when I decided it was too unhealthy for me to remain so attached to them. Been hooked since the Warren Moon/Brad Johnson days but they tend to beat you down over the years. I'm sure I'll regret not being so invested if/when they finally make it happen, but it's worth not yo-yoing in and out of depression and rage on a week to week basis for half of the year.

[shaner1]

Originally Posted by Chaddie84

Everyone you listed are still under contract for 2023. Only Thielen, Smith and Kendricks are ones that give cap space if you cut them. Not sure if I'd cut any of them.

Yes, but the Vikes are already $8 million OVER the cap - not even including the upcoming draft picks nor the JJ extension. Vikings may be $30 million over the cap after those signings.

You'll have to cut players. Or re-structure all of their contracts.

[Chaddie84]

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

Vikings have been the winningest team to not win a ring for a hot minute now. At least with Chargers or Browns fans they never fly high for too long so they don't expect greatness.

Vikings fans have Packer fan expectations without anything to show for it, though the longer you are a fan the more you turn into a pessimistic extremely superstitious freakazoid at the slightest change of fortunes. Up by 20+ points in the 4th and turnover the ball = "ooookay heres where they start to lose the game".

This year was especially cruel for the fanbase because the dice happened to roll their way every single time in close games so people started to lose that pessimistic insulation that encased their souls and began to feel confident.

I have been slowly separating myself from this team year after year. I think 2017 was when I decided it was too unhealthy for me to remain so attached to them. Been hooked since the Warren Moon/Brad Johnson days but they tend to beat you down over the years. I'm sure I'll regret not being so invested if/when they finally make it happen, but it's worth not yo-yoing in and out of depression and rage on a week to week basis for half of the year.

I first learned of disappointment at the end of the '98 season, but the end to the '09 season is what truly broke my spirit. I literally took Vikings stuff off my wall and put into storage or sold it because I couldn't look at it anymore. I've been lukewarm at best since then. 2017 was "meh" for me already because of whole Wentz injury in Philly. I forget which year, but the Blair Walsh wide-left chip-shot had me laughing. Last night was just classic Vikings, and I was over it after about 5 minutes (zero expectations).

Minnesota is cursed with 4 major professional sports teams in the Twin Cities and not a single championship since 1991. That's a 100+ combined season drought. Take out the Twins' runs in '87 and '91 and we're going back to the Lakers of the 1950s, if that counts.

Franchises that are/were around in my lifetime:

• Twins - 2 championships in 62 seasons (not bad)
• Vikings - 0 championships in 62 seasons
• North Stars/Wild - 0 championships in 48 seasons
• TWolves - 0 championships in 30 seasons

After '09, I've shifted a lot of my attention to the college football, and where I went to school (NDSU), because it is actually fun to watch a team win it all from time-to-time, albeit not at the FBS level, and it has brought me a ton of joy despite the transfer pool stuff as of late. Watching them get their butts whooped in person at the natty a weekend ago was 10x more painful than yesterday's game.

[Chaddie84]

Originally Posted by shaner1

Yes, but the Vikes are already $8 million OVER the cap - not even including the upcoming draft picks nor the JJ extension. Vikings may be $30 million over the cap after those signings.

You'll have to cut players. Or re-structure all of their contracts.

I don't disagree with that point, but they are under contract. It's a lot easier to cut and save than re-sign. If it were the latter, I doubt we see any of them left (except maybe Cousins).

I see a couple moves that would immediately help with cap space especially with some of the aging defensive players under bigger contracts. I'm no cap guru, but it would be nice to structure Jefferson's new contact to kick the can down the road a bit in terms of cap hit.

[ninjabum87]

Originally Posted by Chaddie84

I first learned of disappointment at the end of the '98 season, but the end to the '09 season is what truly broke my spirit. I literally took Vikings stuff off my wall and put into storage or sold it because I couldn't look at it anymore. I've been lukewarm at best since then. 2017 was "meh" for me already because of whole Wentz injury in Philly. I forget which year, but the Blair Walsh wide-left chip-shot had me laughing. Last night was just classic Vikings, and I was over it after about 5 minutes (zero expectations).

Minnesota is cursed with 4 major professional sports teams in the Twin Cities and not a single championship since 1991. That's a 100+ combined season drought. Take out the Twins' runs in '87 and '91 and we're going back to the Lakers of the 1950s, if that counts.

Franchises that are/were around in my lifetime:

• Twins - 2 championships in 62 seasons (not bad)
• Vikings - 0 championships in 62 seasons
• North Stars/Wild - 0 championships in 48 seasons
• TWolves - 0 championships in 30 seasons

After '09, I've shifted a lot of my attention to the college football, and where I went to school (NDSU), because it is actually fun to watch a team win it all from time-to-time, albeit not at the FBS level, and it has brought me a ton of joy despite the transfer pool stuff as of late. Watching them get their butts whooped in person at the natty a weekend ago was 10x more painful than yesterday's game.

Yeah, I was in my early 20s and pretty pissed off for 2009, so I remember going off the deep end and being really nasty towards Saints fans. Not something I'm proud of looking back. 2017 I actually immediately ordered the Star Tribune with the miracle on the front page. By the time it got to me the Philly game already happened so it still sits somewhere in a closet in its sealed bubble mailer, forever unopened. .001% chance that team could beat Philly that year anyway, but was worth a try.

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by Chaddie84

Franchises that are/were around in my lifetime:

• Twins - 2 championships in 62 seasons (not bad)
• Vikings - 0 championships in 62 seasons
• North Stars/Wild - 0 championships in 48 seasons
• TWolves - 0 championships in 30 seasons

Those Twins teams played in an era of 26 teams or less. That record is actually below par. They could never get past the Yankees in the 2000 decade.

The Vikings are flat out choke artists. That's why they're purple. Unlike the Twins and Wolves, at least they are competitive most years. A bit of irony when former Vikings QBs Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson faced each other in Super Bowl XXXVII. That might be the only way a Vikings QB gets a ring.

The Stars go to Dallas and snag a up a few years later. Minnesota had it's chance in the early 90s up three games to one on Pittsburgh.

The NBA is just weird in how dynasty teams come and go every decade largely based on who has the biggest star. Minnesota will likely always be an also-ran unless they get a Curry type player with solid support.

Might as well throw the Gophers, sans hockey, in there as well and even the hockey team has not won the trophy in 20 years.

You mentioned NDSU just across the border, and they have had a hell of a run, perhaps to the point of becoming unsatisfying (for lack of better word). I get more satisfaction seeing them compete against the bigger names like Arizona this past season.

[byronscott4ever]

Originally Posted by f2tornado

Those Twins teams played in an era of 26 teams or less. That record is actually below par. They could never get past the Yankees in the 2000 decade.

The Vikings are flat out choke artists. That's why they're purple. Unlike the Twins and Wolves, at least they are competitive most years. A bit of irony when former Vikings QBs Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson faced each other in Super Bowl XXXVII. That might be the only way a Vikings QB gets a ring.

The Stars go to Dallas and snag a up a few years later. Minnesota had it's chance in the early 90s up three games to one on Pittsburgh.

The NBA is just weird in how dynasty teams come and go every decade largely based on who has the biggest star. Minnesota will likely always be an also-ran unless they get a Curry type player with solid support.

Might as well throw the Gophers, sans hockey, in there as well and even the hockey team has not won the trophy in 20 years.

You mentioned NDSU just across the border, and they have had a hell of a run, perhaps to the point of becoming unsatisfying (for lack of better word). I get more satisfaction seeing them compete against the bigger names like Arizona this past season.

North Stars were up in 91 at 1-0 and 2-1 before losing last three

[tjenkins]

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

This year was especially cruel for the fanbase because the dice happened to roll their way every single time in close games so people started to lose that pessimistic insulation that encased their souls and began to feel confident.

I have been slowly separating myself from this team year after year. I think 2017 was when I decided it was too unhealthy for me to remain so attached to them. Been hooked since the Warren Moon/Brad Johnson days but they tend to beat you down over the years. I'm sure I'll regret not being so invested if/when they finally make it happen, but it's worth not yo-yoing in and out of depression and rage on a week to week basis for half of the year.

I have endured the loss of 4 Superbowls (I vaguely remember the KC game since I was 6), the Drew Pearson offensive pass interference, the Gary Anderson (only) miss, the Blair Walsh miss, The Brett Favre beating and was at the Giants loss Sunday (season ticket holder) and everything in between but I will always be a Vikings fan. You see that is just part of the deal, the cross we bear so to speak. I am not, nor will ever be a fair weather fan. I look at it like raising kids, never give up. Being from South Dakota they are my team. I don't go all the way across the country to pick a Superbowl winning team because its convenient, they are my home team and I will forever be loyal. Sure, times get tough so what....it won't stop me. I will never separate myself from my team. I will go to all home games next year, scream my fool head off and have a headache for two days afterwards and will enjoy every second of it, win, lose or tie. I coached high school football for 32 years and you just learn to take the good with the bad and work hard to try and get the best results. After all as a fan all we are doing is supporting, it not like we actually truly control what happens in the offices and on the field. SKOL VIKES!!!

[tjenkins]

I'm also an SDSU Jackrabbits fan..oops wrong thread!

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

Vikings have been the winningest team to not win a ring for a hot minute now. At least with Chargers or Browns fans they never fly high for too long so they don't expect greatness.

Vikings fans have Packer fan expectations without anything to show for it, though the longer you are a fan the more you turn into a pessimistic extremely superstitious freakazoid at the slightest change of fortunes. Up by 20+ points in the 4th and turnover the ball = "ooookay heres where they start to lose the game".

This year was especially cruel for the fanbase because the dice happened to roll their way every single time in close games so people started to lose that pessimistic insulation that encased their souls and began to feel confident.

I have been slowly separating myself from this team year after year. I think 2017 was when I decided it was too unhealthy for me to remain so attached to them. Been hooked since the Warren Moon/Brad Johnson days but they tend to beat you down over the years. I'm sure I'll regret not being so invested if/when they finally make it happen, but it's worth not yo-yoing in and out of depression and rage on a week to week basis for half of the year.

I feel like I wrote this.

[ninjabum87]

Originally Posted by tjenkins

I have endured the loss of 4 Superbowls (I vaguely remember the KC game since I was 6), the Drew Pearson offensive pass interference, the Gary Anderson (only) miss, the Blair Walsh miss, The Brett Favre beating and was at the Giants loss Sunday (season ticket holder) and everything in between but I will always be a Vikings fan. You see that is just part of the deal, the cross we bear so to speak. I am not, nor will ever be a fair weather fan. I look at it like raising kids, never give up. Being from South Dakota they are my team. I don't go all the way across the country to pick a Superbowl winning team because its convenient, they are my home team and I will forever be loyal. Sure, times get tough so what....it won't stop me. I will never separate myself from my team. I will go to all home games next year, scream my fool head off and have a headache for two days afterwards and will enjoy every second of it, win, lose or tie. I coached high school football for 32 years and you just learn to take the good with the bad and work hard to try and get the best results. After all as a fan all we are doing is supporting, it not like we actually truly control what happens in the offices and on the field. SKOL VIKES!!!

Idk that you could really attach a fair weather label to anyone who stans for this team 10+ years. Anybody who stuck around for the Ponder/Cassel/Freeman roller coaster year, Teddy almost having his leg amputated, AD whipping his toddler's balls, party boat, etc has probably earned the right to walk into the sunset with their head held high and no feelings of shame. Rooting for this team is a health risk at this point lol.

[Chaddie84]

Originally Posted by f2tornado

Those Twins teams played in an era of 26 teams or less. That record is actually below par. They could never get past the Yankees in the 2000 decade.

The Vikings are flat out choke artists. That's why they're purple. Unlike the Twins and Wolves, at least they are competitive most years. A bit of irony when former Vikings QBs Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson faced each other in Super Bowl XXXVII. That might be the only way a Vikings QB gets a ring.

The Stars go to Dallas and snag a up a few years later. Minnesota had it's chance in the early 90s up three games to one on Pittsburgh.

The NBA is just weird in how dynasty teams come and go every decade largely based on who has the biggest star. Minnesota will likely always be an also-ran unless they get a Curry type player with solid support.

Might as well throw the Gophers, sans hockey, in there as well and even the hockey team has not won the trophy in 20 years.

You mentioned NDSU just across the border, and they have had a hell of a run, perhaps to the point of becoming unsatisfying (for lack of better word). I get more satisfaction seeing them compete against the bigger names like Arizona this past season.

Great points. Agree 100%

NDSU has hit a level of fatigue, which is crazy to think about. Lots of fans are wanting them to "move up", but that requires more than on-field play to happen (a LONG list of things). For SDSU, the team, the fans, the coaches just seemed hungrier this year. The energy from the opposing team/fanbase in Frisco was palpable.

Nowadays, in the NFL at least, I get more enjoyment cheering for players moreso than teams. It does get painful seeing so many former Vikings players and coaches have great success elsewhere. Amazing how many former coordinators from the Vikings' in the 90s/00s went on to win SBs as head coaches - Dungy, Billick, Tomlin are the 3 that immediately come to mind. It's almost like they had to leave to succeed.

It's also a borderline crime that both Moss and AP, each generational talents at their positions, never earned a ring. I fear the same for JJ.

[hairysasquatch]

Ed Donatell canned

[tjenkins]

Originally Posted by Chaddie84

Great points. Agree 100%

NDSU has hit a level of fatigue, which is crazy to think about. Lots of fans are wanting them to "move up", but that requires more than on-field play to happen (a LONG list of things). For SDSU, the team, the fans, the coaches just seemed hungrier this year. The energy from the opposing team/fanbase in Frisco was palpable.

Nowadays, in the NFL at least, I get more enjoyment cheering for players moreso than teams. It does get painful seeing so many former Vikings players and coaches have great success elsewhere. Amazing how many former coordinators from the Vikings' in the 90s/00s went on to win SBs as head coaches - Dungy, Billick, Tomlin are the 3 that immediately come to mind. It's almost like they had to leave to succeed.

It's also a borderline crime that both Moss and AP, each generational talents at their positions, never earned a ring. I fear the same for JJ.

I always kinda cheered for the Bison when they weren't playing the Jackrabbits or the Jackrabbits got beat out. Our coach, John Stiegelmeier, was super hungry since he has never won one and has been the coach for SDSU for 26 years. So much so he retired today and the Defensive Coach is taking over, Jimmy Rodgers. Ironic since Coach Stig was the D Coordinator when he took over for Mike Daly. It will be fun to see how things go moving forward. My youngest son was an SDSU grad but he was a thrower (shot put, discus, hammer) and not football. He was pretty descent though, qualified for regional nationals and is 2nd on the SDSU all time shot put record list. The SDSU vs. NDSU has turned into a great rivalry. I had heard the SDSU fans were super at Frisco.

I hope I live long enough to see the Vikes win a Superbowl. Not likely though but I'll keep cheering and hoping. I don't feel as bad for Moss and AP as I do for the Purple People Eaters (Eller, Marshall, Page and Larsen), Tarkenton and Krause. Those guys losing 4 Superbowls is tough.

[oldgoldy97]

Ding dong the witch is dead.