Binder question

[Chaotic30]

I wasn't sure which section to post this, so if needs to be moved, please do so. Also, apparently I like commas. Anyway, I recently purchased some large sets and want to put them in a binder for easy viewing. The standard binder I bought from wal mart isn't big enough to hold all 792 cards. (standard 9 per page) Any suggestions on a decent bigger binder that I can use to fit all the cards? Been searching ebay and I can't tell if the 3 inch binders are big enough or need to go bigger? Any insight is appreciated.

[87toppsproject]

I have not yet purchased these, but I have seen them referenced a few times in similar posts to yours.

https://www.lighthouse.us/vario-g-pa...mechanism.html

[DynaEtch]

What size was the Walmart binder that didnt fit it? A normal Ultra Pro or BCW 3in should be just big enough, but the pages will probably fill it to the very top, be nearly overflowing the binder. Those are the go-to for baseball sets. They are straight D-rings. A 3in slant D-ring office binder should fit it ok Im pretty sure.

Im a binder person myself- thankfully in the genre I collect, nonsports, sets are much smaller, usually 100-200 cards, so the binders can be small 1 inchers. One problem with storing several baseball sets is they are so bulky in heavy binders and take up space. Some people might even split the set into two smaller binders. Another issue is, especially with junk era sets, the binder/pages can cost more than the set within. But if viewability is important to you, then agreed binder is about the best option.

[Chaotic30]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

What size was the Walmart binder that didnt fit it? A normal Ultra Pro or BCW 3in should be just big enough, but the pages will probably fill it to the very top, be nearly overflowing the binder. Those are the go-to for baseball sets. They are straight D-rings. A 3in slant D-ring office binder should fit it ok Im pretty sure.

Im a binder person myself- thankfully in the genre I collect, nonsports, sets are much smaller, usually 100-200 cards, so the binders can be small 1 inchers. One problem with storing several baseball sets is they are so bulky in heavy binders and take up space. Some people might even split the set into two smaller binders. Another issue is, especially with junk era sets, the binder/pages can cost more than the set within. But if viewability is important to you, then agreed binder is about the best option.

It was the ultra pro they sell for 25 bucks or so. I put the first 50 pages in and it doesn't have a ton of room left. You may be right that it would be a tight fit in the end but I worry about the crimping of the first and last pages. I'm not worried if the pages are worth more then the sets this is strictly so I can look at them. I have shelving in my card room for binders so not too worried about space. Although I am in the market for some more shelves since I am slowly filling it up. Appreciate the response.

[Chaotic30]

Originally Posted by 87toppsproject

I have not yet purchased these, but I have seen them referenced a few times in similar posts to yours.

https://www.lighthouse.us/vario-g-pa...mechanism.html

Those do look fancy, I will look into them. Thanks

[Skipscards]

These are my favorite. Not too expensive, come in three colors, and look nice:
https://www.bcwsupplies.com/3-inch-a...all-card-black

[base set]

Start thinking about this, maybe with some pages of cards already in a binder: are you really going to read the backs of the cards? Are you going to do that - 5 years from now?

If you don’t just love reading card backs on binder pages, consider putting 18 cards on each page.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Chaotic30

It was the ultra pro they sell for 25 bucks or so. I put the first 50 pages in and it doesn't have a ton of room left. You may be right that it would be a tight fit in the end but I worry about the crimping of the first and last pages. I'm not worried if the pages are worth more then the sets this is strictly so I can look at them. I have shelving in my card room for binders so not too worried about space. Although I am in the market for some more shelves since I am slowly filling it up. Appreciate the response.

Yea one problem is the new Ultra Pro 3in binders do seem just slightly smaller than the old baseball card binders back in the day (80s to 90s). It would probably do fine for older Topps 726-card sets, and easily hold newer Topps 660 or 700 card sets, but you're right that 792 is probably just a bit too much and would cause it to overflow.

A 3in slant D-ring binder would probably hold it- basically a 3" office binder that you find at walmart etc. I dont have one at the moment to test it with, but here is a thread where I found that 1,143 cards fit in a 4" slant D-ring binder (I do not recommend getting a 4" binder, they are huge and bulky).

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1538462

Doing the math, a 3 inch slant D-ring should in theory hold 1,143*(3/4) = about 850 cards, so should fit a 792 card set ok. One thing you can do with these kind of binders also is add a custom cover in the slot on top, which you cant do with Ultra Pro type binders. The above 4" binder was an Avery brand. I actually recommend the generic Walmart office binder over it for card storage (I believe the name is Pen Gear)- with Avery binders I find the pages get caught on the rings often, but they almost never do with Pen Gear binders- one example of the generic being better imo. Anyway, maybe someone else has other ideas, if office binders arent your thing.

Edit: thinking about this more, office binders work great for the kind of sets I collect (smaller), but they are somewhat light weight and might not be the greatest for these heavy 792 card baseball sets. Might help to have a more sturdy binder.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Was checking these out last week:

https://www.archivalmethods.com/prod...-slip-case-set

High-end. Slip cases are great.

[UCCF]

Originally Posted by Chaotic30

Those do look fancy, I will look into them. Thanks

I have some of these. I don't think they'll hold 792 cards if you're looking to put the whole set into one binder. You could probably split a set between 2 of these.

[rega311]

[DioBrando]

Originally Posted by rega311

Very cool!

[Chaotic30]

Lots of good responses. Appreciate the advice. The display above is quite nice. My current binders are all different kinds from when I was a kid til now. Also, its not exactly organized. I tend to put random insert sets that I like in them.

Edit: I ended up looking through BCW website and the deal on their binders is the best I've seen. Bought a bunch of other supplies I needed to get free shipping at 100 dollars.

One more question -- Toploader binders, any suggestions on good ones. I saw some on ebay that aren't crazy priced (40ish a piece) but no clue if they are any good. I have stacks of toploaders I'm trying to get off my table and make it easier to look at.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by Chaotic30

Lots of good responses. Appreciate the advice. The display above is quite nice. My current binders are all different kinds from when I was a kid til now. Also, its not exactly organized. I tend to put random insert sets that I like in them.

Edit: I ended up looking through BCW website and the deal on their binders is the best I've seen. Bought a bunch of other supplies I needed to get free shipping at 100 dollars.

One more question -- Toploader binders, any suggestions on good ones. I saw some on ebay that aren't crazy priced (40ish a piece) but no clue if they are any good. I have stacks of toploaders I'm trying to get off my table and make it easier to look at.

Can't go wrong there. Like I said, they display nice, will hold a 792 Card set, and are reasonably priced.

[DynaEtch]

There is a standard ‘top loader binder’ that has pages that fit 6 toploaders, I have a couple, and they seem to be decently popular





The only issue I have with them is if I’m not mistaken, the pages seem to be vinyl (pvc), which anyone who has opened an old binder with vintage pages might know all too well. However it shouldn’t matter since the card is in a toploader.

Something else as an option, ultra pro has 4 pocket pages made just for toploaders that you can fit into any regular binder.






The only downside is it only holds 4 per page so the pages stack up pretty fast. What I like about them is PVC/acid free. I typically use these for my toploaders. It's also a signifcantly cheaper solution compared to a specially made toploader binder.

[Thetruthisout]

Originally Posted by rega311

Yes, very cool.

Except for a few of my Mickey Mantle cards, all of my 50's, 60's and 70's cards are in binders.

[CicadaMound]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

The only issue I have with them is if I’m not mistaken, the pages seem to be vinyl (pvc), which anyone who has opened an old binder with vintage pages might know all too well. However it shouldn’t matter since the card is in a toploader.

Toploaders themselves are PVC too FYI. That's why it's important to sleeve anything you put in one, they degrade and acid gets on your card.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by CicadaMound

Toploaders themselves are PVC too FYI. That's why it's important to sleeve anything you put in one, they degrade and acid gets on your card.

Yea this is true. So in theory it shouldnt matter storing a PVC toploader in PVC pages. As long as card is in an acid free sleeve.

It's a certain aroma the pvc pages give off...if you opened an old vintage binder, that's what it smells like to me.

[Jolten Joe]

Just pickup a 4" or 6" binder from Staples and call it a day

[ElGuapo34]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

These are my favorite. Not too expensive, come in three colors, and look nice:
https://www.bcwsupplies.com/3-inch-a...all-card-black

I’ll second this. Solid quality and very good pricing. Even cheaper if you buy in bulk.

[soey10]

As a binder guy myself I will tell you that it might be a tight fit at the beginning when you first put all of your cards in, but if you store the binder flat, over time the weight of the cards and pages flatten everything out sot it should be a better fit after a while.


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[nevermore]

The Lighthouse albums look sharp! I currently have Ultra Pro Topps logo binders with 9-pocket pages for my Yankees Topps run, 1952-now.

I am tempted to re-arrange and keep one binder for each decade. Switch my 50s and 60s into 4-pocket toploader pages. I don't recall seeing those 5 years ago.

[tribefan26]

Originally Posted by Chaotic30

Those do look fancy, I will look into them. Thanks

I use these for a couple of my bigger more important sets - they are really nice:

https://www.archivalmethods.com/prod...-slip-case-set

I haven't bought them in a couple of years, they've gone up in price. There are frequently coupon codes out there.

they are nice enough that I have displayed them in living room book cases.

[Mozzie22]

Originally Posted by 87toppsproject

I have not yet purchased these, but I have seen them referenced a few times in similar posts to yours.

https://www.lighthouse.us/vario-g-pa...mechanism.html

I use the Lighthouse binders and they are very nice. The slip cases make all the difference when it comes to binders. They are a more expensive, but they just look really professional. It may sound odd, but another reason I use them is because they look more like a photo album and may be overlooked by a thief in a worst-case scenario.