Jordan Walker Breaks Camp With the Cardinals - Page 3

zworykin · 03-26-2023, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

thing is, we dont know how far along they are in the S2 process.

For reference last year there were already printed sheets of Update (specifically, base parallels - therefore the lineup for the base cards must have already been locked down) by July 7, per the dates on the leaked sheets we saw. Possibly other sheets were printed even earlier, but let's just stick to that date. That product released October 28. That's 113 days. (I suppose it's also possible the printed dates there were related to the files, not the date they were printed - but I believe they leaked around the end of July, so at most we're talking ~3 weeks difference.)

Series 2 released June 10. Working backwards from June 10, on the same time frame, you'd have printed sheets already by February 17, and possibly earlier. (FWIW, 2021 was June 12, 2020 was June 26 (but COVID...), 2019 was June 12, 2018 was June 13. So I'd say that June 10 (or so) is a pretty safe target date.)

Now, do we know that they actually need that much lead time between printed sheets and release date? No. But we don't have other data to work with, so it's better than nothing.

JRX · 03-26-2023, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by boxbuster7

I actually think the opposite may be true. Less pressure on Jordan Walker to be a star may make him comfortable from day 1.

He might play better because he has less pressure, but Julio has the clearer path to being the bigger star / face of his franchise if that makes sense.

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boxbuster7 · 03-26-2023, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

He might play better because he has less pressure, but Julio has the clearer path to being the bigger star / face of his franchise if that makes sense.

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yeah it does...but I think inherently there is more pressure on julio to be the guy.

And If walker starts out real hot and we don't see any rookie cards of him till mid season...his early stuff is going to get real hot.

Stech36 · 03-26-2023, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

He might play better because he has less pressure, but Julio has the clearer path to being the bigger star / face of his franchise if that makes sense.

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I’d say Walker can take all the hobby love away from Arenado and Goldschmidt.

Homegrown superstar can trump those guys.

Flamethrower · 03-27-2023, 12:09 AM

Massive.

vwnut13 · 03-27-2023, 01:16 AM

What if Walker goes full Adell?

awz50 · 03-27-2023, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by vwnut13

What if Walker goes full Adell?

Then he will be like many other prospects

Stech36 · 03-27-2023, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by vwnut13

What if Walker goes full Adell?

Not likely he goes full Adell. Strikeout rate isn’t close to that level.

But he could definitely struggle. I don’t think he’s one of the cardinals top three outfielders today. I see a Bobby Witt Jr. type year for him, with a slightly better obp

I think he’ll need a few months and need to make adjustments, but the future is bright.

123precision · 03-27-2023, 08:04 AM

I saw him play AA ball. His biomechanics scare me. He looks injury prone.

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SupermanBrandon · 03-27-2023, 08:07 AM

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I saw him play AA ball. His biomechanics scare me. He looks injury prone.

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Dang boys, we have a real life scientist on the board

Boo · 03-27-2023, 08:18 AM

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I saw him play AA ball. His biomechanics scare me. He looks injury prone.

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Is it like Mahomes' bad throwing shoulder?

123precision · 03-27-2023, 05:06 PM

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Dang boys, we have a real life scientist on the board

Correct

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123precision · 03-27-2023, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo

Is it like Mahomes' bad throwing shoulder?

Knees

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WizardofOz1982 · 03-27-2023, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 123precision

I saw him play AA ball. His biomechanics scare me. He looks injury prone.

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He's 6'6" and still growing. Saying he'll have knee problems at some point in his life is like saying you'll get wet if you fall out of a boat into a lake.

rman112 · 03-27-2023, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WizardofOz1982

He's 6'6" and still growing. Saying he'll have knee problems at some point in his life is like saying you'll get wet if you fall out of a boat into a lake.

Kid's legit. St. Louis is going to LOVE him.

rysportguy · 03-27-2023, 07:43 PM

I feel like a fair comparable ceiling for Walker is basically Aaron Judge if he had been called up at age 20.

JRX · 03-27-2023, 07:52 PM

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I feel like a fair comparable ceiling for Walker is basically Aaron Judge if he had been called up at age 20.

So 62hr or bust?

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HeritageKing · 03-27-2023, 07:55 PM

What about Nolan Gorman? Looks legit too.

Stech36 · 03-27-2023, 08:23 PM

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What about Nolan Gorman? Looks legit too.

He looked good, but 19 strikeouts in 59 plate appearances is scary.

Small sample size… but not that small.

Zauron · 03-27-2023, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by boxbuster7

yeah it does...but I think inherently there is more pressure on julio to be the guy.

And If walker starts out real hot and we don't see any rookie cards of him till mid season...his early stuff is going to get real hot.

The earliest you see a rookie card of him is Series 2, and that's a maybe.

2019 Tatis was in series 2, but Vlad Jr was a SP and 2020 Robert was in it.

Then last year, Julio was just a SP despite being on the club to start the year.

rman112 · 03-30-2023, 08:04 PM

How impressive is this kid?

HYPTZEMDSTRPLES · 03-31-2023, 01:43 AM

I thought he would start out at Memphis. But I'm excited what the future might hold.

Archangel1775 · 03-31-2023, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 123precision

I saw him play AA ball. His biomechanics scare me. He looks injury prone.

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Dang boys, we have a real life scientist on the board

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Is it like Mahomes' bad throwing shoulder?

WizardofOz1982 · 03-31-2023, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Stech36

He looked good, but 19 strikeouts in 59 plate appearances is scary.

Small sample size… but not that small.

He was still on base in 3 of 5 plate appearances. As long as the zone control holds up, and given his track record it should, then the Ks aren't such a big issue. Obviously he'd be better if he can get them back down into the low to mid 20s.

rman112 · 03-31-2023, 10:30 AM

So who's got a good physical comparison - just on straight tools? Winfield?

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