Giannis "The Greak Freak" Antetokounmpo Thread - Page 295

yiguiri2002 · 04-27-2023, 11:21 AM

Offseason + 1st round exit? Of course they are gonna fall.

I still think that even with an expected 20% additional drop it's worth to hold right now. This was a perfect storm for a price drop: a superstar going crazy, whole team abnormally shooting great, Giannis missing 2 games (almost 3).

Resign BroLo, use the MLE and BAE and go for it again. And start drafting better, last legit rotation player they drafted was DDV.

Ferg1945 · 04-27-2023, 11:42 AM

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I feel like there are a lot of people that don't truly understand Giannis. I can't see him demanding a trade or wanting to trade anyone like Jrue or Khris. He's going to stay loyal to the Bucks and to the teammates he's had thus far and had success with, almost to a fault (like KG in Minny).

That being said, I'd love it if the Bucks figured out a way to pair Dame with Giannis as that sounds like a deadly duo.

Middleton has the player option. If he says no that could start the dominoes. He looks elsewhere... Lopez looks elsewhere... Bucks could look completely different next season.

NeedChapmans · 04-27-2023, 12:10 PM

I don't see what this board sees in Giannis regarding the "kind of player" he is. This is a man who considered retirement not too long ago, had to take a mental sabbatical during this season because he couldn't hit a FT and now there is a legit question as to whether or not he was able to suit up the previous games.

From a mental POV, I don't believe him to be as strong as some make him out to be.

oshmeehan · 04-27-2023, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I don't see what this board sees in Giannis regarding the "kind of player" he is. This is a man who considered retirement not too long ago, had to take a mental sabbatical during this season because he couldn't hit a FT and now there is a legit question as to whether or not he was able to suit up the previous games.

From a mental POV, I don't believe him to be as strong as some make him out to be.

What in the??? There was no such time off because he wasn't hitting free throws. There was no point in the season where he was shooting horribly from the line for games and games in a row and then he took off multiple games. Sick of the lies and misinformation that people try to spread at times.

NeedChapmans · 04-27-2023, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by oshmeehan

What in the??? There was no such time off because he wasn't hitting free throws. There was no point in the season where he was shooting horribly from the line for games and games in a row and then he took off multiple games. Sick of the lies and misinformation that people try to spread at times.

Not lies, not misinformation. Mid-January, after the Bucks got blown out at home by Charlotte, Giannis then went on to have two more horrible games vs. NYK and ATL, at which point he took 10 days off to get his head back in the game.

Talked about it in the MVP thread at the time.

oshmeehan · 04-27-2023, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Not lies, not misinformation. Mid-January, after the Bucks got blown out at home by Charlotte, Giannis then went on to have two more horrible games vs. NYK and ATL, at which point he took 10 days off to get his head back in the game.

Talked about it in the MVP thread at the time.

He didn't sit out because of his free throw shooting. That is lies. He has sat out games because of knee soreness and because of load management at times, just like every team does with its players. He missed a game a week before Christmas with it and on New Years Day as well.

And get out of here with he's not mentally tough because he considered retirement. Probably quite the contrary actually.

NeedChapmans · 04-27-2023, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oshmeehan

He didn't sit out because of his free throw shooting. That is lies. He has sat out games because of knee soreness and because of load management at times, just like every team does with its players. He missed a game a week before Christmas with it and on New Years Day as well.

And get out of here with he's not mentally tough because he considered retirement. Probably quite the contrary actually.

"If something doesn't make me happy, I don't do it. I don't want to do it. I'm just going to stay home, stay with my kids, stay with my family and try to be happy. I don't care. And this was right when I signed the largest contract in NBA history," Giannis continued.'

When happiness is the goal; failure is guaranteed. Never forget that (and I hope Giannis has learned it by now).

Luni · 04-27-2023, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

When happiness is the goal; failure is guaranteed. Never forget that (and I hope Giannis has learned it by now).

That is a pretty depressing way of thinking about things. Seems to me that despite his performance on the basketball court, Giannis takes an optimistic view on things and makes the most out of his situation. To some, not winning a championship must equate to being unhappy, but I bet Giannis would be the first to say that he's happy being able to support his family and do so playing basketball. Thinking that failure is guaranteed and happiness is not, is just a mindset, not a reality... at least in my opinion.

ninjabum87 · 04-27-2023, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

When happiness is the goal; failure is guaranteed. Never forget that (and I hope Giannis has learned it by now).

Lol that's some "#grind" instagram dogsht wisdom right there.

I feel bad for people who live miserable lives neglecting their families, mental health, and relationships in the pursuit of their career.

smalltown · 04-27-2023, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

When happiness is the goal; failure is guaranteed. Never forget that (and I hope Giannis has learned it by now).

That's an absolute load of...

boxbuster7 · 04-27-2023, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I don't see what this board sees in Giannis regarding the "kind of player" he is. This is a man who considered retirement not too long ago, had to take a mental sabbatical during this season because he couldn't hit a FT and now there is a legit question as to whether or not he was able to suit up the previous games.

From a mental POV, I don't believe him to be as strong as some make him out to be.

Are you talking about Ben Simmons or Giannis?

NeedChapmans · 04-27-2023, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjabum87

Lol that's some "#grind" instagram dogsht wisdom right there.

I feel bad for people who live miserable lives neglecting their families, mental health, and relationships in the pursuit of their career.

You misinterpret the statement as some kind of work ethic and it's not that. But it is to say that if one only seeks out the things that make them happy; they'll be empty.

NeedChapmans · 04-27-2023, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by boxbuster7

Are you talking about Ben Simmons or Giannis?

There are certainly levels.

jplarson · 04-27-2023, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

"If something doesn't make me happy, I don't do it. I don't want to do it. I'm just going to stay home, stay with my kids, stay with my family and try to be happy. I don't care. And this was right when I signed the largest contract in NBA history," Giannis continued.'

When happiness is the goal; failure is guaranteed. Never forget that (and I hope Giannis has learned it by now).

#FoundingFathersFailure

NeedChapmans · 04-27-2023, 02:44 PM

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#FoundingFathersFailure

Hey now; they did a lot of things right, but noone is perfect.

NeedChapmans · 04-27-2023, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Luni

That is a pretty depressing way of thinking about things. Seems to me that despite his performance on the basketball court, Giannis takes an optimistic view on things and makes the most out of his situation. To some, not winning a championship must equate to being unhappy, but I bet Giannis would be the first to say that he's happy being able to support his family and do so playing basketball. Thinking that failure is guaranteed and happiness is not, is just a mindset, not a reality... at least in my opinion.

Giannis had just won B2B MVP's, was on his way to a possible 3rd (as the story goes) and he was contemplating retirement. He had reached the height that most every NBA player aspires to and the man just wasn't feelin it.

To me; while he's likely all the things you said he was above ... he's also someone who doesn't enjoy playing basketball all that much and it was clear from his comments that he'd rather be doing other things and the NBA is a means to the end. Now listen, everyone goes through these lows at times and it's very important to note that Giannis is still on the court, won a title, and is still one of the best in the game. But it is also important to note that he still struggles with it and my comment was made only to say he's not as put together as the previous comments would suggest.

Not to mention, his comments in the presser about failure are largely incorrect. This was absolutely a failure and it's OK to admit as much. One who never fails, never succeeds and it's silly not to admit something so obvious.

mc1 · 04-27-2023, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I don't see what this board sees in Giannis regarding the "kind of player" he is. This is a man who considered retirement not too long ago, had to take a mental sabbatical during this season because he couldn't hit a FT and now there is a legit question as to whether or not he was able to suit up the previous games.

From a mental POV, I don't believe him to be as strong as some make him out to be.

Considered but didnt actually do it. The GOAT actually did quit and walked away from basketball after a 3-peat. Guess he was a quitter and mentally weak.

drobfan8 · 04-27-2023, 03:26 PM

Man, why do people love to turn on the good guys as soon as they lose?

This thread has turned gross.

gomiamigo · 04-27-2023, 03:30 PM

Losing to the eighth seed 4-1 when you’re the best team in basketball and expectations are a championship is a failure.

boxbuster7 · 04-27-2023, 04:11 PM

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Losing to the eighth seed 4-1 when you’re the best team in basketball and expectations are a championship is a failure.

Giannis was obviously not 100% right this series.

He played 11 minutes in game one and missed game two and three.

yiguiri2002 · 04-27-2023, 04:11 PM

Mental strength is now about playing a sport in front of people? Weird take.

I don't know about the rest, but I'll take overcoming living extremely poor and being constantly discriminated as a show of mental strength over a game. Giannis probably doesn't care that much about basketball because of all he's had to overcome and that's fine.

Not everyone has to be like Jimmy. The fact that both of them chose their path and are successful and happy about it is all that matters.

titletowncards · 04-29-2023, 12:34 AM

Can't wait to add some nice Giannis cards at a lower price. He's my favorite person in any sport. His post game comments were nothing I've ever heard from any athlete before. I'm glad he plays for my team and will continue to for years to come. Some things are more important than profit in cards.

Spacemanspif · 04-29-2023, 01:57 AM

I mean it's pretty clear that both the guys posting to bash Giannis have big investments (both monetary and emotional) in the other MVP candidates this year.

I get backing your guy, but too often do we see people resort to bashing the opposition instead of promoting their own strengths. Pushing someone else down doesn't actually make you taller.

On topic, I love Giannis' response, especially coming up with something so nuanced in an instant, and having the self-recognition to realize he was getting defensive and to respect the reporter enough to let him know he didn't mean to get personal. That's the kind of superstar the league needs to push, not... the other guys who got eliminated this week.

Duvalier · 04-29-2023, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I don't see what this board sees in Giannis regarding the "kind of player" he is. This is a man who considered retirement not too long ago, had to take a mental sabbatical during this season because he couldn't hit a FT and now there is a legit question as to whether or not he was able to suit up the previous games.

From a mental POV, I don't believe him to be as strong as some make him out to be.

Lol...this from the guy who said Gobert was a Top 5 player in the NBA just last year lol.

GOATcards · 04-29-2023, 02:38 PM

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Lol...this from the guy who said Gobert was a Top 5 player in the NBA just last year lol.

top 5 center?

04-27-2023, 11:21 AM	#7351
yiguiri2002 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 12,566 afigueroaquevedo2002 yiguiri2002	Offseason + 1st round exit? Of course they are gonna fall. I still think that even with an expected 20% additional drop it's worth to hold right now. This was a perfect storm for a price drop: a superstar going crazy, whole team abnormally shooting great, Giannis missing 2 games (almost 3). Resign BroLo, use the MLE and BAE and go for it again. And start drafting better, last legit rotation player they drafted was DDV. __________________ Basketball Sets: Threads Century Greats Jerseys - Innovation Stat Line Jerseys Soccer Sets: 2018 World Cup Prizm Peru Parallels - 2015 Select Soccer Peru Parallels Players: Red Bulls Parallels, 17-18 Thibs Prizms, Soccer Legends Autos

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gomiamigo Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: in your head Posts: 10,964 esmoney gomiamigo	Losing to the eighth seed 4-1 when you’re the best team in basketball and expectations are a championship is a failure. __________________ IG: KevinDurant35Cards

04-27-2023, 04:11 PM	#7371
yiguiri2002 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 12,566 afigueroaquevedo2002 yiguiri2002	Mental strength is now about playing a sport in front of people? Weird take. I don't know about the rest, but I'll take overcoming living extremely poor and being constantly discriminated as a show of mental strength over a game. Giannis probably doesn't care that much about basketball because of all he's had to overcome and that's fine. Not everyone has to be like Jimmy. The fact that both of them chose their path and are successful and happy about it is all that matters. __________________ Basketball Sets: Threads Century Greats Jerseys - Innovation Stat Line Jerseys Soccer Sets: 2018 World Cup Prizm Peru Parallels - 2015 Select Soccer Peru Parallels Players: Red Bulls Parallels, 17-18 Thibs Prizms, Soccer Legends Autos

04-29-2023, 12:34 AM	#7372
titletowncards Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,749	Can't wait to add some nice Giannis cards at a lower price. He's my favorite person in any sport. His post game comments were nothing I've ever heard from any athlete before. I'm glad he plays for my team and will continue to for years to come. Some things are more important than profit in cards. __________________ titletowncards Go Pack Go! 2020-21 NBA Champion Milwaukee Bucks

04-29-2023, 01:57 AM	#7373
Spacemanspif Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 5,862 Spacemanspif	I mean it's pretty clear that both the guys posting to bash Giannis have big investments (both monetary and emotional) in the other MVP candidates this year. I get backing your guy, but too often do we see people resort to bashing the opposition instead of promoting their own strengths. Pushing someone else down doesn't actually make you taller. On topic, I love Giannis' response, especially coming up with something so nuanced in an instant, and having the self-recognition to realize he was getting defensive and to respect the reporter enough to let him know he didn't mean to get personal. That's the kind of superstar the league needs to push, not... the other guys who got eliminated this week.