First Buzz: 2023 Bowman baseball cards (full details added)

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by ObanMontecristo

What do people think about the new refractor types with this year’s Bowman release (pearl, grass, lunar)? Just the latest gimmick or will any of them have staying power? I kind of like the grass ones….

Which boxes can you pull the green grass parallels from?

[zworykin]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Which boxes can you pull the green grass parallels from?

All of them. Green grass is universal, unlike green and green shimmer, which are retail exclusive.

https://www.topps.com/media/pdf/odds...eball_Odds.pdf

[bub838]

Originally Posted by ObanMontecristo

What do people think about the new refractor types with this year’s Bowman release (pearl, grass, lunar)? Just the latest gimmick or will any of them have staying power? I kind of like the grass ones….

They're definitely gimmicky, but I do like them. They will have staying power as long as they want to keep print runs up. I see them adding more gimmicks, not getting rid of any.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by zworykin

All of them. Green grass is universal, unlike green and green shimmer, which are tetail exclusive.

https://www.topps.com/media/pdf/odds...eball_Odds.pdf

Thanks! Be careful, several eBay sellers are listing green shimmers as green grass parallels, I’m sure many are not aware of the difference.

[atomic619jd]

My retail from Fanatics has shipped.

[Chris P]

Got a notice that the Bowman Hobby i ordered from Fansedge with the discount is being shipped

[Mossed]

What is a baseline for a base 1st bowman chrome auto? Is anything more than $100 considered an expensive prospect and anything under $100 considered a cheaper one?

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Mossed

What is a baseline for a base 1st bowman chrome auto? Is anything more than $100 considered an expensive prospect and anything under $100 considered a cheaper one?

During the pandemic, the top guys were hitting $500-$600 for base autos.

Seems like the new peak is around $300-$500 for the top base autos.

I think for the higher ceiling higher risk guys, you can find them as low as $50-$60 nowadays, so to answer your question, anyone $100+ is already on many radars/top 50 lists at least.

Much of the prospecting money made is on those less than $50 guys who can spike 4x. It’s a lot harder for a $300 card to hit $1200.

[Mossed]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

During the pandemic, the top guys were hitting $500-$600 for base autos.

Seems like the new peak is around $300-$500 for the top base autos.

I think for the higher ceiling higher risk guys, you can find them as low as $50-$60 nowadays, so to answer your question, anyone $100+ is already on many radars/top 50 lists at least.

Much of the prospecting money made is on those less than $50 guys who can spike 4x. It’s a lot harder for a $300 card to hit $1200.

Very insightful! Thank you.

[Slvnumber2]

Have opened about 12-15 blasters, 1 jumbo box, and some hobby and have about 5000 cards from 2023 Bowman. Have a guy wanting to buy a giant box of about 3000 cards which includes 5-8 autos, about 1200 rookies and firsts, some colors, 200 inserts(prospects, spotlight, September call ups, and the rest regular Bowman. Thinking of pricing it as one lump sum at around an avg of 35-40 cents a card would out the lot at around $950-1200. No cherry picking and guys like Collier, Druw Jones, Spencer Jones are in there. Just checking to see if I am in the ballpark, too high, too low… TIA.

[Boredlawyer]

Originally Posted by Slvnumber2

Have opened about 12-15 blasters, 1 jumbo box, and some hobby and have about 5000 cards from 2023 Bowman. Have a guy wanting to buy a giant box of about 3000 cards which includes 5-8 autos, about 1200 rookies and firsts, some colors, 200 inserts(prospects, spotlight, September call ups, and the rest regular Bowman. Thinking of pricing it as one lump sum at around an avg of 35-40 cents a card would out the lot at around $950-1200. No cherry picking and guys like Collier, Druw Jones, Spencer Jones are in there. Just checking to see if I am in the ballpark, too high, too low… TIA.

Way too high.

[zakcollects]

As someone who can't afford Jumbo's and has to deal with Canadian pricing where a Blaster is $42US, I'm instead buying singles.

I've noticed that the cheapest way to get a player I want is to go after their Speckle Refractors. I'm curious why the market/collectors avoid these. They're always overlooked and sell for less than a higher number base refractor sometimes. It's a great little hack to keep costs down.

[Grave252]

Originally Posted by zakcollects

As someone who can't afford Jumbo's and has to deal with Canadian pricing where a Blaster is $42US, I'm instead buying singles.

I've noticed that the cheapest way to get a player I want is to go after their Speckle Refractors. I'm curious why the market/collectors avoid these. They're always overlooked and sell for less than a higher number base refractor sometimes. It's a great little hack to keep costs down.

I personally like speckle autos. Also, if a prospect gets hot, even speckles will get a big boost.

Additionally - they grade the easiest too if you are into that.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Slvnumber2

Have opened about 12-15 blasters, 1 jumbo box, and some hobby and have about 5000 cards from 2023 Bowman. Have a guy wanting to buy a giant box of about 3000 cards which includes 5-8 autos, about 1200 rookies and firsts, some colors, 200 inserts(prospects, spotlight, September call ups, and the rest regular Bowman. Thinking of pricing it as one lump sum at around an avg of 35-40 cents a card would out the lot at around $950-1200. No cherry picking and guys like Collier, Druw Jones, Spencer Jones are in there. Just checking to see if I am in the ballpark, too high, too low… TIA.

Too high, think half that. Leave some meat on the bone for the buyer.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by Giantrobot

Same, not a single numbered or anything beyond a refractor.

Just opened 3 and was fortunate to hit chrome auto/green and green grass. Blasters can be rough and with no odds on the packs I has to go search. Green grass 1/432

[jjo1776]

Sapphire autos this year are 1 in 14 packs so not guaranteed every box… lame

[cj828282]

Just odds for base autos. Should still be 1 auto per box accounting for the parallel autos.

[Prox3]

Originally Posted by Prox3

Just opened a horrid hobby box. Auto was Joe Stewart (corrected from Joe Ryan) /499. Chrome color was Aponte /150, Kenni Gomez /399. Paper color was a Hoskins /399, DeLauter /25. No Druw Jones paper or chrome base or really of anyone noteworthy. Best card was a Jacob Berry Atomic Refractor.

After this really bad Hobby box, I've opened 2.5 blasters and hit a Green /99 Holliday Auto, Aqua Caminero, Spencer Jones Chrome Base, Druw Jones Spotlight and a Gunnar Henderson Spotlight. The blasters have made up for the Hobby.

[Slvnumber2]

Originally Posted by Boredlawyer

Way too high.

Thank goodness I listened to you. You were right too high - only got $1025 for the box. 😉

[bub838]

Originally Posted by Slvnumber2

Thank goodness I listened to you. You were right too high - only got $1025 for the box. 😉

Does he need more cards?

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by Slvnumber2

Thank goodness I listened to you. You were right too high - only got $1025 for the box. 😉

Either you missed something and he knows it or you found the perfect sucker. Isn't that price about what you paid for the product with no big hits (that you stated)? Can't see why anyone would spend that amount unless they saw something you missed.

[Chiwsox2005]

Ripped a Hobby case the other day and did pretty poorly. Ripped 4 blasters today and had better results. 3 of the blasters were better than probably 8 or 9 of the hobby boxes from my case.




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[315er]

Third blaster was the charm.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by 315er

Third blaster was the charm.

Don’t know how much you have ripped, OVERALL, but if that is Gem, you are way ahead. So glad those are pack pulled and not redemptions. Congratulations

[315er]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

Don’t know how much you have ripped, OVERALL, but if that is Gem, you are way ahead. So glad those are pack pulled and not redemptions. Congratulations

Thanks. First pack of my third blaster, first 2 only had 1 lunar and 1 paper color. I also bought a retail box which I haven't ripped yet.