Does the Celtics lack of success fall on Tatum or Coach Mazzulla?

LeonfromNC · 05-21-2023, 11:10 PM

So is Tatum the reason to blame?

Or the coach?

Or a little bit of both?

Discuss.

ck6599 · 05-22-2023, 08:46 AM

It's on Mazzulla and Tatum.
Tatum is a top 3 talent in the league, but he does not have the intangibles, he doesn't have the mentality, the killer instinct. He's not (as Butler describes the Heat) "a dog." It's a player driven league........but if you have a talent that doesn't have the killer instinct then you need a coach that can get it out of you. Mazzulla is not that guy.......frankly he probably isn't that guy for any team, he should be coaching D3 college. He looked good early on because the Celtics were winning early season games (AKA low pressure games), but frankly I could have rolled a ball out there and told them to do their thing in October/November and probably would have had a winning record.
I'm a HUGE Celtics fan, but this talent is going to be wasted......I don't see this team winning anything.
This team is SOFT....the only one that has shown any balls is Smart and Grant Wiliams, and those guys aren't the ones that need to do it. They need to bring in a strong coach, and even then, if the coach is too strong, Tatum and/or Brown may not like being challenged......it's their makeup that is the problem. I'd trade Tatum for a guy like Butler (he's too old at this point to do straight up for Tatum), but a true "dog" along with Brown, Brogdon, White, Williams.....woud definitely be better.
Tatum will be great for years.....he'll have 50 point games and maybe win a regular season MVP, but he shrivels when the pressure is at its highest.

View Poll Results: Who’s to blame for the Celtics lack of success?
Jayson Tatum	7	53.85%
Coach Mazzulla	1	7.69%
The poor play of the supporting cast (Brown, Smart, etc)	0	0%
A combination of all	3	23.08%
Jimmy Butler	2	15.38%
Voters: 13. You may not vote on this poll

05-21-2023, 11:10 PM	#1
LeonfromNC Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15,219	Does the Celtics lack of success fall on Tatum or Coach Mazzulla? So is Tatum the reason to blame? Or the coach? Or a little bit of both? Discuss.

05-22-2023, 08:46 AM	#2
ck6599 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 7,728 Ck6599	It's on Mazzulla and Tatum. Tatum is a top 3 talent in the league, but he does not have the intangibles, he doesn't have the mentality, the killer instinct. He's not (as Butler describes the Heat) "a dog." It's a player driven league........but if you have a talent that doesn't have the killer instinct then you need a coach that can get it out of you. Mazzulla is not that guy.......frankly he probably isn't that guy for any team, he should be coaching D3 college. He looked good early on because the Celtics were winning early season games (AKA low pressure games), but frankly I could have rolled a ball out there and told them to do their thing in October/November and probably would have had a winning record. I'm a HUGE Celtics fan, but this talent is going to be wasted......I don't see this team winning anything. This team is SOFT....the only one that has shown any balls is Smart and Grant Wiliams, and those guys aren't the ones that need to do it. They need to bring in a strong coach, and even then, if the coach is too strong, Tatum and/or Brown may not like being challenged......it's their makeup that is the problem. I'd trade Tatum for a guy like Butler (he's too old at this point to do straight up for Tatum), but a true "dog" along with Brown, Brogdon, White, Williams.....woud definitely be better. Tatum will be great for years.....he'll have 50 point games and maybe win a regular season MVP, but he shrivels when the pressure is at its highest. __________________ PLEASE don't ask me "what's your lowest price." If I list a price and say OBO.....then make an offer. Homepage, which is ALWAYS up to date: https://sites.google.com/site/cleescardsstuff/