I hit a massive ‘23 chrome card and am now in over my head

[daveyc1]

just pop that baby on ebay with a high BIN. ship it USPS registered mail after you sell. it is expensive, it is slow, it is also the safest way this side of renting a brinks truck or driving it yourself. Registered mail is supposed to be locked up and accounted for at every stop.

[jdjdjd]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Sell it on your own

I don't have faith in any of these big auction houses that they can get more for the item. They will simply take more fees the more valuable the item is.

And as stated, that's not a 5 figure card, so no point

I don’t think Goldin charges seller fees for at least some high end cards. If not by default, could try to negotiate.

Gg OP. Send to auction, use reputable insured mailing service. I choose to use Goldin and USPS registered mail.

[Mister2Bits]

Looks like I need to look more into USPS registered.

I will never use UPS so I just defaulted to FedEx and have never had an isssue.

[Promethius88]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

“I hit a massive ‘23 chrome card and am now in over my head”

That really did make me LOL!! Thanks for that!

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

“I hit a massive ‘23 chrome card and am now in over my head”

Who peed in your Cheerios?
What am I thinking, just you being you as usual.

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[PumpnDumpling]

Originally Posted by no10pin

That's a hell of a hit!

Do you have a white cat? Perhaps a Full Santa Clausian' White Beard and Mustachio?

[evileddie]

I wish I was rich as I would certainly make you a serious offer for it. Love my Cubbies and Morel. Congrats on the massive hit, it's a beautiful card.

[SupermanBrandon]

Talk to PCSportsCards. Have them do all the work. Give them a small piece. It will get lost in Goldin auctions. Be smart and don’t over think it. Have someone do every step of the process for you…since you’re in over your head. Don’t start pinching pennies. The gamble paid off and you won the lottery already. Unload it.


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[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by jdjdjd

I don’t think Goldin charges seller fees for at least some high end cards. If not by default, could try to negotiate.

Gg OP. Send to auction, use reputable insured mailing service. I choose to use Goldin and USPS registered mail.

There fees are in their "spread pricing." Trust me, they are there, they aren't working for free.

Buyer is paying 20% buyers premium.

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by jdjdjd

I don’t think Goldin charges seller fees for at least some high end cards.

Might be 100% of hammer price or more, but that hammer price is reduced compared to what it would sell for on ebay (for example), because the buyer's fee is tacked on. If the OP hasn't looked at auction payout structure before, this can be a bit confusing at first, which is why I'm commenting.


Some quick examples of payouts based on an arbitrary sale amount over $5,000 that I picked -- $6,600

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Goldin:
https://goldin.co/faq

If it goes for $5k or more with Goldin, that says 108% to the seller.

$5500 hammer price + 20% buyer premium ($1,100) = $6,600 sale price.

108% of $5500 = $5940 to the seller. 90% of the final cost to the buyer is going to the seller.

They're calling hammer price as 'sale price' and adding buyer's premium onto sale price. I think that's a little confusing, but that seems to be standard terminology. No one is actually getting a card for the "sale price. It is where the bidding ends, but it's not the final price the buyer will pay for the card.

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Ebay:
ebay fees on trading cards says: 13.25% up to $7,500 (smaller % after 7500, not applicable to this example) Some sellers have slightly lower fees.

Same $6,600 price as above. 13.25% = $874.50. = $5725.50 to the seller. Ebay fee is applied to the shipping amount charged (pretty certain) and for some states I think they also can count the sales tax and apply the ebay fee after sales tax (I forget how that works exactly, but I recall two identical sale amounts where the fee was different, and I think it had to do with the buyer state being different)

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PC Sportscards (ebay):
https://pcsportscards.com/consignment

$5k-9999.99 = 92% payout.

92% of the same $6,600 sale would be $6,072.


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dcsports87 (ebay):
https://dcsports87.com/how-process-works

$5k+, 97% minus $300 per listing.

97% of $6,600 = $6,402 - $300 = $6,102

97% of $6,300 (take the $300 off first) = $6,111 (I think it's the first one, but just comparing logic)

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Ebay consignment sellers move a lot of volume, and therefore have a lot of different buyers. Ebay buyers (like myself) tend to click "See other items" and search/browse by player or team or sport or year or anything really. Some consignment sellers send out communications via email, IG, etc, and may show some cards coming up for sale, currently listed, or ending soon. This also reaches potential buyers.

Good luck!

(if anyone sees any errors above please let me know and I will correct)

[Stech36]

Originally Posted by Mister2Bits

Looks like I need to look more into USPS registered.

I will never use UPS so I just defaulted to FedEx and have never had an isssue.

Fedex does not insure collectibles for over $1,000. Regardless of how much you insure it for. Usps registered is the way to go.

More people need to know this.

https://www.refundretriever.com/blog...20and%20slides

[TradingfromSTL]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Who peed in your Cheerios?
What am I thinking, just you being you as usual.

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I didn’t take it that way but if that particular person is trying to knock me down today, it’s going to take every piece of ammo he’s got. I just humbled myself to ask because I know for a fact there are people here with better experience than myself on this matter. I’m not totally lost. But I’m just showing a little respect for this level of the hobby.

[jdjdjd]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

“I hit a massive ‘23 chrome card and am now in over my head”

Originally Posted by towerymt

Might be 100% of hammer price or more, but that hammer price is reduced compared to what it would sell for on ebay (for example), because the buyer's fee is tacked on. If the OP hasn't looked at auction payout structure before, this can be a bit confusing at first, which is why I'm commenting.


Some quick examples of payouts based on an arbitrary sale amount over $5,000 that I picked -- $6,600

---------------------
Goldin:
https://goldin.co/faq

If it goes for $5k or more with Goldin, that says 108% to the seller.

$5500 hammer price + 20% buyer premium ($1,100) = $6,600 sale price.

108% of $5500 = $5940 to the seller. 90% of the final cost to the buyer is going to the seller.

They're calling hammer price as 'sale price' and adding buyer's premium onto sale price. I think that's a little confusing, but that seems to be standard terminology. No one is actually getting a card for the "sale price. It is where the bidding ends, but it's not the final price the buyer will pay for the card.

---------------------
Ebay:
ebay fees on trading cards says: 13.25% up to $7,500 (smaller % after 7500, not applicable to this example) Some sellers have slightly lower fees.

Same $6,600 price as above. 13.25% = $874.50. = $5725.50 to the seller. Ebay fee is applied to the shipping amount charged (pretty certain) and for some states I think they also can count the sales tax and apply the ebay fee after sales tax (I forget how that works exactly, but I recall two identical sale amounts where the fee was different, and I think it had to do with the buyer state being different)

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PC Sportscards (ebay):
https://pcsportscards.com/consignment

$5k-9999.99 = 92% payout.

92% of the same $6,600 sale would be $6,072.


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dcsports87 (ebay):
https://dcsports87.com/how-process-works

$5k+, 97% minus $300 per listing.

97% of $6,600 = $6,402 - $300 = $6,102

97% of $6,300 (take the $300 off first) = $6,111 (I think it's the first one, but just comparing logic)

---------------------

Ebay consignment sellers move a lot of volume, and therefore have a lot of different buyers. Ebay buyers (like myself) tend to click "See other items" and search/browse by player or team or sport or year or anything really. Some consignment sellers send out communications via email, IG, etc, and may show some cards coming up for sale, currently listed, or ending soon. This also reaches potential buyers.

Good luck!

(if anyone sees any errors above please let me know and I will correct)

Thanks for taking the time to put this together!

[TradingfromSTL]

Originally Posted by towerymt

Might be 100% of hammer price or more, but that hammer price is reduced compared to what it would sell for on ebay (for example), because the buyer's fee is tacked on. If the OP hasn't looked at auction payout structure before, this can be a bit confusing at first, which is why I'm commenting.


Some quick examples of payouts based on an arbitrary sale amount over $5,000 that I picked -- $6,600

---------------------
Goldin:
https://goldin.co/faq

If it goes for $5k or more with Goldin, that says 108% to the seller.

$5500 hammer price + 20% buyer premium ($1,100) = $6,600 sale price.

108% of $5500 = $5940 to the seller. 90% of the final cost to the buyer is going to the seller.

They're calling hammer price as 'sale price' and adding buyer's premium onto sale price. I think that's a little confusing, but that seems to be standard terminology. No one is actually getting a card for the "sale price. It is where the bidding ends, but it's not the final price the buyer will pay for the card.

---------------------
Ebay:
ebay fees on trading cards says: 13.25% up to $7,500 (smaller % after 7500, not applicable to this example) Some sellers have slightly lower fees.

Same $6,600 price as above. 13.25% = $874.50. = $5725.50 to the seller. Ebay fee is applied to the shipping amount charged (pretty certain) and for some states I think they also can count the sales tax and apply the ebay fee after sales tax (I forget how that works exactly, but I recall two identical sale amounts where the fee was different, and I think it had to do with the buyer state being different)

---------------------
PC Sportscards (ebay):
https://pcsportscards.com/consignment

$5k-9999.99 = 92% payout.

92% of the same $6,600 sale would be $6,072.


---------------------
dcsports87 (ebay):
https://dcsports87.com/how-process-works

$5k+, 97% minus $300 per listing.

97% of $6,600 = $6,402 - $300 = $6,102

97% of $6,300 (take the $300 off first) = $6,111 (I think it's the first one, but just comparing logic)

---------------------

Ebay consignment sellers move a lot of volume, and therefore have a lot of different buyers. Ebay buyers (like myself) tend to click "See other items" and search/browse by player or team or sport or year or anything really. Some consignment sellers send out communications via email, IG, etc, and may show some cards coming up for sale, currently listed, or ending soon. This also reaches potential buyers.

Good luck!

(if anyone sees any errors above please let me know and I will correct)

That is an incredibly well put together write up and it definitely helps paint a clear picture. Can’t tell you how much I appreciate it.

[Mister2Bits]

Originally Posted by towerymt

Good luck!

(if anyone sees any errors above please let me know and I will correct)

Didnt want to quote the whole post again - but this is super helpful.

[SupermanBrandon]

So PCSportsCards. Direct relationship w/ PSA. Huge volume PSA guys. Ive heard a ton of negatives re: DCSports on BO. Just stay away from Goldin!

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Who peed in your Cheerios?
What am I thinking, just you being you as usual.

You’re one of the most sensitive clowns on the board. The guy asked why I suggested sending it off to a consignor. I replied with the OP’s title, where he states he’s in over his head.

Go cry elsewhere.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I would personally recommend USPS Registered Mail over FedEx. But that's me.

Fedex would be the last place I'd use. There are way too many horror stories using them here.

[mrchipz]

As someone that has sold 2 5 figure cards on ebay in the past 18 months i would only use registered mail by usps.

I just say in auction it will ship usps registered mail and will take 10-14 days.

I go this route cause it is by far the most secure mailing service and the cost with built in insurance.

I sold a card for $12,000 and registered mail included insurance of up to $50,000 allthough it was only for what i declared on the form which was $12,000 and the entire charge was like $30 to ship it.

Much cheaper then any other option with that kind of insurance also fedex and ups wont even insure something that high so usps registered mail is the way to go.

Took about 10 days for a card to get across the country for me.


Amazing card by the way.

If it was me i would put it on ebay for $20,000 obo and let offers come in. all it takes is one person that has alot of money to really want it.

As far as who to sell it with i am a ebay seller so i always just sell my own stuff.
But if you dont want to do that i would just send it to a consignor on ebay.

I do feel alot of cards will do better on ebay over Goldin or Pwcc, i just think there are many more eyes and users on ebay then private auction sites.

Just my personal advice.

[BBases31]

Nice pull but likely worth less than you think. 3-4k max

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by mrchipz

As someone that has sold 2 5 figure cards on ebay in the past 18 months i would only use registered mail by usps.

I just say in auction it will ship usps registered mail and will take 10-14 days.

I go this route cause it is by far the most secure mailing service and the cost with built in insurance.

I sold a card for $12,000 and registered mail included insurance of up to $50,000 allthough it was only for what i declared on the form which was $12,000 and the entire charge was like $30 to ship it.

Much cheaper then any other option with that kind of insurance also fedex and ups wont even insure something that high so usps registered mail is the way to go.

Took about 10 days for a card to get across the country for me.


Amazing card by the way.

If it was me i would put it on ebay for $20,000 obo and let offers come in. all it takes is one person that has alot of money to really want it.

As far as who to sell it with i am a ebay seller so i always just sell my own stuff.
But if you dont want to do that i would just send it to a consignor on ebay.

I do feel alot of cards will do better on ebay over Goldin or Pwcc, i just think there are many more eyes and users on ebay then private auction sites.

Just my personal advice.

I cant support this approach on this card. Be quite, go silent, get it in the right hands and let them unload it for you after they get it graded. The longer it sits on eBay at a stupid price, the lower the offers get. The interest in the card declines. The more those "big money guys" question the market and their decisions. Don't over think this. Get it graded. Get it auctioned. Make those guys knowingly competing against each other, now! He said he doesn't know what he's doing...so get it to someone that does.

[TradingfromSTL]

Originally Posted by mrchipz

If it was me i would put it on ebay for $20,000 obo and let offers come in. all it takes is one person that has alot of money to really want it.

Already I’m that process as we speak. I appreciate the advice about shipping, as well!

[mrchipz]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

I cant support this approach on this card. Be quite, go silent, get it in the right hands and let them unload it for you after they get it graded. The longer it sits on eBay at a stupid price, the lower the offers get. The interest in the card declines. The more those "big money guys" question the market and their decisions. Don't over think this. Get it graded. Get it auctioned. Make those guys knowingly competing against each other, now! He said he doesn't know what he's doing...so get it to someone that does.

From my experience with my sales i have always gotten much more money with buy it now with best offers.

I have had plenty of times i have sold cards for much more then people said they would go for.

Guess we will find out.

[mrchipz]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Nice pull but likely worth less than you think. 3-4k max

Too low.
Kid just turned 23 few months ago and is already improving in every category this year.
A topps chrome super auto is like the best or 2nd best card to won of a baseball player.
Bowman chrome 1st auto or topps chrome super auto rc 1A or 1B
I will pay $3,000 for it right now. Offer stands op.

[TradingfromSTL]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

I cant support this approach on this card. Be quite, go silent, get it in the right hands and let them unload it for you after they get it graded. The longer it sits on eBay at a stupid price, the lower the offers get. The interest in the card declines. The more those "big money guys" question the market and their decisions. Don't over think this. Get it graded. Get it auctioned. Make those guys knowingly competing against each other, now! He said he doesn't know what he's doing...so get it to someone that does.

I’m gathering there are a lot of schools of thought on this! i see the pros and cons of both. I get why some guys say grade it, too. I just don’t totally know that it is necessary. I’ve already reached out to Goldin just a short time ago, too. eBay was being viewed as a solid means to measure interest and if someone meets where my mind is at on price, then I can always go that route all the same.

I can tell you one thing up front. If some of the individuals are correct in that it will only be a 3-6k card, it’s going to be awkward telling all my fellow Cardinal fans about how I have this card in my collection. Lol