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Old 08-07-2023, 10:43 PM   #15026
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Umpiring has gotten much better. It’s just there’s now a box on the tv and people have smart phones that show every location.
I would love to watch some old games with the little box to see whether this is true or not. I will say one thing the umpires of yore weren’t as arrogant as the new breed of today.
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Old 08-07-2023, 10:49 PM   #15027
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Umpiring has gotten much better. It’s just there’s now a box on the tv and people have smart phones that show every location.
Then why do we have umpires that consistently call pitches off the plate strikes? Shouldn't they use all that technology to help hone their craft?

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Old 08-07-2023, 10:51 PM   #15028
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I would love to watch some old games with the little box to see whether this is true or not. I will say one thing the umpires of yore weren’t as arrogant as the new breed of today.
I will say pitchers paint much better and with higher velocity than they did way back in the day.

But still, that fact is just another reason human umpires are out of date and it's time for a robot zone.

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Old 08-07-2023, 11:02 PM   #15029
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I will say pitchers paint much better and with higher velocity than they did way back in the day.

But still, that fact is just another reason human umpires are out of date and it's time for a robot zone.

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What I never realized when I was younger was catchers framing pitches and moving their glove after they caught it. It might have went on but I don’t remember it if it did. I agree with the velocity there were a couple of pitchers in the high 90’s but now it seems every bullpen has at least 2 guys in the high 90’s.

Who do you think would get helped more by robotic umpires pitchers or batters.
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Old 08-08-2023, 06:11 AM   #15030
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How can you all forget Livan Hernandez with Eric Gregg as the ump. Hell, guys like glavine and Jimmy key owe their careers to getting 6 inches off the plate

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Old 08-08-2023, 07:12 AM   #15031
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Trying to but knowing they are saddled with him for at least another year makes it hard. I was all for it when they signed him and I thought he was someone who could help get them a World Series but obviously I was wrong. He had his chance when Judge was out to lead this team and did nothing.
I'm confused. He's signed through 2028. No one is going to be dumb enough to take him and that huge salary off our hands.
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Old 08-08-2023, 07:22 AM   #15032
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I will say pitchers paint much better and with higher velocity than they did way back in the day.

But still, that fact is just another reason human umpires are out of date and it's time for a robot zone.

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Umpiring has been going downhill the last few years and this year it seems to be at an all time worst. I've been screaming for the automated robot strike zone. Manfred has changed so much about the game, I'm not sure what he is waiting for to implement this.
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Old 08-08-2023, 07:23 AM   #15033
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Back to sole position of last place. I wonder if they will suspend Boone again instead of doing something about the horrible umpiring that continues to lead these managers to complain.
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Old 08-08-2023, 07:31 AM   #15034
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Yankees Catching Prospect Wells Off to Strong Start at Triple-A

https://www.si.com/mlb/yankees/news/...triple-a-matt9

I'd rather see him starting that Higgy. Plus, maybe he can continue to assist Volpe.
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Old 08-08-2023, 09:39 AM   #15035
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I'm confused. He's signed through 2028. No one is going to be dumb enough to take him and that huge salary off our hands.
Normally if a player is traded to another team, the team that traded him normally takes a majority of the salary
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Old 08-08-2023, 09:43 AM   #15036
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I'm confused. He's signed through 2028. No one is going to be dumb enough to take him and that huge salary off our hands.
His days of being an all star are done but he is still an above average bat who can be a contributor when healthy. It wouldn’t surprise me to see the Yankees find a trade partner on the west coast at the deadline next year if the Yankees eat 2/3 of the money
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Old 08-08-2023, 10:32 AM   #15037
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Tennis can track the hairs on a ball moving at 120mph. Soccer can see a fingertip cross a line 50-75 yards away. But baseball can't or doesn't trust tech watching a ball moving at 95mph from 60ft away? Lol. Someone's pockets haven't been lined enough (yet).
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Old 08-08-2023, 11:51 AM   #15038
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Tennis can track the hairs on a ball moving at 120mph. Soccer can see a fingertip cross a line 50-75 yards away. But baseball can't or doesn't trust tech watching a ball moving at 95mph from 60ft away? Lol. Someone's pockets haven't been lined enough (yet).
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Old 08-08-2023, 12:08 PM   #15039
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My question is who monitors these umpires and is there any penalties admonished to those who constantly make a joke of the strike zone.
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Old 08-08-2023, 12:28 PM   #15040
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I would love to watch some old games with the little box to see whether this is true or not. I will say one thing the umpires of yore weren’t as arrogant as the new breed of today.
I remember seeing something where even over the period of having Pitch FX that the rate of missed calls has gone down pretty significantly. That said, I would venture a guess that the missed calls are heavily weighted towards the same bad umpires.
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Old 08-08-2023, 12:30 PM   #15041
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Tennis can track the hairs on a ball moving at 120mph. Soccer can see a fingertip cross a line 50-75 yards away. But baseball can't or doesn't trust tech watching a ball moving at 95mph from 60ft away? Lol. Someone's pockets haven't been lined enough (yet).
It's easier when you have defined lines. If anything, I'd love to see baseball start with using that tech for fair/foul calls. They show the balls being tracked in computer animations now, I have no clue why they want to risk a ball going over the foul pole and just leaving it up the the human eye to make a call and it being reviewed by camera angles that can't possibly say for certain.
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Old 08-08-2023, 12:33 PM   #15042
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My question is who monitors these umpires and is there any penalties admonished to those who constantly make a joke of the strike zone.
Pfft. All we know is that the crappy ones are not given postseason assignments but even still theres not enough good ones to keep all the crappy ones out.

And I bet thats part of the problem with enacting the robo zone---making sure the poor umpires don't have hurt feelings over it.

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Old 08-08-2023, 12:59 PM   #15043
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Tennis can track the hairs on a ball moving at 120mph. Soccer can see a fingertip cross a line 50-75 yards away. But baseball can't or doesn't trust tech watching a ball moving at 95mph from 60ft away? Lol. Someone's pockets haven't been lined enough (yet).
I wonder if they are afraid of the Umpire's Union.
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Old 08-08-2023, 01:01 PM   #15044
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I saw a tweet that said the umpire last night called 17 strikes out of 50 that were actually balls.
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Old 08-08-2023, 01:26 PM   #15045
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I saw a tweet that said the umpire last night called 17 strikes out of 50 that were actually balls.
The fact that we don't have an objective way to judge balls/strikes at this point in the game is really pretty sad. It's like the biggest single part of the game is essentially a hazy judgment call by some dumb human who probably has ego problems.

What kills me most is that there are players out there with absolutely ungodly talent at judging balls/strikes, but it does them absolutely no good if the arbitrary goof ball kneeling behind the catcher doesn't have the same level of talent.
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I wonder if they are afraid of the Umpire's Union.
Imagine what that union knows about the inner workings of baseball for the past few decades
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I saw a tweet that said the umpire last night called 17 strikes out of 50 that were actually balls.
If he was consistent it doesn’t matter, it’s up to hitters to adjust.
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Old 08-08-2023, 02:02 PM   #15048
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If he was consistent it doesn’t matter, it’s up to hitters to adjust.
that's a pretty bad take, players aren't going to adjust to swinging at bad pitches
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I was at a Tampa Tarpons game the other week and the umpire called strike 3. The batter challenged the call and it was a ball. Next pitch he hit a 3 run homer.

It’s time to bring it to the MLB!!!
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I was at a Tampa Tarpons game the other week and the umpire called strike 3. The batter challenged the call and it was a ball. Next pitch he hit a 3 run homer.

It’s time to bring it to the MLB!!!
I'm proud to say I'm an "old school" fan and I'm never happy when I hear about changes or potential changes to the game. But honestly the changes they put in place this year haven't been bad like I thought they would. So i guess I'm open to the electronic zone. The ump in last night's Yankee game was horrendous. I think these umps sometimes say screw it and call a bad game. This would prevent that.
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