Kurt's Card Care

[Eagle]

I didn't see a thread and if there is one, my apologies.

Anyone like this product? Does it actually work on dimples/scratches or is it just basically car wax?

I'm sure this is controversial on some level to some people here.

Thanks!

[PLB9eight]

Buckle up

[FrmDaLeftCoast]

I like the product...and when in doubt, I can reach out to him for assistance and/or opinion and he replies back. It's not going to work miracles...but will improve the overall look. Most importantly patience is required.

[Eagle]

Originally Posted by FrmDaLeftCoast

I like the product...and when in doubt, I can reach out to him for assistance and/or opinion and he replies back. It's not going to work miracles...but will improve the overall look. Most importantly patience is required.

Thank you!

[mjohnatgt]

Considered card alteration by many. Filling in holes/scratches exceeds proper card preparation like wiping off fingerprints.

[kingchromium24]

Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

Considered card alteration by many. Filling in holes/scratches exceeds proper card preparation like wiping off fingerprints.

Yep just a microfilm cloth to rub off dirt, dust, fingerprints….anything more than that I would consider altering the card

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by kingchromium24

Yep just a microfilm cloth to rub off dirt, dust, fingerprints….anything more than that I would consider altering the card

I am in the same camp as you. However, if you use Kurt's goop and buff out some print lines without any evidence left behind, how are you going to know? The grading companies can't detect if polish has been used. We all could easily have a purchased graded card which was polished right now. My biggest concern is that this polish wears off or makes the card worse over time.

"soaking" tobacco cards have been a thing for a long time as far as I have read. Some of Kurt's stuff (humidor) is really no different. I think a lot of this will become normalized going forward whether us "old" collectors like it or not. Bulk submitters will offer cleaning as an add-on when sending to PSA,SGC,etc. Results will speak for themselves whether good or bad.

[dribbler]

Using his and other card/wax polishes leads to alteration that can't be spotted right now. If it tricks a grading company and makes money, it's gonna keep happening.

[mc1]

Originally Posted by dribbler

Using his and other card/wax polishes leads to alteration that can't be spotted right now. If it tricks a grading company and makes money, it's gonna keep happening.

Key words, “right now”. Shame!

[discodanman45]

Do I need to buy the paper cutter separately or does it come with the elite card care package?

[Boostedwrx]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

Do I need to buy the paper cutter separately or does it come with the elite card care package?

[daveyc1]

it is alteration plain and simple. I dont see any other way to look at it.

keep in mind, we have zero idea what his "goop" is going to do to a cards surface 25 years from now. who knows, could it cause some sort of greening like on some finest refractors? break down the cards gloss over time? we dont know.

it is dishonest and a stupid thing to do.

[RustyDawg37]

love it, use it on everything i submit.

[mrchipz]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

it is alteration plain and simple. I dont see any other way to look at it.

keep in mind, we have zero idea what his "goop" is going to do to a cards surface 25 years from now. who knows, could it cause some sort of greening like on some finest refractors? break down the cards gloss over time? we dont know.

it is dishonest and a stupid thing to do.

You seriously think wiping scratches off a card is alteration?

Its no different then cleaning a window or waxing your car.

I have been doing it for over 20 years and i have cards graded from that long ago and i can assure you nothing has or will happen to the surface.

I dont know what is actually in his "product" But there are much better and cheaper things to use for cleaning card surfaces of chrome cards.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by mrchipz

You seriously think wiping scratches off a card is alteration?

You can't wipe a scratch off a card. If a chrome card has a topcoat, I guess you could even out the surface to make it disappear. You could also make it disappear by using a filler.

Wiping a card is fine. I also don't mind removing wax stains with glossier type cards. Removing wax stains on older cardboard stock would involve some type of more questionable techniques.

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by mrchipz

You seriously think wiping scratches off a card is alteration?

Its no different then cleaning a window or waxing your car.

I have been doing it for over 20 years and i have cards graded from that long ago and i can assure you nothing has or will happen to the surface.

I dont know what is actually in his "product" But there are much better and cheaper things to use for cleaning card surfaces of chrome cards.

it absolutely IS alteration. and apparently you have been altering cards for over 20 years. congragulations.

you wipe fingerprints off a card. to remove scratches you have only 2 options: use an abrasive, wax, to bring the gloss down to the level of the scratches or you can use a filler to fill the scratches. either way you are either removing gloss or adding filler to scratches.

see, alteration. easy, right?

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by mrchipz

You seriously think wiping scratches off a card is alteration?

Its no different then cleaning a window or waxing your car.

I have been doing it for over 20 years and i have cards graded from that long ago and i can assure you nothing has or will happen to the surface.

I dont know what is actually in his "product" But there are much better and cheaper things to use for cleaning card surfaces of chrome cards.

Yikes.

Do you sell under your own name on eBay? I’d like to make sure I don’t buy from you.

[YayNJ]

the people who use Kurts are the same people that bought Safemoon, and the same people that in the 2019/20 season started messaging everyone on ebay 'wud this grade a 10?!'

[larry25]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

it is alteration plain and simple. I dont see any other way to look at it.

keep in mind, we have zero idea what his "goop" is going to do to a cards surface 25 years from now. who knows, could it cause some sort of greening like on some finest refractors? break down the cards gloss over time? we dont know.

it is dishonest and a stupid thing to do.

It's wax, right? Wouldn't this chemically protect the card longer? Interesting thread.

[duron]

Originally Posted by Eagle

I didn't see a thread and if there is one, my apologies.

Anyone like this product? Does it actually work on dimples/scratches or is it just basically car wax?

I'm sure this is controversial on some level to some people here.

Thanks!

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1520281

You’re welcome!

[varjakpaul]

Does this product leave any kind of residue? Does it show under black lights or anything similar?

[duron]

Originally Posted by varjakpaul

Does this product leave any kind of residue? Does it show under black lights or anything similar?

Don’t worry! I assure you your alteration work will NOT be detected by TPGs!

[varjakpaul]

Originally Posted by duron

Don’t worry! I assure you your alteration work will NOT be detected by TPGs!

Oh, I have no interest in using this, I just cannot imagine this sort of thing not leaving obvious evidence if anybody's sincerely looking for it.

[duron]

Originally Posted by varjakpaul

Oh, I have no interest in using this, I just cannot imagine this sort of thing not leaving obvious evidence if anybody's sincerely looking for it.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by varjakpaul

Does this product leave any kind of residue? Does it show under black lights or anything similar?

The way half of the hobby goes full mojo happy dance when they pull anything not base, I don’t want to look at their cards under a black light.