2023-24 Season - Discussion Thread - Page 9

YayNJ · 09-19-2023, 07:08 AM

A Newcastle fan has been stabbed in Milan

tupacgr13 · 09-19-2023, 07:35 AM

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A Newcastle fan has been stabbed in Milan

Sadly hooliganism is blossoming all over europe nowadays. In Greece its the 20th year anniversary of no away fans allowed in games.

cardbuster · 09-19-2023, 11:03 AM

CL 2023/2024 talks should go on here or will anyone open a new thread?
Also, anyone else is playing CL Fantasy? Pretty nice prizes, a dedicated app, etc.

YayNJ · 09-19-2023, 11:53 AM

Just keep it in here. There's only like six of us.

Ianhatcher · 09-19-2023, 03:01 PM

Another year of having to listen to Micah Richards and Jamie Carragher run their yaps.

uggh...

yiguiri2002 · 09-19-2023, 04:03 PM

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Another year of having to listen to Micah Richards and Jamie Carragher run their yaps.

uggh...

I think you might be the only one that doesn't like Micah. Dude's hilarious.

Also, great choice by CBS to put the Lazio-Atleti game, crazy ending.

Ianhatcher · 09-19-2023, 04:06 PM

The Lazio goal by Provedel on the last play...what a play from a GK!

kobewhite · 09-19-2023, 04:44 PM

How about Joao Felix....

Having quite the season since joining a good team.

chiefs · 09-19-2023, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

Another year of having to listen to Micah Richards and Jamie Carragher run their yaps.

uggh...

On the plus side we get Kate abdo for another year

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YayNJ · 09-19-2023, 09:47 PM

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On the plus side we get Kate abdo for another year

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Now we're talking

jmcca170 · 09-19-2023, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

Another year of having to listen to Micah Richards and Jamie Carragher run their yaps.

uggh...

Congrats everyone. We found the only guy on the planet who doesn’t like their studio show

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kobewhite · 09-19-2023, 10:36 PM

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Another year of having to listen to Micah Richards and Jamie Carragher run their yaps.

uggh...

Literally by far and away the most entertaining show to watch.....

How can you hate that crew with Thierry and Kate as well.

CiaranGQ · 09-20-2023, 01:07 AM

Manchester City fans taunting Red Star Belgrade fans last night with chants of, “Champions of Europe; you’ll never sing that”.

Ignorance and arrogance of certain modern fans summed up in just seven words.

YayNJ · 09-20-2023, 03:26 AM

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Manchester City fans taunting Red Star Belgrade fans last night with chants of, “Champions of Europe; you’ll never sing that”.

Ignorance and arrogance of certain modern fans summed up in just seven words.

Indeed. I was reading an article about Union Berlin this morning, and this part stood out :

Five years ago Union were playing in the second tier of German football. On Wednesday they will make their Champions League debut against Real Madrid at the Bernabeu.

It is a journey made not with state backing, billionaire owners or - for the most part - household names in the playing squad. The club are entirely fan owned, financed by more than 40,000 supporter memberships, with those members making key decisions such as the appointment of the chief executive and board. The rise into the Champions League has not been universally welcomed by fans, particularly given the choice of venue.

"When we got to the Bundesliga, there were fears the club might change, but no competition or player is bigger than the club.

"I am worried about the Champions League. It has changed our club. It is a big-money league with teams who in our opinion do not belong there - Manchester City, Newcastle, PSG, the marketing club from Leipzig.

"That is not our league, that's why I have mixed feelings. The Olympic stadium is not home."

kingb22 · 09-20-2023, 07:48 AM

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Indeed. I was reading an article about Union Berlin this morning, and this part stood out :

Five years ago Union were playing in the second tier of German football. On Wednesday they will make their Champions League debut against Real Madrid at the Bernabeu.

It is a journey made not with state backing, billionaire owners or - for the most part - household names in the playing squad. The club are entirely fan owned, financed by more than 40,000 supporter memberships, with those members making key decisions such as the appointment of the chief executive and board. The rise into the Champions League has not been universally welcomed by fans, particularly given the choice of venue.

"When we got to the Bundesliga, there were fears the club might change, but no competition or player is bigger than the club.

"I am worried about the Champions League. It has changed our club. It is a big-money league with teams who in our opinion do not belong there - Manchester City, Newcastle, PSG, the marketing club from Leipzig.

"That is not our league, that's why I have mixed feelings. The Olympic stadium is not home."

Germany is a wonderful outlier in so many ways, Red Bull aside - much more geared to local fans than the other leagues. I know a big deal was made of Red Bull, but compared to the owners in most other countries they haven't been bad (although than their interclub relationship).

cardbuster · 09-20-2023, 08:12 AM

Oh come on, the Bundesliga is a money-maker, one-team-dominated show. Bayern holds all the cards, while the rest have their sappy stories of how clean and romantic they are. Bullcrap. If you're telling me that Union doesn't like the money and the attention they get from the Champions League, then I'm outta here.

YayNJ · 09-20-2023, 08:45 AM

German football will always retain a little 'romanticism' while it resists the plague of American and Middle Eastern owners.

Though David Blitzer has his little finger in Augsburg

Ianhatcher · 09-20-2023, 10:58 AM

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Congrats everyone. We found the only guy on the planet who doesn’t like their studio show

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Literally by far and away the most entertaining show to watch.....

How can you hate that crew with Thierry and Kate as well.

I said nothing about the show. I said I don't care for Jamie and Micah. How do both of you get that wrong?

I very much enjoy Henry's commentary and how can you not like Kate. I find Jamie's takes ridiculous and the only good thing about it is he pretty much has to eat his words all the time. Micah is just loud.

chiefs · 09-20-2023, 11:10 AM

One example I can give of the hypocrisy of it all is Germany continuing to use gazprom as a sponsor despite ruzzias invasion of Ukraine in 2014. It wasn't until the full scale invasion in 2022 that gazprom was dropped. Tell me again about the evil soda company from Austria.

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jmcca170 · 09-20-2023, 11:11 AM

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I said nothing about the show. I said I don't care for Jamie and Micah. How do both of you get that wrong?

I very much enjoy Henry's commentary and how can you not like Kate. I find Jamie's takes ridiculous and the only good thing about it is he pretty much has to eat his words all the time. Micah is just loud.

An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us

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Ianhatcher · 09-20-2023, 11:20 AM

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An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us

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Ok Paul Ryan.

YayNJ · 09-21-2023, 01:43 AM

Looks like Miami played Messi last night knowing he wasn't fit.

Now properly injured.

edit: also Alexi Lalas' recent outburst was just bizarre and ignorant - he suggests that Miami should have to advertise if Lionel Messi will be playing or not well in advance of Miami games so ultra-casuals and plastics don't get sad if they have to sit through the torture of a soccer game if Messi isn't playing. Yes, advertise your tactics and line-up to your opponents Alexi, that's it. It's football. Not an exhibit at a zoo.

mfw13 · 09-21-2023, 10:32 AM

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edit: also Alexi Lalas' recent outburst was just bizarre and ignorant - he suggests that Miami should have to advertise if Lionel Messi will be playing or not well in advance of Miami games so ultra-casuals and plastics don't get sad if they have to sit through the torture of a soccer game if Messi isn't playing.

It's not unreasonable given that prices for Miami matches have gone through the roof specifically because people want to see Messi play.

If you're paying $500 for a $50 ticket specifically to see Messi play, then wouldn't you be angry if he unexpectedly didn't play?

It's the same reason that the NBA is trying to reduce "load management"....people get pissed when they pay inflated ticket prices to see a superstar play and then he decides to "rest".

Your argument only makes sense if ticket prices for Messi games are the same as tickets for non-Messi games, which they most definitely are not.

YayNJ · 09-21-2023, 10:37 AM

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It's not unreasonable given that prices for Miami matches have gone through the roof specifically because people want to see Messi play.

It's completely unreasonable, and ludicrous. Miami are there to play football. Martino is there to manage, and Messi is there to play.

Advertising your starting line up a week before your next game is utterly ludicrous.

If people are paying to see one person and not a game of football - tough #@#@#@#@ing #@#@#@#@. It wouldn't happen anywhere else in the world, in any other league, infact it wouldn't get suggested.

yiguiri2002 · 09-21-2023, 10:57 AM

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It's not unreasonable given that prices for Miami matches have gone through the roof specifically because people want to see Messi play.

If you're paying $500 for a $50 ticket specifically to see Messi play, then wouldn't you be angry if he unexpectedly didn't play?

It's the same reason that the NBA is trying to reduce "load management"....people get pissed when they pay inflated ticket prices to see a superstar play and then he decides to "rest".

Your argument only makes sense if ticket prices for Messi games are the same as tickets for non-Messi games, which they most definitely are not.

Watching Messi play would have been extremely easy by now. You could have booked a plane ticket, a hotel for a night and a ticket for an Argentina friendly for what it costs to see Messi in the MLS.

Unless we are talking about kids or teenagers, I don't feel sorry for people missing on Messi. And it's completely different than the NBA situation IMO

09-19-2023, 11:03 AM	#203
cardbuster Member Join Date: Jul 2023 Location: Bucharest Posts: 69 cardbuster	CL 2023/2024 talks should go on here or will anyone open a new thread? Also, anyone else is playing CL Fantasy? Pretty nice prizes, a dedicated app, etc. __________________ Odds do not predict who will win. They predict who the public thinks will win.

09-20-2023, 08:12 AM	#216
cardbuster Member Join Date: Jul 2023 Location: Bucharest Posts: 69 cardbuster	Oh come on, the Bundesliga is a money-maker, one-team-dominated show. Bayern holds all the cards, while the rest have their sappy stories of how clean and romantic they are. Bullcrap. If you're telling me that Union doesn't like the money and the attention they get from the Champions League, then I'm outta here. __________________ Odds do not predict who will win. They predict who the public thinks will win.

09-20-2023, 08:45 AM	#217
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,264 hanelcocards	German football will always retain a little 'romanticism' while it resists the plague of American and Middle Eastern owners. Though David Blitzer has his little finger in Augsburg Last edited by YayNJ; 09-20-2023 at 08:48 AM.

09-21-2023, 01:43 AM	#222
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,264 hanelcocards	Looks like Miami played Messi last night knowing he wasn't fit. Now properly injured. edit: also Alexi Lalas' recent outburst was just bizarre and ignorant - he suggests that Miami should have to advertise if Lionel Messi will be playing or not well in advance of Miami games so ultra-casuals and plastics don't get sad if they have to sit through the torture of a soccer game if Messi isn't playing. Yes, advertise your tactics and line-up to your opponents Alexi, that's it. It's football. Not an exhibit at a zoo. Last edited by YayNJ; 09-21-2023 at 04:14 AM.

09-19-2023, 07:08 AM	#201
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,264 hanelcocards	A Newcastle fan has been stabbed in Milan

09-19-2023, 11:53 AM	#204
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,264 hanelcocards	Just keep it in here. There's only like six of us.

09-19-2023, 03:01 PM	#205
Ianhatcher Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 1,956 ian5555	Another year of having to listen to Micah Richards and Jamie Carragher run their yaps. uggh...

09-19-2023, 04:06 PM	#207
Ianhatcher Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 1,956 ian5555	The Lazio goal by Provedel on the last play...what a play from a GK!

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kobewhite Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Chicago Posts: 279 chi_orange_cards	How about Joao Felix.... Having quite the season since joining a good team.

09-20-2023, 01:07 AM	#213
CiaranGQ Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Posts: 142	Manchester City fans taunting Red Star Belgrade fans last night with chants of, “Champions of Europe; you’ll never sing that”. Ignorance and arrogance of certain modern fans summed up in just seven words.

09-20-2023, 11:10 AM	#219
chiefs Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,392 chiefs	One example I can give of the hypocrisy of it all is Germany continuing to use gazprom as a sponsor despite ruzzias invasion of Ukraine in 2014. It wasn't until the full scale invasion in 2022 that gazprom was dropped. Tell me again about the evil soda company from Austria. Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk