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Old 10-02-2023, 12:10 PM   #51
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I’ll admit I did not but even still if he leaked the news it’s weird for people to be ranting about Curt Schilling in a thread about a beloved knuckleballer passing away far too young. But hey people love to be outraged and rant as opposed to being positive.
Maybe stop bringing it up?
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F*** cancer and F*** Curt Schilling
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Old 10-02-2023, 01:45 PM   #53
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Tim was from Melbourne, FL, where I lived a good part of my life. He meant so much to this community as well and was already giving back before he was well-known. I know this is long, so I apologize, but here’s an excerpt from the local paper.

“He was an inspiration to the kids at the Space Coast Early Intervention Center (now called Space Coast Discovery)in Melbourne, where he helped raise more than $5 million from his own donations and from 25 years as host of a celebrity golf tournament at Suntree Country Club, where celebrities from all walks of life played and donated items to be auctioned.

As a high school student, Wakefield took advantage of the opportunity to volunteer at the Early Intervention Center. He was so amazed at the services they provided to their students that he made a commitment to the founder, Betsy Farmer, that he would help.

"You have no idea what he meant," said an emotional Farmer, trying to fight back tears. "There would not be a Space Coast Early Intervention Center without him. I've known Tim for many years, and he promised that once he made it to the big leagues, he would help. And he kept that promise.

"The first year he made it with the Pirates, he already was planning the Tim Wakefield Celebrity Golf Tournament."”


Even though I’m not too far behind him in age, I still aspire to be even half the man that he was off the field.


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Old 10-02-2023, 02:41 PM   #54
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I hope the other members of your family carry the same class as you do.
Yea I hope one day I can be considered as classy as *checks notes* Curt Schilling? If you're defending that guy, you need to do some serious self reflection.

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Old 10-02-2023, 02:45 PM   #55
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Prayers go out to his family - I remember trying to throw a knuckleball just like him in Little League growing up.
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Old 10-02-2023, 02:50 PM   #56
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Wakefield was 11-3 when he made his only All-Star Game in 2009, becoming the second-oldest player — to Satchel Paige — ever selected to his first All-Star Game. Wakefield was the oldest player in baseball at 45 when he earned his 200th win in September of 2011, retiring his final six batters.

He announced his retirement the following spring training, seven wins short of breaking the franchise record for wins held by Clemens and Young.

“I’m still a competitor, but ultimately I think this is what’s best for the Red Sox,” he said at the time. “I think this is what’s best for my family. And to be honest with you, seven wins isn’t going to make me a different person or a better man.”

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Old 10-02-2023, 03:01 PM   #57
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R.I.P.

Was always fun to watch him pitch. Even if it was just an ESPN highlight from a random game in June.
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RIP Tim

Obv this is very saddening for the Wakefield family, but I'm not sure I completely understand the hate towards Schilling.

He did what he thought was best for them — wanting people to pray for them — and it was obviously a dire situation being that it was only four days ago.

Maybe I missing something, I dunno...
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Old 10-02-2023, 03:43 PM   #59
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RIP Tim

Obv this is very saddening for the Wakefield family, but I'm not sure I completely understand the hate towards Schilling.

He did what he thought was best for them — wanting people to pray for them — and it was obviously a dire situation being that it was only four days ago.

Maybe I missing something, I dunno...
It wasn't something the family wanted shared
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Old 10-02-2023, 03:46 PM   #60
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RIP Tim.
I loved watching him pitch as I was one of very few people I'd ever met that could throw a knuckler!
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Old 10-02-2023, 03:48 PM   #61
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It wasn't something the family wanted shared
Yeah, I get that, but how did Curt know?

If he knew bc he was close to the fam then I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision for him but it was something he felt had to be done.

It's a tough situation but I'm not sure we need to stone him for it.
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Old 10-02-2023, 03:51 PM   #62
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RIP Tim

Obv this is very saddening for the Wakefield family, but I'm not sure I completely understand the hate towards Schilling.

He did what he thought was best for them — wanting people to pray for them — and it was obviously a dire situation being that it was only four days ago.

Maybe I missing something, I dunno...
I'll be polite and say you are very fortunate to have never had the burden of informing friends, family or the public of a loved one's terminal illness.

That was extremely sensitive, and private, information that the family didn't want to be public. They wanted to grieve and come to terms with his diagnosis and death in private. He took that from them.
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Yeah, I get that, but how did Curt know?

If he knew bc he was close to the fam then I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision for him but it was something he felt had to be done.

It's a tough situation but I'm not sure we need to stone him for it.

I mean he acknowledged he didn't know if Tim would want it shared and did it anyway. That's just not something you share for the world..it's very insensitive
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Old 10-02-2023, 03:52 PM   #64
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Yeah, I get that, but how did Curt know?



If he knew bc he was close to the fam then I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision for him but it was something he felt had to be done.



It's a tough situation but I'm not sure we need to stone him for it.
Oh come on. Real ez. If they didnt share it why would he think its ok for him to??

Cuz he's a grade A dbag.

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Old 10-02-2023, 03:59 PM   #65
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I mean he acknowledged he didn't know if Tim would want it shared and did it anyway. That's just not something you share for the world..it's very insensitive
True.

Like I said, tough situation all around.
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Old 10-02-2023, 04:02 PM   #66
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Oh come on. Real ez. If they didnt share it why would he think its ok for him to??

Cuz he's a grade A dbag.
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“This is not a message that Tim has asked anyone to share, and I don’t even know if he wants it shared,” he said.

“But as a Christian, and as a man of faith, I have seen prayer work, so I am going to talk about it.”
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Old 10-02-2023, 04:10 PM   #67
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Yeah, I get that, but how did Curt know?

If he knew bc he was close to the fam then I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision for him but it was something he felt had to be done.

It's a tough situation but I'm not sure we need to stone him for it.
Plain and simple: it wasn't his place. The family didn't want it leaked, but he went out of his way to do it anyway - most likely to create content for his podcast and NOT out of good will.

If this had happened to me, the same reaction toward whoever leaked the info would ensue and I would never be able to trust them again or remain their friend. I'm sure the same would be the case for many other people.
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Old 10-02-2023, 04:30 PM   #68
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Plain and simple: it wasn't his place. The family didn't want it leaked, but he went out of his way to do it anyway - most likely to create content for his podcast and NOT out of good will.

If this had happened to me, the same reaction toward whoever leaked the info would ensue and I would never be able to trust them again or remain their friend. I'm sure the same would be the case for many other people.
I'm not saying it was right of him to do it. I get that part. And if it was just for content purposes, sure, absolutely not cool at all.

But only He knows what the his true intentions were and will surely deal with it on His terms.

I just hate to think it was done with crass intentions. He may be a Dbag but a sinister Dbag, I'm not so sure.

I've just been watching a lot of "The Chosen" lately so I'm just trying not to judge and hate as much as I used to.

Honestly, only good intentions here. Not trying to rile anyone up.
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I'm not saying it was right of him to do it. I get that part. And if it was just for content purposes, sure, absolutely not cool at all.

But only He knows what the his true intentions were and will surely deal with it on His terms.

I just hate to think it was done with crass intentions. He may be a Dbag but a sinister Dbag, I'm not so sure.

I've just been watching a lot of "The Chosen" lately so I'm just trying not to judge and hate as much as I used to.

Honestly, only good intentions here. Not trying to rile anyone up.
I get where you're coming from. But it's very hard to give someone like Schilling the benefit of the doubt, given his track record. Even if he did it to encourage 'prayers', as he said, it's still hard for me to determine whether he was sincere, or if he did it for podcast content.

There are many other athletes who, if they did the same thing, I could trust did it with anything but crass intentions (even if it still would be wrong of them to do). Schilling is not one of those people.
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Old 10-02-2023, 08:52 PM   #70
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I like my few Tim Wakefield cards. Easy favorite:

[IMG] 2010 Topps National Chicle - [Base] #22 - Tim Wakefield Courtesy of COMC.com[/IMG]
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Old 10-02-2023, 10:56 PM   #71
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Young Tim:


And here's a fun print Tim did for charity in 2010 with Warner Brothers' Looney Tunes and the story behind it:

https://nesn.com/2010/09/tim-wakefie...oney-for-kids/
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Old 10-02-2023, 11:06 PM   #72
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Yea I hope one day I can be considered as classy as *checks notes* Curt Schilling? If you're defending that guy, you need to do some serious self reflection.
Your choice of words when someone passes away tells me exactly what you are. If I'm reading right this thread was referring to Tim Wakefield's passing nothing about Schilling. I guess Schilling must have had it out with the Beauch household at some point.
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I still remember this one, not because I watched it, but because I heard the pitch count at some later point. 172. He went 10 innings for the win, throwing 172 pitches.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/b...99304270.shtml

I'm certain there have been more pitches thrown in a game by a pitcher before, but this was not one of those 15 inning duels from the 1940s that I'd read about in Today in Baseball in the newspaper. This had just happened (when I first heard of it).

https://www.mlb.com/news/nolan-ryan-...es-in-one-game

"Full pitch count data dates to 1988, making Tim Wakefield’s 172-pitch, 10-plus-inning start for the Pirates against the Braves on April 27, 1993, the most exhaustive effort “on record.”"
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RIP Tim

Obv this is very saddening for the Wakefield family, but I'm not sure I completely understand the hate towards Schilling.

He did what he thought was best for them — wanting people to pray for them — and it was obviously a dire situation being that it was only four days ago.

Maybe I missing something, I dunno...
It was noble for Schilling to want to pray for the Wakefield family. The problem is that they did not want this going public. It was not his place to put it out there. It came off as a way to draw attention to himself. Read up on Schilling and maybe you will see why he is so very disliked by so many people. This was just one incident. There are many more.
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I'll be polite and say you are very fortunate to have never had the burden of informing friends, family or the public of a loved one's terminal illness.

That was extremely sensitive, and private, information that the family didn't want to be public. They wanted to grieve and come to terms with his diagnosis and death in private. He took that from them.
This exactly... ^^^^^
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