Caleb Williams: The Next Mahomes?

TheFrenzy · 10-14-2023, 10:34 PM

I realize he had an awful 3-interception performance tonight against Notre Dame, but he's still going to go #1 overall and be anointed the next generational QB.

Considering Mahomes' Red Raiders only went 13-19 with Patty at the helm and only made it into the top 10 of his respective draft class by the skin of his teeth, can we say that—for where he's at—Williams is ahead of Mahomes?

Fenway55 · 10-14-2023, 10:42 PM

Williams is a better college QB than Mahomes was, but that doesn't even remotely mean it will translate into the NFL. Tim Tebow was a far better college QB than either of 'em, look at his NFL career.

TheFrenzy · 10-14-2023, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway55

Williams is a better college QB than Mahomes was, but that doesn't even remotely mean it will translate into the NFL.

Shhhhh........This is a win/win thread for me regardless of how Williams' career actually plays out.

AwesomeBrian · 10-14-2023, 10:46 PM

Kyler Murray 2.0

TheFrenzy · 10-14-2023, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AwesomeBrian

Kyler Murray 2.0

...........

Williams is two feet taller than Murray.

escapegoat · 10-14-2023, 10:51 PM

do you think you could go a whole month without creating a thread on BO?

TheFrenzy · 10-14-2023, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by escapegoat

do you think you could go a whole month without creating a thread on BO?

Pay me.

Or take a seat.

EBCollectibles · 10-14-2023, 11:04 PM

Drake Maye best QB in college.

TheFrenzy · 10-14-2023, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

Drake Maye best QB in college.

I've heard he's the next Hebert.

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Originally Posted by SDcardguy24

Williams the next Mahomes and Maye the next Herbert

Bergkamp11 · 10-14-2023, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by escapegoat

do you think you could go a whole month without creating a thread on BO?

A whole month?

. He'd be lucky to go half a day

TheFrenzy · 10-14-2023, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bergkamp11

A whole month?

. He'd be lucky to go half a day

It's actually flattering that you used your post for this month on me.

ThatGuyPal · 10-14-2023, 11:17 PM

Who is the Caleb William in the poll? Can't vote as I don't know that guy

Fenway55 · 10-14-2023, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Shhhhh........This is a win/win thread for me regardless of how Williams' career actually plays out.

TheFrenzy · 10-14-2023, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

Who is the Caleb William in the poll? Can't vote as I don't know that guy

Mahomes = plural

William = singular

Because there can only be one GOAT.

EBCollectibles · 10-14-2023, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by escapegoat

do you think you could go a whole month without creating a thread on BO?

We have a better chance in seeing tonedef2008 getting his 1ST Itrader in 14 years on here.

TheFrenzy · 10-14-2023, 11:23 PM

majestik101 · 10-15-2023, 01:03 AM

Cute thread.

I have Drake Maye going #1.

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Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

Drake Maye best QB in college.

I can't believe I'm in agreement with EB Games

jplarson · 10-15-2023, 01:36 AM

49ersSF · 10-15-2023, 03:42 AM

The problem for Caleb is that he is a USC QB. There has not been a lot of success for USC QB's in the NFL.

Sam Darnold 1st round
Cody Kessler 3rd round
Matt Barkley 4th round
Mark Sanchez 1st round
Matt Leinhart 1st round
Carson Palmer 1st round
Rob Johnson 4th round
Todd Marinovich 1st round
Rodney Peete 6th round

Some colleges simply do not offer good transitions to the NFL for QB's. Notre Dame is probably the worst offender since 1980.

Steve Beuerlein 4th Round
Rick Mirer 1st Round
Brady Quinn 1st Round
Jimmy Clausen 2nd Round
Deshone Kizer 2nd Round
Ian Book 4th Round

Floridacardguy · 10-15-2023, 05:27 AM

Barring a monumental collapse, Williams is going number one- period.
Will he be as good as Mahomes, who knows? Sometimes first overall QB’s bust.

sportzluvr1 · 10-15-2023, 05:42 AM

Bears will screw it up

EBCollectibles · 10-15-2023, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by majestik101

Cute thread.

I have Drake Maye going #1.

I can't believe I'm in agreement with EB Games

Oh lord. This is so strange.

JoinerCP · 10-15-2023, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 49ersSF

The problem for Caleb is that he is a USC QB. There has not been a lot of success for USC QB's in the NFL.

Sam Darnold 1st round
Cody Kessler 3rd round
Matt Barkley 4th round
Mark Sanchez 1st round
Matt Leinhart 1st round
Carson Palmer 1st round
Rob Johnson 4th round
Todd Marinovich 1st round
Rodney Peete 6th round

Some colleges simply do not offer good transitions to the NFL for QB's. Notre Dame is probably the worst offender since 1980.

Steve Beuerlein 4th Round
Rick Mirer 1st Round
Brady Quinn 1st Round
Jimmy Clausen 2nd Round
Deshone Kizer 2nd Round
Ian Book 4th Round

Wait, I'm confused. ND had 2 - 1st rounders, 2 - 2nd rounders and 2 - 4th rounders and they are the worst offenders since 1980?

Just above you posted 5 - 1st round busts for USC, all within your 1980 criteria. Most are way more recent.....

And I think most teams fail to produce good NFL QBs. Williams had no chance last night but I still think he's an incredibly dangerous player. He has a really strong arm and can make some ridiculous throws. He rarely relies on running unless he has to.

I think his odds have to be as high as any QB in the last 2-3 years to make the transition and become a starter. Not sure about transcendent, possible.

Drake Maye is an interesting prospect with good numbers but I haven't watched any of his games this year. There are a lot of people pushing him so might be worth a flyer as a collector.

ThatGuyPal · 10-15-2023, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Mahomes = plural

William = singular

Because there can only be one GOAT.

Understandable, carry on

oldgoldy97 · 10-15-2023, 08:20 AM

Keep the Willia hype going so the Vikes have a shot at the Drake.

View Poll Results: You're starting a franchise from scratch, who do you pick?
Caleb William	16	8.94%
Patrick Mahomes	163	91.06%
Voters: 179. You may not vote on this poll

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TheFrenzy Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Texan in AZ Posts: 44,115	Caleb Williams: The Next Mahomes? I realize he had an awful 3-interception performance tonight against Notre Dame, but he's still going to go #1 overall and be anointed the next generational QB. Considering Mahomes' Red Raiders only went 13-19 with Patty at the helm and only made it into the top 10 of his respective draft class by the skin of his teeth, can we say that—for where he's at—Williams is ahead of Mahomes?

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Fenway55 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 7,265	Williams is a better college QB than Mahomes was, but that doesn't even remotely mean it will translate into the NFL. Tim Tebow was a far better college QB than either of 'em, look at his NFL career.

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Floridacardguy Member Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 11,447	Barring a monumental collapse, Williams is going number one- period. Will he be as good as Mahomes, who knows? Sometimes first overall QB’s bust.