James Harden to the Clippers - A Halloween Special

[The Accountant]

Late night breaking news. 76ers agree to terms to send Harden to the Clippers to pair up with Kawhi and George. No details available yet.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1719233117100142839

[ninjacookies]

Spearmint Rhino's open til 4.

Should make it just in time before last call.

[Ferg1945]

Good for Harden.

He's never really been on a good team. I hope he finds happiness in Los Angeles.

[Siberian13]

What a mess that was. At least they got rid of him finally. Now all 3 can be injured together on the Clippers.

[rustywest]

[kingofsnake]

Underwhelming return for the Sixers. As always, James gets what he wants.

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Spearmint Rhino's open til 4.

Should make it just in time before last call.

I was wondering why there were fireworks on Halloween.

Strippers are celebrating like they just won the Super Bowl.

[rustywest]

As a Clipper fan, I strongly dislike this - actually, I'm pretty gutted. I liked our team, there was clear chemistry brewing and they had the optimal balance of star and role play. Russ had found the perfect role setting the table and Bones was developing nicely as the backup ballhandler. Lue had finally addressed the elephant from last season, reversing DNP's betweeb RoCo and Morris Sr, with RoCo's hands and activity making an immediate impact. The team was playing D and the only real flaw (other than health) in the roster was rebounding/size in the front-court which Utah exposed badly on offensive glass. So they went ahead and made the team smaller and worse on D, leading me into the dreaded conclusion here comes more small-ball lineups.

The Clippers were flying under the radar and I liked that. - Now we have heaped unnecessary scrutiny and large amounts of pressure on the squad. When was the last time 4 stars made it work? Older stars too... it just doesn't bode well in today's fast paced NBA.

I don't enjoy Harden's style of play, and I don't think many of his teammates do either. His usage, his dribble dribble dribble step back 3. The foul-baiting. His laziness on D, giving up on plays etc. and everybody knows about the well documented off-court ethic - That sh*t's just not conducive to keeping the body in optimal shape.

Russ and Harden made it work in Houston, but that's because there weren't 2 other stars to feed.

Perhaps in the alternate universe from what mainstream media portrays, Harden has agreed to become the super 6 man reminiscent of the OKC tenure. Less minutes, more effort on D. Just like the way Russ has sacrificed and evolved unselfishly for the benefit of his team. CP3 is another example, Harden needs to follow suit. Don't be like LeBron, who at 39 selfishly refuses to sacrifice for his team because of his own personal goals (hence why the Lakers are the league biggest pretenders.) Harden taking sacrifice, if that manifests I can see a positive path forward... actually somewhat hopeful thinking about his friendship with Russ, the 4 SoCal guys together but not exactly holding my breath.

So thinking about some positives, they didn't give up Mann and the OFFENSIVE FIREPOWER on this team is off the charts. In my opinion there is more firepower here then Phoenix. Take a look - PG, Whi, Harden, Russ, Norm, Bones. The other BIG positive is something I'm not wanting at all but tremendous insurance for often injured stars. If one of the big 4 is injured, the team isn't going to skip a beat and could in all likelihood perform better in some combinations of the 3.

A couple words on the outgoing guys, RoCo is a huge loss. Completely under utilized and underrated as a extremely versatile, switchable defender with a big motor. Long arms and great hands. A perfect glue guy for that team. Replaced by an aging Tucker. I haven't watched him closely for a couple years, but I'm guessing isn't the impactful defender he once was. Anybody got the solid intel on PJ's form? Again, I'm guessing we are going to see plenty of the dreaded small ball lineups with him at 5 and the team leaking crucial offensive rebounds.

Batum is looking real old, but a very smart player and a great locker room vet. Sad to see him gone. Still very serviceable and versatile in limited minutes.

Morris seems cooked, was dead-weight at this point but by other accounts was a great troop for the Clippers in previous seasons (last year not withstanding).

KJ looked rough but wasn't really given much of a chance to run on the 2nd unit.

Filip Petrusev? Never heard of him.

Feel better getting that out, but it soured my day completely. This move is directly going to effect the way Russ and Bones had been carving out roles. Bones also has a track record of throwing toys out of the cot when things go south. Hopefully I'm wrong and these guys figure it out. It just hurts me inside because the team was developing a genuine identity and Harden's track record just doesn't fit with that? Less D more O. More stars, less roll the sleeve up dirty workers. Much increased off ball movement from everybody (stars included) - last I recall Harden is an absolute statue off ball. Its not the way I'd prefer to construct a roster but they went and did it!

I wonder if Harden will be ready for the back end of the upcoming back 2 back vs the Lakers?

[Moneychrome20]

Originally Posted by rustywest

As a Clipper fan, I strongly dislike this - actually, I'm pretty gutted. I liked our team, there was clear chemistry brewing and they had the optimal balance of star and role play. Russ had found the perfect role setting the table and Bones was developing nicely as the backup ballhandler. Lue had finally addressed the elephant from last season, reversing DNP's betweeb RoCo and Morris Sr, with RoCo's hands and activity making an immediate impact. The team was playing D and the only real flaw (other than health) in the roster was rebounding/size in the front-court which Utah exposed badly on offensive glass. So they went ahead and made the team smaller and worse on D, leading me into the dreaded conclusion here comes more small-ball lineups.

The Clippers were flying under the radar and I liked that. - Now we have heaped unnecessary scrutiny and large amounts of pressure on the squad. When was the last time 4 stars made it work? Older stars too... it just doesn't bode well in today's fast paced NBA.

I don't enjoy Harden's style of play, and I don't think many of his teammates do either. His usage, his dribble dribble dribble step back 3. The foul-baiting. His laziness on D, giving up on plays etc. and everybody knows about the well documented off-court ethic - That sh*t's just not conducive to keeping the body in optimal shape.

Russ and Harden made it work in Houston, but that's because there weren't 2 other stars to feed.

Perhaps in the alternate universe from what mainstream media portrays, Harden has agreed to become the super 6 man reminiscent of the OKC tenure. Less minutes, more effort on D. Just like the way Russ has sacrificed and evolved unselfishly for the benefit of his team. CP3 is another example, Harden needs to follow suit. Don't be like LeBron, who at 39 selfishly refuses to sacrifice for his team because of his own personal goals (hence why the Lakers are the league biggest pretenders.) Harden taking sacrifice, if that manifests I can see a positive path forward... actually somewhat hopeful thinking about his friendship with Russ, the 4 SoCal guys together but not exactly holding my breath.

So thinking about some positives, they didn't give up Mann and the OFFENSIVE FIREPOWER on this team is off the charts. In my opinion there is more firepower here then Phoenix. Take a look - PG, Whi, Harden, Russ, Norm, Bones. The other BIG positive is something I'm not wanting at all but tremendous insurance for often injured stars. If one of the big 4 is injured, the team isn't going to skip a beat and could in all likelihood perform better in some combinations of the 3.

A couple words on the outgoing guys, RoCo is a huge loss. Completely under utilized and underrated as a extremely versatile, switchable defender with a big motor. Long arms and great hands. A perfect glue guy for that team. Replaced by an aging Tucker. I haven't watched him closely for a couple years, but I'm guessing isn't the impactful defender he once was. Anybody got the solid intel on PJ's form? Again, I'm guessing we are going to see plenty of the dreaded small ball lineups with him at 5 and the team leaking crucial offensive rebounds.

Batum is looking real old, but a very smart player and a great locker room vet. Sad to see him gone. Still very serviceable and versatile in limited minutes.

Morris seems cooked, was dead-weight at this point but by other accounts was a great troop for the Clippers in previous seasons (last year not withstanding).

KJ looked rough but wasn't really given much of a chance to run on the 2nd unit.

Filip Petrusev? Never heard of him.

Feel better getting that out, but it soured my day completely. This move is directly going to effect the way Russ and Bones had been carving out roles. Bones also has a track record of throwing toys out of the cot when things go south. Hopefully I'm wrong and these guys figure it out. It just hurts me inside because the team was developing a genuine identity and Harden's track record just doesn't fit with that? Less D more O. More stars, less roll the sleeve up dirty workers. Much increased off ball movement from everybody (stars included) - last I recall Harden is an absolute statue off ball. Its not the way I'd prefer to construct a roster but they went and did it!

I wonder if Harden will be ready for the back end of the upcoming back 2 back vs the Lakers?

What a huge blob of nonsense for lack of better words

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by rustywest

As a Clipper fan,

Wait..... what?

You're a Clippers fan?

[packman80]

Harden a guy who's been living on name alone the last 5 seasons. Has not average over 25 points a game nor played even in 60 games in any season in that span. Past his prime and overpaid.

[Moneychrome20]

Originally Posted by packman80

Harden a guy who's been living on name alone the last 5 seasons. Has not average over 25 points a game nor played even in 60 games in any season in that span. Past his prime and overpaid.

Your argument lost all credibility within seconds because he has average over 25 within last 5 seasons and just led the nba in assist last year



Do you even look stuff up before you type

Obviously not

[KhalDrogo]

Where are all the people who said Morey was a genius? What a dope.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by rustywest

As a Clipper fan, I strongly dislike this - actually, I'm pretty gutted. I liked our team, there was clear chemistry brewing and they had the optimal balance of star and role play. Russ had found the perfect role setting the table and Bones was developing nicely as the backup ballhandler. Lue had finally addressed the elephant from last season, reversing DNP's betweeb RoCo and Morris Sr, with RoCo's hands and activity making an immediate impact. The team was playing D and the only real flaw (other than health) in the roster was rebounding/size in the front-court which Utah exposed badly on offensive glass. So they went ahead and made the team smaller and worse on D, leading me into the dreaded conclusion here comes more small-ball lineups.

The Clippers were flying under the radar and I liked that. - Now we have heaped unnecessary scrutiny and large amounts of pressure on the squad. When was the last time 4 stars made it work? Older stars too... it just doesn't bode well in today's fast paced NBA.

I don't enjoy Harden's style of play, and I don't think many of his teammates do either. His usage, his dribble dribble dribble step back 3. The foul-baiting. His laziness on D, giving up on plays etc. and everybody knows about the well documented off-court ethic - That sh*t's just not conducive to keeping the body in optimal shape.

Russ and Harden made it work in Houston, but that's because there weren't 2 other stars to feed.

Perhaps in the alternate universe from what mainstream media portrays, Harden has agreed to become the super 6 man reminiscent of the OKC tenure. Less minutes, more effort on D. Just like the way Russ has sacrificed and evolved unselfishly for the benefit of his team. CP3 is another example, Harden needs to follow suit. Don't be like LeBron, who at 39 selfishly refuses to sacrifice for his team because of his own personal goals (hence why the Lakers are the league biggest pretenders.) Harden taking sacrifice, if that manifests I can see a positive path forward... actually somewhat hopeful thinking about his friendship with Russ, the 4 SoCal guys together but not exactly holding my breath.

So thinking about some positives, they didn't give up Mann and the OFFENSIVE FIREPOWER on this team is off the charts. In my opinion there is more firepower here then Phoenix. Take a look - PG, Whi, Harden, Russ, Norm, Bones. The other BIG positive is something I'm not wanting at all but tremendous insurance for often injured stars. If one of the big 4 is injured, the team isn't going to skip a beat and could in all likelihood perform better in some combinations of the 3.

A couple words on the outgoing guys, RoCo is a huge loss. Completely under utilized and underrated as a extremely versatile, switchable defender with a big motor. Long arms and great hands. A perfect glue guy for that team. Replaced by an aging Tucker. I haven't watched him closely for a couple years, but I'm guessing isn't the impactful defender he once was. Anybody got the solid intel on PJ's form? Again, I'm guessing we are going to see plenty of the dreaded small ball lineups with him at 5 and the team leaking crucial offensive rebounds.

Batum is looking real old, but a very smart player and a great locker room vet. Sad to see him gone. Still very serviceable and versatile in limited minutes.

Morris seems cooked, was dead-weight at this point but by other accounts was a great troop for the Clippers in previous seasons (last year not withstanding).

KJ looked rough but wasn't really given much of a chance to run on the 2nd unit.

Filip Petrusev? Never heard of him.

Feel better getting that out, but it soured my day completely. This move is directly going to effect the way Russ and Bones had been carving out roles. Bones also has a track record of throwing toys out of the cot when things go south. Hopefully I'm wrong and these guys figure it out. It just hurts me inside because the team was developing a genuine identity and Harden's track record just doesn't fit with that? Less D more O. More stars, less roll the sleeve up dirty workers. Much increased off ball movement from everybody (stars included) - last I recall Harden is an absolute statue off ball. Its not the way I'd prefer to construct a roster but they went and did it!

I wonder if Harden will be ready for the back end of the upcoming back 2 back vs the Lakers?

Great write up.

[PKIPP]

Originally Posted by packman80

Harden a guy who's been living on name alone the last 5 seasons. Has not average over 25 points a game nor played even in 60 games in any season in that span. Past his prime and overpaid.

I mean either way you want to look at this, you just flat out lied for the sake of your own personal vendetta.. He played 65 in 2021-22 and averaged 34+ in 2019-20.


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[PKIPP]

To be honest this gives me 1998 NWO vibes, and I totally dig it.




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[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by rustywest

As a Clipper fan, I strongly dislike this - actually, I'm pretty gutted. I liked our team, there was clear chemistry brewing and they had the optimal balance of star and role play. Russ had found the perfect role setting the table and Bones was developing nicely as the backup ballhandler. Lue had finally addressed the elephant from last season, reversing DNP's betweeb RoCo and Morris Sr, with RoCo's hands and activity making an immediate impact. The team was playing D and the only real flaw (other than health) in the roster was rebounding/size in the front-court which Utah exposed badly on offensive glass. So they went ahead and made the team smaller and worse on D, leading me into the dreaded conclusion here comes more small-ball lineups.

The Clippers were flying under the radar and I liked that. - Now we have heaped unnecessary scrutiny and large amounts of pressure on the squad. When was the last time 4 stars made it work? Older stars too... it just doesn't bode well in today's fast paced NBA.

I don't enjoy Harden's style of play, and I don't think many of his teammates do either. His usage, his dribble dribble dribble step back 3. The foul-baiting. His laziness on D, giving up on plays etc. and everybody knows about the well documented off-court ethic - That sh*t's just not conducive to keeping the body in optimal shape.

Russ and Harden made it work in Houston, but that's because there weren't 2 other stars to feed.

Perhaps in the alternate universe from what mainstream media portrays, Harden has agreed to become the super 6 man reminiscent of the OKC tenure. Less minutes, more effort on D. Just like the way Russ has sacrificed and evolved unselfishly for the benefit of his team. CP3 is another example, Harden needs to follow suit. Don't be like LeBron, who at 39 selfishly refuses to sacrifice for his team because of his own personal goals (hence why the Lakers are the league biggest pretenders.) Harden taking sacrifice, if that manifests I can see a positive path forward... actually somewhat hopeful thinking about his friendship with Russ, the 4 SoCal guys together but not exactly holding my breath.

So thinking about some positives, they didn't give up Mann and the OFFENSIVE FIREPOWER on this team is off the charts. In my opinion there is more firepower here then Phoenix. Take a look - PG, Whi, Harden, Russ, Norm, Bones. The other BIG positive is something I'm not wanting at all but tremendous insurance for often injured stars. If one of the big 4 is injured, the team isn't going to skip a beat and could in all likelihood perform better in some combinations of the 3.

A couple words on the outgoing guys, RoCo is a huge loss. Completely under utilized and underrated as a extremely versatile, switchable defender with a big motor. Long arms and great hands. A perfect glue guy for that team. Replaced by an aging Tucker. I haven't watched him closely for a couple years, but I'm guessing isn't the impactful defender he once was. Anybody got the solid intel on PJ's form? Again, I'm guessing we are going to see plenty of the dreaded small ball lineups with him at 5 and the team leaking crucial offensive rebounds.

Batum is looking real old, but a very smart player and a great locker room vet. Sad to see him gone. Still very serviceable and versatile in limited minutes.

Morris seems cooked, was dead-weight at this point but by other accounts was a great troop for the Clippers in previous seasons (last year not withstanding).

KJ looked rough but wasn't really given much of a chance to run on the 2nd unit.

Filip Petrusev? Never heard of him.

Feel better getting that out, but it soured my day completely. This move is directly going to effect the way Russ and Bones had been carving out roles. Bones also has a track record of throwing toys out of the cot when things go south. Hopefully I'm wrong and these guys figure it out. It just hurts me inside because the team was developing a genuine identity and Harden's track record just doesn't fit with that? Less D more O. More stars, less roll the sleeve up dirty workers. Much increased off ball movement from everybody (stars included) - last I recall Harden is an absolute statue off ball. Its not the way I'd prefer to construct a roster but they went and did it!

I wonder if Harden will be ready for the back end of the upcoming back 2 back vs the Lakers?

These are definitely words

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

These are definitely words

He lasted two whole sentences before making it about Russ. A personal record.

[brothertona]

He even tossed in a Lebron jab, quite impressive.

[mjekase]

Originally Posted by kingofsnake

Underwhelming return for the Sixers. As always, James gets what he wants.

Big picture, it's a solid haul for the sake of flexibility. Expiring contracts gives them a ton of space next summer, and a good number of picks to use in future deals. I'd like to think Martin is going to stick around, as he'd be a great fit in Nurse's system (and only 22). But he may get moved for something else.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

He lasted two whole sentences before making it about Russ. A personal record.

you made it farther than I did

[cowboyfaninlr]

As a Sixer fan I'm so glad the cancer that is James Harden is gone...GL Clipper fans

[XSidneyX]

Originally Posted by cowboyfaninlr

As a Sixer fan I'm so glad the cancer that is James Harden is gone...GL Clipper fans

same....dude is a bum at this point. Total cancer and glad to see him go. Maxey is playing just fine anyway.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

you made it farther than I did

Yeah, I wanted to see how far in it was before he brought his guy up.


Then I stopped.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by XSidneyX

same....dude is a bum at this point. Total cancer and glad to see him go. Maxey is playing just fine anyway.

And yet there's still another team that thinks he will change once he comes to their team.

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