Michigan Cheating Scandal - Jim Harbaugh

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by BonVoyage

On the flip side, if UM doesn't win then the last two years get completely discredited.

Related - why are UM fans talking about win 1000? Wins will be vacated because of this.

Originally Posted by asujbl

Going back to 1991 is a bold move in this situation

The icons of brilliance, a subject matter from 1991 is antiquated but the rule of spying on opposing sidelines happens to be from 1994. Wouldn’t you know, the members who dislike Harbaugh want to utilize this as a modern day rule violation punishable by those who control the power and wealth. Looks like a repeat of our history. If this were a elite person, they would have it be laughed off the news.

Just for Pete’s sake, use the portal like Harbaugh and Sanders, ok.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Stifle

The icons of brilliance, a subject matter from 1991 is antiquated but the rule of spying on opposing sidelines happens to be from 1994. Wouldn’t you know, the members who dislike Harbaugh want to utilize this as a modern day rule violation punishable by those who control the power and wealth. Looks like a repeat of our history. If this were a elite person, they would have it be laughed off the news.

Just for Pete’s sake, use the portal like Harbaugh and Sanders, ok.

A - you love the word antiquated
B - why did you capitalize Pete? Who is he?
C - how long have you been banging Deion?
D - now I know you’re trolling

[CarmenOhio]

Ohio State will do what the NCAA cannot realistically do without violating its own due process rules: prevent Michigan from playing in the Playoffs.

[apb4]

Originally Posted by Grid

That's like firing the head of Disney, because he didn't know the popcorn cart guy at Animal Kingdom was stealing balloons.

Haven't you ready anything Hairy and Nerdby have been posting? Harbaugh knew nothing. They cant fire a guy, and break his contract, for not knowing about something!

The guy selling popcorn is likely not also sitting in meetings or working closely with the CEO of Disney. Here we have evidence that Stallions was in contact with both coordinators and even Harbaugh. To think Jimmy never asked what a recruiting analyst was doing working closely with your top dogs during a game is just hard to believe. Did he think Stallions was giving Minter and Moore updates on the offensive tackle they were recruiting out of Texas? Come on man he knew what he was there for as did the entire staff. Besides the guy at Disney is responsible for 200,000 employees while Harbaugh had what 10 coaches and another 20-30 analysts. These two scenarios are not even remotely similar.

This is all a moot point anyway, the bylaws state ignorance of violations is not a defense. If he did not know, he was supposed to know. HeÂ’s cooked and will be fired for cause or quit on his own. At this point they are just trying to get through the season and then afterwards they will nuke most of the coaching staff.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by apb4

The guy selling popcorn is likely not also sitting in meetings or working closely with the CEO of Disney. Here we have evidence that Stallions was in contact with both coordinators and even Harbaugh. To think Jimmy never asked what a recruiting analyst was doing working closely with your top dogs during a game is just hard to believe. Did he think Stallions was giving Minter and Moore updates on the offensive tackle they were recruiting out of Texas? Come on man he knew what he was there for as did the entire staff. Besides the guy at Disney is responsible for 200,000 employees while Harbaugh had what 10 coaches and another 20-30 analysts. These two scenarios are not even remotely similar.

This is all a moot point anyway, the bylaws state ignorance of violations is not a defense. If he did not know, he was supposed to know. HeÂ’s cooked and will be fired for cause or quit on his own. At this point they are just trying to get through the season and then afterwards they will nuke most of the coaching staff.

Pretty sure he was being sarcastic… or I hope

[apb4]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Pretty sure he was being sarcasticÂ… or I hope

IÂ’ve read and heard so many excuses and justification from the UM folks thatÂ’s itÂ’s hard to tell who is serious and who is making light of the situation. As you said I hope this was sarcasm but not entirely sure.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by Stifle

The icons of brilliance, a subject matter from 1991 is antiquated but the rule of spying on opposing sidelines happens to be from 1994. Wouldn’t you know, the members who dislike Harbaugh want to utilize this as a modern day rule violation punishable by those who control the power and wealth. Looks like a repeat of our history. If this were a elite person, they would have it be laughed off the news.

Just for Pete’s sake, use the portal like Harbaugh and Sanders, ok.

Why use the portal? Just cheat like Harbaugh and Michigan. Then you can almost beat TCU

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by apb4

IÂ’ve read and heard so many excuses and justification from the UM folks thatÂ’s itÂ’s hard to tell who is serious and who is making light of the situation. As you said I hope this was sarcasm but not entirely sure.

He’s making fun of the Michigan guys that were so defensive and calling for a whambulance

[apb4]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

He’s making fun of the Michigan guys that were so defensive and calling for a whambulance

Duly noted. My apologizes Grid, my sarcasm meter obviously needs a recalibration.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by asujbl

A - you love the word antiquated
B - why did you capitalize Pete? Who is he?
C - how long have you been banging Deion?
D - now I know you’re trolling

If I took a mental dump in a debate that helps make this entire rule look ancient for Harbaugh to be punished. I certainly wouldn’t want to be the member that stated “Going back to 1991 is a Bold move”. It amazes me that these same members are utilizing a rule we all know in going back to 1994 to punish Harbaugh is just as bold when teams around the country are doing the same !

A. Antiquated like many other unforced rules. There are laws that have less media coverage than this is receiving.
B. For the Love of Pete, I just capitalized L & P.
C. I’m not going that route, you are the one that took the thread there, I’m off those rails when it comes to debating that nonsense.
D. Trolls don’t bring facts and data. Your just a bit flustered because the truth is this entire clown show has nothing to do with the outcome of any games. I understand, take a moment and face the truth -

For the love of Pete, start utilizing the portal instead of scapegoating !

[Stifle]

I may have technology from 1994, but I’m unlikely to use it because I prefer modern technology. It’s adapted to meet the needs of today!

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Stifle

If I took a mental dump in a debate that helps make this entire rule look ancient for Harbaugh to be punished. I certainly wouldn’t want to be the member that stated “Going back to 1991 is a Bold move”. It amazes me that these same members are utilizing a rule we all know in going back to 1994 to punish Harbaugh is just as bold when teams around the country are doing the same !

A. Antiquated like many other unforced rules. There are laws that have less media coverage than this is receiving.
B. For the Love of Pete, I just capitalized L & P.
C. I’m not going that route, you are the one that took the thread there, I’m off those rails when it comes to debating that nonsense.
D. Trolls don’t bring facts and data. Your just a bit flustered because the truth is this entire clown show has nothing to do with the outcome of any games. I understand, take a moment and face the truth -

For the love of Pete, start utilizing the portal instead of scapegoating !

Psychopath

[MIRRABB]

https://twitter.com/InOldOhio/status...49740644094424

hmm

[asujbl]

The hammer is coming

Michigan fans will try to distract with the game… which they absolutely could win. The players are good

The program is F’d

But it will be an Ohio State issue if the good players win the game over the other good players

[mfw13]

Honestly, given how corrupt college football has become with NIL and the transfer portal, the fuss being made over Michigan's sign stealing is hilarious.

These days, college football is just one giant cesspool of bribery, with the richest boosters funding the most successful programs.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by MIRRABB

https://twitter.com/InOldOhio/status...49740644094424

hmm

Sucks when you have to close your doors

[asujbl]

Wrong quote

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Honestly, given how corrupt college football has become with NIL and the transfer portal, the fuss being made over Michigan's sign stealing is hilarious.

These days, college football is just one giant cesspool of bribery, with the richest boosters funding the most successful programs.

So getting caught is the issue? That’s a post

[oldgoldy97]

Which OSU burger joint is going to market the Jimmy’s Nothing Burger: 1 full pound of beef with all the fixings?

[GoTribe!!!]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Which OSU burger joint is going to market the Jimmy’s Nothing Burger: 1 full pound of beef with all the fixings?

Thurman Cafe!
Home of The NothingBurger, just don't steal our sign!

[JoinerCP]

Originally Posted by MIRRABB

A few quotes on ESPNU radio from highly connected local journalist Angelique Chengelis who is also a big Michigan homer

Saying it's "a dumpster fire" and says there will likely be “much” more uncovered.

“Never imagined anything like this.” They are no longer defending themselves. They are doing damage control. They learned something late Wednesday night.”

“Ono tweeted something he shouldn’t have.”

“They probably should have started damage control before this if they knew what they knew.”

After watching the denial and insistence that UM had done nothing wrong, this GIF applied.




But after all of the theories put out about why this was happening to UM, it's feeling more deservedly like this:

[HBMC]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

Wat?

That's a pretty odd assessment of a guy caught in a particularly poignant moment.

Winning a football game isn't poignant. Harbaugh didn't die.

I am also commenting on the meta of society as a whole, the inability to regulate emotions is everywhere and it is flooding everyone's feeds on a daily basis. It's a form of social contagion IMO.

[wiper]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

Well, before about noon today I was convinced it wasn't that bad.

Developments since have been less than ideal.

It's unfortunate that such a mess was allowed to go on. I misread the institution's public stance on this issue prior to today.

Feel bad for the current players who had the talent to do it on their own. Now everything is wiped out for them, or will be eventually.

Some lean years are likely ahead. They're going to have to clean house and rebuild it from scratch.

Enjoy the rest of the season, gentlemen.

5 more games.

then it’s whatever.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

Well, before about noon today I was convinced it wasn't that bad.

Developments since have been less than ideal.

It's unfortunate that such a mess was allowed to go on. I misread the institution's public stance on this issue prior to today.

Feel bad for the current players who had the talent to do it on their own. Now everything is wiped out for them, or will be eventually.

Some lean years are likely ahead. They're going to have to clean house and rebuild it from scratch.

Enjoy the rest of the season, gentlemen.

Good job hairy!

Originally Posted by asujbl

The hammer is coming

Michigan fans will try to distract with the game… which they absolutely could win. The players are good

The program is F’d

But it will be an Ohio State issue if the good players win the game over the other good players

I don't know why Michigan fans thought this was a nothing burger. Who in their right mind really believes a 50K employee did it all on his own without anyone else knowing or having anything to do with it? Delusional.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by wiper

5 more games.

then it’s whatever.

You did a 180 pretty quick