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Old 12-06-2023, 12:05 AM   #26
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Remember how good 2022 Update Sapphire was?

As far as i can remember, that was the last release before Fanatics boneheads took over that shipped sealed cases on orders of 10.
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Old 12-06-2023, 01:34 AM   #27
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Remember how good 2022 Update Sapphire was?

As far as i can remember, that was the last release before Fanatics boneheads took over that shipped sealed cases on orders of 10.
It was also close because it was 130 per box and on card autos.
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Old 12-06-2023, 08:32 AM   #28
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2022 Update Sapphire was brutal for me. I opened one case and my best card was a base Julio Debut. I didn't even hit a base rookie Julio or Witt. The color was completely unremarkable... and that will still likely be a better experience then opening 2023.
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Old 12-06-2023, 11:55 AM   #29
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Here is the checklist:

https://www.topps.com/media/pdf/MLB2...eChecklist.pdf

The Sapphire Selections and the auto checklist is not bad.


Autos:
USA-AR Adley Rutschman Baltimore Orioles® Rookie
USA-AV Anthony Volpe New York Yankees® Rookie
USA-BB Brett Baty New York Mets® Rookie
USA-BR Brayan Rocchio Cleveland Guardians™ Rookie
USA-CC Corbin Carroll Arizona Diamondbacks® Rookie
USA-CM Christopher Morel Chicago Cubs® Rookie
USA-CS Casey Schmitt San Francisco Giants® Rookie
USA-ER Esteury Ruiz Oakland Athletics™ Rookie
USA-ET Ezequiel Tovar Colorado Rockies™ Rookie
USA-GH Gunnar Henderson Baltimore Orioles® Rookie
USA-GM Gabriel Moreno Arizona Diamondbacks® Rookie
USA-GR Grayson Rodriguez Baltimore Orioles® Rookie
USA-JJ Josh Jung Texas Rangers® Rookie
USA-JO James Outman Los Angeles Dodgers® Rookie
USA-JW Jordan Walker St. Louis Cardinals® Rookie
USA-KS Kodai Senga New York Mets® Rookie
USA-LO Logan O'Hoppe Angels® Rookie
USA-MB Michael Busch Los Angeles Dodgers® Rookie
USA-MH Michael Harris II Atlanta Braves™ Rookie
USA-MMC Matt McLain Cincinnati Reds® Rookie
USA-MME Matt Mervis Chicago Cubs® Rookie
USA-MY Masataka Yoshida Boston Red Sox® Rookie
USA-OCO Oscar Colás Chicago White Sox® Rookie
USA-OP Oswald Peraza New York Yankees® Rookie
USA-PB Patrick Bailey San Francisco Giants® Rookie
USA-RG Riley Greene Detroit Tigers® Rookie
USA-SS Spencer Steer Cincinnati Reds® Rookie
USA-TB Tanner Bibee Cleveland Guardians™ Rookie
USA-TBR Taj Bradley Tampa Bay Rays™ Rookie
USA-TC Triston Casas Boston Red Sox® Rookie
USA-ZN Zach Neto Angels® Rookie

Sapphire Selections (not sure why they keep leaving Bobby Witt Jr. off the lists)
SAPPHIRE SELECTIONS
SS-11 Josh Jung Texas Rangers® Rookie
SS-12 Bobby Miller Los Angeles Dodgers® Rookie
SS-13 Grayson Rodriguez Baltimore Orioles® Rookie
SS-14 Juan Soto San Diego Padres™
SS-15 Kodai Senga New York Mets® Rookie
SS-16 Christopher Morel Chicago Cubs® Rookie
SS-17 Gabriel Moreno Arizona Diamondbacks® Rookie
SS-18 Logan O'Hoppe Angels® Rookie
SS-19 Miguel Vargas Los Angeles Dodgers® Rookie
SS-20 Aaron Judge New York Yankees®
SS-21 Mike Trout Angels®
SS-22 Shohei Ohtani Angels®
SS-23 Julio Rodríguez Seattle Mariners™
SS-24 Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Toronto Blue Jays®
SS-25 Ronald Acuña Jr. Atlanta Braves™

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Old 12-06-2023, 11:58 AM   #30
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And here are the odds:

https://www.topps.com/media/pdf/odds...pphireOdds.pdf
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Old 12-06-2023, 11:59 AM   #31
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Based on odds of Supers for the SS about 10,000 boxes. Yeah, Topps is going to charge some cheddar for these. Probably in the $500 range.
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:03 PM   #32
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Up for $225
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:04 PM   #33
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crazy times.

when the actual set it is "Sapphire-ing" sucks, what makes Sapphiring better/ haha
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:04 PM   #34
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The checklist seems pretty nice, but very fearful that it is 500 a box. Maybe an off season special discount?? hahahhahah
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:06 PM   #35
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Live now at $224.99/ box (4 box limit), 10 box case $2179.99
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:07 PM   #36
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$30 a pack haha
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:08 PM   #37
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You’re basically buying it for the auto.
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:13 PM   #38
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Default 2023 Topps Chrome Sapphire Update ?

In comparison to other Topps Chrome products it actually seems pretty decent value. They wisely are featuring all the better TC auto guys on a smaller auto checklist…again. Makes this one decent IMO and dilutes the value and staying power of TC and TCU cards id think.
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:13 PM   #39
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BO: God, here comes Sapphire with high print runs, no content and crappy sticker autos no one wants

Topps: 3 parallels and an auto per box, only 36 autos on the checklist

BO: Yeah and its for the breakers at $500 a box

Topps: $225

BO: Garbage, so much garbage. The price per card is like more than the ROI and if you add in holiday shipping and the fact that tax forms may come out soon I can't afford maybe going over selling 200 items and having to pay without getting advice on how to charge buyers for my gas to drop off the package while getting my burrito screw fanatics its all for breakers and I can't make money.

Topps: ....

BO: Here is my 4 box break, how did I do?
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:15 PM   #40
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The auto checklist is pretty good IMO...but still a pass for me.
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:17 PM   #41
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I bought 4. I maybe a sucker but will enjoy ripping these on Christmas (Topps don’t screw up the shipping)
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:18 PM   #42
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Dang... another Sapphire pass.
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:18 PM   #43
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There is a “line” to get in
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:19 PM   #44
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Insta-buy if the autos weren't stickers

Average case should have 30 parallels (25 gold/orange, 5 black/red), 2 sapphire selections (1 base, 1 parallel), 12 chrome autos (6 base, 4 parallels), 1/6 chance at a sapphire selections auto
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:19 PM   #45
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I’m in now, short line
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:19 PM   #46
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Imagine doing the following, in order, and not stopping yourself at any point

Open a laptop
Power it on
Sign in
Open web browser
Go to Topps.com
Login
Go to boxes/packs
Click on 2023 TCU Sapphire
Add to cart
Go to cart
Click checkout
Review order
Click shipping
Choose shipping
Click payment
Review/enter payment
Click checkout
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:21 PM   #47
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yea, no addiction involved at all

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Old 12-06-2023, 12:30 PM   #48
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I'm surprised at the excitement on Twitter. When did sticker autos and rookie debuts become popular?
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:33 PM   #49
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Sealed cases sold out
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Old 12-06-2023, 12:34 PM   #50
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I'm surprised at the excitement on Twitter. When did sticker autos and rookie debuts become popular?
In a vacuum, the print run is fantastic (~850 base), the price is good, the auto checklist is very strong.

Unfortunately the autos are stickers and the base checklist is very weak. Basically pick 2 of 3 (price, on-card/sticker, print run), I think A&G X is the only product that hit all 3 this year.
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