2023-24 NHL Season Thread

[cholodolo]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

In the old days Joseph would have paid a price that evening for his actions.

Now we wait for Zoom meetings for suspensions and fines.

Yes what Perron did was dumb and he should face consequences. Overreaction.

Glad Larkin's scans came back negative.

What were his "actions" exactly? The opposite angle shows Joseph making initial contact with his left glove followed by the right hand with the stick. Looked to me like someone trying to clear the crease on a PK with a loose puck and Korpisalo on his butt. Was a shove that rode up high; Kelly coming in seemed to be what knocked him out.

Perron deserves 5-10 games...and I thought it was the most outrageous thing I'd see all weekend until Gudbranson's assault on Cousins. Wrapped him up, threw him to the ice, and then kept punching him in the back of the head. 29 PIM...deserves 10-20 games. Gudbranson is 6'5 220 and Cousins 5'11 185...

Columbus fans screaming bloody murder at the initial hit, which, while it looked bad, wasn't a two hand shove to the numbers. To me, it looked like Cousins was anticipating contact from the much larger Gudbranson and leaned into it...only for Gudbranson to turn his head and go directly into the boards. For Gudbranson to pop right up and try and fight him is antithetical to the whole "that could have killed him" argument. He was fine, the refs reviewed it, and gave Cousins 2 minutes for boarding.

Of course the lamest people in sports screaming Cousins "turtled"..."should have answered the bell"...Florida has big boys, if Gudbranson wanted it, I'm sure he could've found a dance partner. Instead he dropped the gloves mid-check on Cousins and tackled him to the ice. Disgusting.

[kellmuff]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

In the old days Joseph would have paid a price that evening for his actions.

Fischer jumped him off a faceoff and proceeded to lose the fight lol

[ZappBrannigan]

The highlights from this WeePee skirmish had more viewer’s than the actual game. Where’s Stan Jonathan when you need him.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by kellmuff

Fischer jumped him off a faceoff and proceeded to lose the fight lol

That's part of the problem - there's no one on the team who could win a fight.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by ZappBrannigan

The highlights from this WeePee skirmish had more viewer’s than the actual game. Where’s Stan Jonathan when you need him.

Stan could throw down with the best of them even though he was like 5'8"!

[rrk100]

I enjoyed this interview with Brock Boeser — https://youtu.be/Jc8Rt5r1OYo?si=8gO_JihMsqBXWBI6

[valleynuckfan]

Cousin's hit was cheap and dangerous. I don't agree that Gudbranson has to look for a bigger dance partner. Cousins did what he did and gets to be accountable for it, not some other big goon. Otherwise it's basically just another weak-assed staged fight.
The NHL is all over the map with hits from behind and sometimes the players feel they just need to police it themselves.
Erik thought he was taken advantage of so he took care of his own business.
Nick Cousins ain't no angel here.

[lambeauleap87]

Originally Posted by valleynuckfan

Cousin's hit was cheap and dangerous. I don't agree that Gudbranson has to look for a bigger dance partner. Cousins did what he did and gets to be accountable for it, not some other big goon. Otherwise it's basically just another weak-assed staged fight.
The NHL is all over the map with hits from behind and sometimes the players feel they just need to police it themselves.
Erik thought he was taken advantage of so he took care of his own business.
Nick Cousins ain't no angel here.

I loved the street justice from Gudbranson, especially after Cousins turtled like a coward the first go-round after such a dirty hit. Glad to see he took a well-deserved beatdown soon after, especially since it's already a lost season for the Jackets.

The real issue, though, was the officiating taking that from a major to a minor. Could've solved everything, but they went out of their way not to.

[cholodolo]

Originally Posted by valleynuckfan

Cousin's hit was cheap and dangerous. I don't agree that Gudbranson has to look for a bigger dance partner. Cousins did what he did and gets to be accountable for it, not some other big goon. Otherwise it's basically just another weak-assed staged fight.
The NHL is all over the map with hits from behind and sometimes the players feel they just need to police it themselves.
Erik thought he was taken advantage of so he took care of his own business.
Nick Cousins ain't no angel here.

Of the three (Kane, Robinson, Cousins), Cousins was the least egregious and actually a hockey play. Gudbranson needs to anticipate contact going behind the net; Brodin and Barron on the other hand were square to the boards and vulnerable. He has every right to be upset with the hit, and if he wants to fight someone, he should find someone willing. Otherwise, the normal bit of retaliation would be a big hit -- not dragging him to the ice and punching him in the back of the head...that's never been allowed. Thus his meeting with player safety today.

Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

The real issue, though, was the officiating taking that from a major to a minor. Could've solved everything, but they went out of their way not to.

Don't understand this point -- so, if Cousins sat for 3 more minutes in the box Gudbranson would have forgiven him and not gone spider monkey as soon as he got the chance? Tough to believe that.

[kingb22]

The Larkin one was a bit weird to me - the amount of violence in the cross check was not anywhere near the result. Given the hit was almost in the same spot as what Jamie Benn did to him in 2021, I'd worry a bit about a Lindros situation moving forward. (Not a doctor though and don't try to play one on TV - just message boards )

[hairysasquatch]

Lol.at six games for Perron - the NHL is a total joke

[valleynuckfan]

Originally Posted by cholodolo

Of the three (Kane, Robinson, Cousins), Cousins was the least egregious and actually a hockey play. Gudbranson needs to anticipate contact going behind the net; Brodin and Barron on the other hand were square to the boards and vulnerable. He has every right to be upset with the hit, and if he wants to fight someone, he should find someone willing. Otherwise, the normal bit of retaliation would be a big hit -- not dragging him to the ice and punching him in the back of the head...that's never been allowed. Thus his meeting with player safety today.



Don't understand this point -- so, if Cousins sat for 3 more minutes in the box Gudbranson would have forgiven him and not gone spider monkey as soon as he got the chance? Tough to believe that.

Cousins' hit to Gudbranson was the least egregious and it was a hockey play?
Not bloody likely.
Erik was playing the puck at the boards when Nick pretty much left the ice to smoke him on the forecheck. Nick knew the play he was making. His choice not to hold up a wee bit and he reaped what he sowed.
C'mon man, you've said you've played the game. I would expect a little more clear insight having laced them up at a competitive level.
Yes, Erik is facing the music for his later reaction and that's fair, no debate.

[cholodolo]

Originally Posted by valleynuckfan

Cousins' hit to Gudbranson was the least egregious and it was a hockey play?
Not bloody likely.
Erik was playing the puck at the boards when Nick pretty much left the ice to smoke him on the forecheck. Nick knew the play he was making. His choice not to hold up a wee bit and he reaped what he sowed.
C'mon man, you've said you've played the game. I would expect a little more clear insight having laced them up at a competitive level.
Yes, Erik is facing the music for his later reaction and that's fair, no debate.

Brother, yes, of the 3...guess we are going to have to agree to disagree. Gudbranson was furthest from the boards when Cousins makes contact. I don't think Cousins had any intent and looked to me like he was bracing for contact from Gudbranson as the puck came back off the boards. You're right Cousins intended to make contact, but don't think it was nearly as dangerous as the others.

Look at these shots from right before contact and tell me Cousins is the worst...it might have *looked* the worst because they were both chasing the puck and Gudbranson went flying. But that was also his momentum taking him into the boards. The other two were crushed when not looking.

[kellmuff]

Originally Posted by kingb22

The Larkin one was a bit weird to me - the amount of violence in the cross check was not anywhere near the result. Given the hit was almost in the same spot as what Jamie Benn did to him in 2021, I'd worry a bit about a Lindros situation moving forward. (Not a doctor though and don't try to play one on TV - just message boards )

Wasnt a crosscheck

On a side note - love what Gudbranson did tbh. Wish more guys would get up and take care of it themselves. lmao Cousins though. Two turtles in one game?

[kellmuff]

also saw the DOPS video re Perron and they say in it that Detroit tried to argue it wasnt a headshot. lmao their org might be dumber than their fans

[ZappBrannigan]

Dust off your Robertson investments he scored a goal. That should creep his investors up a notch from Zegras, Kazill, Tage and Colefield.

[kingb22]

Originally Posted by ZappBrannigan

Dust off your Robertson investments he scored a goal. That should creep his investors up a notch from Zegras, Kazill, Tage and Colefield.

In fairness, he's got 26pts in 27 games this year so not exactly a disaster. He seems like he's trying to evolve his game to be a playmaker, but really needs to get back to being a gunner (esp. on the powerplay)

[cholodolo]

Finally Drysdale, Zegras, and McTavish practicing at the same time.

Missed them on this terrible run: lost 5 games by 1 goal, and 2 others after an empty netter.

7 games were separated by 1 goal heading into the final 2 minutes...need a few of those to bounce our way, but already much more competitive than last season under Eakins.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by kellmuff

also saw the DOPS video re Perron and they say in it that Detroit tried to argue it wasnt a headshot. lmao their org might be dumber than their fans

Big talk from a fan of crap-tier expansion franchise

[DontToewsMeBro]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

In the old days Joseph would have paid a price that evening for his actions.

Now we wait for Zoom meetings for suspensions and fines.

Yes what Perron did was dumb and he should face consequences. Overreaction.

Glad Larkin's scans came back negative.

Caleb Joseph did next to nothing.

That little push he gave Larkin happens all the time.

It was a flukey KO.

To think or say otherwise is pathetic. If Larkin wasn't KO'd nobody would remember the play at all.

Perron deserved the game misconduct and needs at least another 10 games suspension for being a complete idiot.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by DontToewsMeBro

Caleb Joseph did next to nothing.

That little push he gave Larkin happens all the time.

It was a flukey KO.

To think or say otherwise is pathetic. If Larkin wasn't KO'd nobody would remember the play at all.

Perron deserved the game misconduct and needs at least another 10 games suspension for being a complete idiot.

I feel like you and I would have probably fought if we met in a game.

[kingb22]

Devils vs Bruins tonight was a fun game - very high quality on both sides. For some reason the Devils look a lot better with Jack Hughes and Nico Hischier back hitting their strides

[anusinha]

Did Slavkovsky do something? Someone bought all my Slav's on COMC.

[kingb22]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Did Slavkovsky do something? Someone bought all my Slav's on COMC.

0pts in last 5 / 2 assist and no goals in last 10 ... If so not sure what it was.

[cholodolo]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Did Slavkovsky do something? Someone bought all my Slav's on COMC.

Sounds like someone has subscribed to the "he's due" school of buying.

Separate note, it's kind of a bummer they've strapped the water bottles to the net. Used to love watching those things pop off.

The second goal in EDM-TB was a direct hit.