Anybody submit to PSA lately?

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by 88horsepower

I definitely don't think it has anything to do with population control, I can tell you that. I plan to crack out one of the lower graded slabs from my last order to find out what the issue is.

I will say this, without question, my grades have never been lower than in the last eight months, and I scrutinize my cards even more today than I did six years ago when I used to get almost all 10s and 9s. Something is up, but I can't understand what it is.

I had a batch that I sent in expecting all 10’s and got ten 9’s and one 10. When they arrived, I realized something happened along the way and all the 9’s had dings in the lower right corner. Such a bummer.

Originally Posted by 88horsepower

Are PSA graders harsher because they're being instructed to do so due to increased standards?

It’s possible. Grading standards can change.

Originally Posted by 88horsepower

Are PSA graders lacking in experience giving out poor grades due to that lack of experience?

I don’t necessarily see a direct connection of “inexperienced graders = lower grade on a card”. A lot of people also say that if a grader is in a bad mood they will give a lower grade, I don’t see that connection either.

Originally Posted by 88horsepower

Is the volume they are receiving causing issues with handling and/or grading on their end?

It’s possible.

Originally Posted by 88horsepower

Or am I, despite scrutinizing my cards more and having a strong prior grading experience with 10s and 9s, suddenly losing my touch?

I would really have no way of knowing. It’s unlikely, but not unfathomable.

[larry25]

I would say that, with over 50% of the 10s of millions of cards graded over the last few years being ultra-modern, graders now how this idea that a PSA 10 should be a perfect card. But that would be wrong. MAYBE for ultra modern, but that has never been the standard in the past. Most PSA 10s from the 1990s and earlier have a few little things wrong with them that, by today's standards, would make them, I don't know, 6s and 8s? It's obvious that this has happened, and I think this is the obvious reason why, but it's a total failure on PSA's part not to correct the issue. PSA 10 Gem Mint does not mean perfect or pristine!

[fenwaykid]

Originally Posted by larry25

I would say that, with over 50% of the 10s of millions of cards graded over the last few years being ultra-modern, graders now how this idea that a PSA 10 should be a perfect card. But that would be wrong. MAYBE for ultra modern, but that has never been the standard in the past. Most PSA 10s from the 1990s and earlier have a few little things wrong with them that, by today's standards, would make them, I don't know, 6s and 8s? It's obvious that this has happened, and I think this is the obvious reason why, but it's a total failure on PSA's part not to correct the issue. PSA 10 Gem Mint does not mean perfect or pristine!

100%, definitely different grading standards being applied.

[MoreToppsPlease]

It’s completely intriguing to see that worrying about the opinion of anonymous people about the condition of their cards is the real hobby for many people.

It’s even more intriguing when those people recognize how subjective that opinion is from each and every source, especially graders, and yet they still spend so much worrying.

[Rjcollings1973]

Originally Posted by fenwaykid

Be careful, grades coming out right now are horrific. They are back to protecting Pop reports and not giving out 10’s.

LOL Had a 202 card order with a 91% gem rate. People need to realize its the card not some conspiracy theory.

[larry25]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

It’s completely intriguing to see that worrying about the opinion of anonymous people about the condition of their cards is the real hobby for many people.

It’s even more intriguing when those people recognize how subjective that opinion is from each and every source, especially graders, and yet they still spend so much worrying.

Intriguing? 10s are worth 3X to as much as 20X the 9s. It's basic math. A 10 is distinction. A 10 is like getting an A+ on your report card. 10s rock. I don't hate 9s. I just don't collect them. I want the very best. But that's just me

[Promethius88]

Originally Posted by larry25

Intriguing? 10s are worth 3X to as much as 20X the 9s. It's basic math. A 10 is distinction. A 10 is like getting an A+ on your report card. 10s rock. I don't hate 9s. I just don't collect them. I want the very best. But that's just me

I think the point was that your 10 may actually be a lesser quality card than the 9 that you are passing on. Yet, you are paying 3-10x more for that card.

[NYBBFAN]

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by Rjcollings1973

LOL Had a 202 card order with a 91% gem rate. People need to realize its the card not some conspiracy theory.

Its not the card, its the grader

[larry25]

Originally Posted by Promethius88

I think the point was that your 10 may actually be a lesser quality card than the 9 that you are passing on. Yet, you are paying 3-10x more for that card.

Very good point. I've purchased far lower slabs than 9s and got them graded back up to 9s and even 10s. Countless times. That pursuit in itself is a hobby for some people. Me? I just consider myself lucky, like finding $100 bill on the street, when I pass a PSA 6 or PSA 8 I know has obviously been shat on by some angry or inexperienced grader.

[vinson24]

Their grading does seem to be going faster right now but adding cards into a set registry right now is way behind. I have request from August still not approved.

[JAM061200]

Originally Posted by larry25

Very good point. I've purchased far lower slabs than 9s and got them graded back up to 9s and even 10s. Countless times. That pursuit in itself is a hobby for some people. Me? I just consider myself lucky, like finding $100 bill on the street, when I pass a PSA 6 or PSA 8 I know has obviously been shat on by some angry or inexperienced grader.

When sending a PSA graded card back to the PSA for regrading, is it as simple as sending an ungraded card in? Same process except identifying that card as a regrade? What was your turnaround time? Thanks! I have a few I'm considering for regrading.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by fenwaykid

Be careful, grades coming out right now are horrific. They are back to protecting Pop reports and not giving out 10’s.

80's special happened. Those aren't easy 10's like ultra-modern. The ones I did poorly on, they nailed correctly after scan review.

[nsdikin]

Originally Posted by fenwaykid

Be careful, grades coming out right now are horrific. They are back to protecting Pop reports and not giving out 10’s.

I have to agree 100% on this one. Had a seven card sub (01 Best Pujols, Miggy Topps Update RC, Harper Bowman 2012 Blue Auto, Verlander Bowman 1st Auto)...all got 8s

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by nsdikin

I have to agree 100% on this one. Had a seven card sub (01 Best Pujols, Miggy Topps Update RC, Harper Bowman 2012 Blue Auto, Verlander Bowman 1st Auto)...all got 8s

8's are great! congrats on the winning!

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by fenwaykid

Be careful, grades coming out right now are horrific. They are back to protecting Pop reports and not giving out 10’s.

Same people saying this: I got 10's, Bo Derek!, Bo Derek!, beeeetcheees!

[fenwaykid]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

80's special happened. Those aren't easy 10's like ultra-modern. The ones I did poorly on, they nailed correctly after scan review.

What does that mean? Are you seeing them change grades during the process?

[duwal]

Originally Posted by nsdikin

I have to agree 100% on this one. Had a seven card sub (01 Best Pujols, Miggy Topps Update RC, Harper Bowman 2012 Blue Auto, Verlander Bowman 1st Auto)...all got 8s

well for you and others claiming grading conspiracy, lets see those card scans and if they truly deserve the given grades or not. Otherwise its just wild claims with no type of evidence shown

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by duwal

well for you and others claiming grading conspiracy, lets see those card scans and if they truly deserve the given grades or not. Otherwise its just wild claims with no type of evidence shown

Gem mint, bro. Trust me.

[HarryLime]

Maybe we just ran out of gem mint cards.

Arthur

[sandlotsportcards]

I’ve got three different orders there right now (value bulk, value plus, and a crossover). They are all moving pretty quickly. Got there Jan 2. The bulk actually shows assembly while my value plus still shows grading. My crossover grade popped and it was successful. Sent a Wemby Filigree SGC 10 and got it crossed to PSA 10.

[88horsepower]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Its not the card, its the grader

I'm more inclined to believe this rather than it being the card, especially since so many re-grades indicate a serious inconsistency in grading. The crack and re-send game is very real.

[Giroux]

Their slabs are pretty easy to open when they give you an inexplicable PSA 5, which is nice.

[Rbradleigh]

Originally Posted by NamesJay

I sent some cards in on Value Bulk that were received December 22nd and they are already in Encapsulating stage.

Anyone else have any experience with recent submissions and turnaround times?

Main PSA site says late March is my expected completion date, but in my experience, grading is the longest stage and the others are pretty quick after that...

I just got an email from my LCS today that the single card value submission I gave them on 12/4 is available for pickup. That’s a really quick turnaround, 5 weeks which obviously included the holidays in between. A single card so perhaps large bulk not quite as fast.

My LCS is Collector’s Corner in Bellevue, WA (Seattle area) who offers PSA submission.


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[Galileo77]

Originally Posted by Giroux

Their slabs are pretty easy to open when they give you an inexplicable PSA 5, which is nice.

How many people crack the original slab and how many actually crack the slab.
?
I have absolutely no basis for this but I thought and maybe totally in error, that if PSA grader saw a 10 say from SGC they would be very reluctant to grade a 10 etc.. However i found that cracking a slab safely is not an easy task.As they say, the Devil is in the Detail. I wanted to send an Ohtani for re-grade and was afraid to hurt the card so i took almost 15 throway grades and searched out the best technique to crack the slab. the first group I hurt about half the surfaces however by the end i became very comfortable if i cut all 4 corners prior to starting so especially if doing it for the first time on a valuable card maybe safer sending it in slabbed.