Kurt's Card Care

[RedStar]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

it is alteration plain and simple. I dont see any other way to look at it.

keep in mind, we have zero idea what his "goop" is going to do to a cards surface 25 years from now. who knows, could it cause some sort of greening like on some finest refractors? break down the cards gloss over time? we dont know.

it is dishonest and a stupid thing to do.

You know what else is alteration? When the factory worker at Topps presses down on print equipment and leaves lines and scratches on the card. But you don't seem to have an issue with that. "That's just how it came." lol ok.

[mc1]

Originally Posted by RedStar

You know what else is alteration? When the factory worker at Topps presses down on print equipment and leaves lines and scratches on the card. But you don't seem to have an issue with that. "That's just how it came." lol ok.

Thats called damage.

[Dielon]

Anyone who uses this is a complete noob.

[Stifle]

I can understand both sides of the argument. It just seems like any product on a card would be more harmful than positive.

If anybody were to find a pack of 1952 Topps baseball cards, open them up and find a beautiful Mantle card that had the back side next to a piece of 72 year old gum. In 52, it was Topps first year of placing gum in the packs. Would I wish I could remove the gum stains on the back of that card ? Yes, I would but I wouldn’t attempt it.

Last question, If there was a product that could take the gum stains off a Mantle 52 Topps card because Topps realizes it’s old ways we’re negative “Gum”, would you use the product ?

[Stifle]

Do the grading companies consider this product as a alteration ? Isn’t that a key to the answer?

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by Stifle

Do the grading companies consider this product as a alteration ? Isn’t that a key to the answer?

Yes they would. Problem is they can't seem to tell it was used when they are grading the card. Same as the micro trimming.

[PLB9eight]

Originally Posted by Stifle

Do the grading companies consider this product as a alteration ? Isn’t that a key to the answer?

Since when did grading companies become the gatekeepers and governing body of the hobby? It’s just their opinion, just like any grade on a card is.

[jplarson]

Originally Posted by PLB9eight

Since when did grading companies become the gatekeepers and governing body of the hobby?

The hobby voted them in with their economic dollars. People don't have to listen to the standards TPG's put out, but there's enough money in it that most people do.

Originally Posted by PLB9eight

It’s just their opinion, just like any grade on a card is.

I'll see your "it's just their opinion" bet and raise you one "it's just your opinion"! Boom, straight yahtzee flush checkmate bingo.

[PLB9eight]

Originally Posted by jplarson

The hobby voted them in with their economic dollars. People don't have to listen to the standards TPG's put out, but there's enough money in it that most people do.



I'll see your "it's just their opinion" bet and raise you one "it's just your opinion"! Boom, straight yahtzee flush checkmate bingo.

[rentz]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Yes they would. Problem is they can't seem to tell it was used when they are grading the card. Same as the micro trimming.

i think sgc has a video out there addressing that when asked and it was basically if they can detect it was altered and said issue is being able to tell on some cases.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by PLB9eight

Since when did grading companies become the gatekeepers and governing body of the hobby? It’s just their opinion, just like any grade on a card is.

We are the gatekeepers. I’m asking a serious question. Since Topps realized it’s mistake of placing gum which can damage the value of the product in its packs. Does a purchaser of a Topps card from 52-?? have the right to alter what the Company now sees as a flaw in selling its product? It’s a fair question. I wouldn’t do it because cardboard is fragile and what certainties would be guaranteed to fix what Topps horribly considered as a selling point.

You don’t sell the $10,000 watch in order to have a $50 watch band. It’s the watch that makes the sale and Topps learned from its mistake. Who pays for the mistake?

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by rentz

i think sgc has a video out there addressing that when asked and it was basically if they can detect it was altered and said issue is being able to tell on some cases.

What would happen if Topps came out with a product that would make gum stains come off their product? Wouldn’t that put a wrench in the system?

[YayNJ]

Kurts is a product of, and only exists because of demand in one of the most dishonest and corrupt 'hobbies' going.

Nothing more, nothing less.

[TheGoatOfLife]

Kurt's card wax is cool! I apply it to all my cards that I send into GEM grading! I even stroke my face every morning with his wax and wash my hair with his liquid! I feel slightly altered and hey if you like me less because I am not my original self then unfriend me on Facebook!

[larry25]

Originally Posted by TheGoatOfLife

Kurt's card wax is cool! I apply it to all my cards that I send into GEM grading! I even stroke my face every morning with his wax and wash my hair with his liquid! I feel slightly altered and hey if you like me less because I am not my original self then unfriend me on Facebook!

...N5!

[jplarson]

Originally Posted by TheGoatOfLife

Kurt's card wax is cool! I apply it to all my cards that I send into GEM grading! I even stroke my face every morning with his wax and wash my hair with his liquid! I feel slightly altered and hey if you like me less because I am not my original self then unfriend me on Facebook!

Authentic Altered.

[Stifle]

I remember buying all kinds of Topps products back in 73 - 80’s. I didn’t purchase the product with the intent of collecting or chewing all the gum. Topps realized decades after starting to place gum in packs in 52 that the idea was blatantly stupid. Topps ruined the quality of their product by this brainless move.

Do I feel like I had large amounts of cards that were altered by gum stains, yes. Do I alter cards for the benefit of having a better grade, no. The hobby is a lot like life, the accountability by altering cards in a negative way is forgiven for the top shareholders that make and agree to these horrible decisions, placing gum against cardboard, brilliant !

[Archangel1775]

The use of the humidor is interesting. I'm having an issue with a warped Topps Chrome card and curious if it'll help flatten it out. Right now I have an 35 pound weight sitting on top of a big book with the card inside of it. Just want to see if it works, if not, I'm out $5. Wait, does that mean I alter cards now?

[larry25]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

The use of the humidor is interesting. I'm having an issue with a warped Topps Chrome card and curious if it'll help flatten it out. Right now I have an 35 pound weight sitting on top of a big book with the card inside of it. Just want to see if it works, if not, I'm out $5. Wait, does that mean I alter cards now?

Brother, to be effective, you're gonna have to forget about that card under the weight for about 2 years. Seriously. Okay, maybe not 2 full years, but maybe 6 months. Just don't expect miracles in 2 weeks ya filthy card molester.

[mc1]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

The use of the humidor is interesting. I'm having an issue with a warped Topps Chrome card and curious if it'll help flatten it out. Right now I have an 35 pound weight sitting on top of a big book with the card inside of it. Just want to see if it works, if not, I'm out $5. Wait, does that mean I alter cards now?

Ive left prizm and chrome cards in toploaders for a few months and they are fine without any weights.

[thestickman1]

Capitalism at it's finest. You can buy an 8oz bottle of Kurt's card spray for $59.99! Wow!! It's like buying a $240 bottle of single malt scotch. What is in that spray for that price? I guess, he wouldn't have it, if people didn't buy it.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by thestickman1

Capitalism at it's finest. You can buy an 8oz bottle of Kurt's card spray for $59.99! Wow!! It's like buying a $240 bottle of single malt scotch. What is in that spray for that price? I guess, he wouldn't have it, if people didn't buy it.

It would be funny if it was just distilled water.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by thestickman1

Capitalism at it's finest. You can buy an 8oz bottle of Kurt's card spray for $59.99! Wow!! It's like buying a $240 bottle of single malt scotch. What is in that spray for that price? I guess, he wouldn't have it, if people didn't buy it.

Michael's Secret Stuff

[YouFold2Me]

QUOTE=Dielon;19244903]Anyone who uses this is a complete knob.[/QUOTE]

FYP

[YeahBuddy]

Originally Posted by thestickman1

Capitalism at it's finest. You can buy an 8oz bottle of Kurt's card spray for $59.99! Wow!! It's like buying a $240 bottle of single malt scotch. What is in that spray for that price? I guess, he wouldn't have it, if people didn't buy it.

or buy the kit for much cheaper which comes with it. Unless prices have changed havent visited the site in a while.