Messi's brother doing his on-card signing during 2017-18 - Page 8

kobewhite · 06-15-2023, 06:09 PM

Just saw this 1/1 Messi auto from this year. The LEO and loop look way different than before. Thoughts?

Ianhatcher · 06-15-2023, 07:00 PM

Not Messi's signature imo.

MonsterTruck20 · 06-15-2023, 11:08 PM

Fake.

Messicollector · 06-21-2023, 08:40 PM

Thoughts on this one?

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MonsterTruck20 · 06-21-2023, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Messicollector

Thoughts on this one?

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Authentic.

MonsterTruck20 · 06-23-2023, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MonsterTruck20

Someone should do a top 10 of the most beautiful Messi cards ruined by a fake sticker autograph.

Definitely top 3!

kyleuk21 · 07-11-2023, 09:10 PM

Thoughts on the on-card chronicles?

elsoblanco · 01-07-2024, 07:23 PM

Does this messi appear to actually have been signed by him?

MonsterTruck20 · 01-07-2024, 08:14 PM

No, that’s not his signature

elsoblanco · 01-07-2024, 09:22 PM

Thought so. Thanks for the confirmation.

YayNJ · 01-08-2024, 08:47 AM

I'm still gutted that the 2018 Eminence Messi's are all fakes.

I've been slowly cobbling together a full set, and I'm so hesitant to pay/wait for a Messi knowing they are all snide.

Skattered888 · 01-09-2024, 03:02 AM

So, are both versions of fakes done by messi’s brother and not panini screwing us over with some doing the signings?

BRob1 · 01-15-2024, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by YayNJ

I'm still gutted that the 2018 Eminence Messi's are all fakes.

I've been slowly cobbling together a full set, and I'm so hesitant to pay/wait for a Messi knowing they are all snide.

Hesitant? Isn’t it an outright pass?

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vthobby · 01-15-2024, 03:33 AM

He is still doing Messi signings. Wake up.

GrangerCollectr · 01-15-2024, 09:14 AM

I used to be in the camp that they could still be real.....but after all the research and detective work seen in here....I now believe they are all signed by his brother or another family member.

This led me to get rid of both of my "iffy" autographs which included an Eminence auto/patch. As said in this thread....it doesn't get talked about a ton in the high end soccer groups because so much money is invested in them.

mfw13 · 01-15-2024, 11:18 AM

Basically, you now have to assume two things:

- Few, if any, Messi autos were actually signed by him....
- the authenticator are clueless when it comes to Messi autos

You CANNOT assume that a Messi auto is authentic just because it's in a PSA/BGS?SGC holder.....

kingofsnake · 01-15-2024, 01:06 PM

Somehow I only found this thread today. Very informative - thank you.

kyleuk21 · 01-15-2024, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

Basically, you now have to assume two things:

- Few, if any, Messi autos were actually signed by him....
- the authenticator are clueless when it comes to Messi autos

You CANNOT assume that a Messi auto is authentic just because it's in a PSA/BGS?SGC holder.....

That’s not true at all. There are a million different videos of him signing stuff in-person and the questionable signatures are clear and obvious and primarily contained to a specific timeframe.

YayNJ · 01-15-2024, 05:34 PM

when you are calling out someone for exaggerating, it's probably not best to lead with 'there's a million videos of Messi signing...'

lol

the only autos of his I 100% trust are Noir or Flawless

kyleuk21 · 01-16-2024, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by YayNJ

when you are calling out someone for exaggerating, it's probably not best to lead with 'there's a million videos of Messi signing...'

lol

the only autos of his I 100% trust are Noir or Flawless

I said nothing about exaggeration. He wasn't exaggerating. He made a statement and I corrected it.

Jsquared123 · 01-16-2024, 03:22 PM

I never questioned this one since it seems like his typical loop and not the "triangle" L formation from the Eminence but.. this is a authentic auto right? lol

MonsterTruck20 · 01-16-2024, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsquared123

but.. this is a authentic auto right? lol

Yes, it is.

Jsquared123 · 02-16-2024, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MonsterTruck20

Yes, it is.

Thanks. Probably my best pull ever. Would be crushed if it wasn't real lol

dunquixote1 · 01-02-2025, 11:54 PM

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crdbored · 01-09-2025, 05:11 PM

https://goldin.co/item/2021-22-topps...JkSW5kZXgiOjh9

"Messi" red auto /5 at $800 with a nice sticker lol

06-15-2023, 06:09 PM	#176
kobewhite Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Chicago Posts: 280 chi_orange_cards	Just saw this 1/1 Messi auto from this year. The LEO and loop look way different than before. Thoughts? Attached Thumbnails

01-07-2024, 07:23 PM	#183
elsoblanco Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 392	Does this messi appear to actually have been signed by him? Attached Thumbnails

01-15-2024, 03:33 AM	#189
vthobby Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Virginia Tech Posts: 855	........ He is still doing Messi signings. Wake up.

01-15-2024, 09:14 AM	#190
GrangerCollectr Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,374 millercrows millercrows31	I used to be in the camp that they could still be real.....but after all the research and detective work seen in here....I now believe they are all signed by his brother or another family member. This led me to get rid of both of my "iffy" autographs which included an Eminence auto/patch. As said in this thread....it doesn't get talked about a ton in the high end soccer groups because so much money is invested in them. __________________ *"If you're not having fun, you're probably doing it wrong"* Instagram - indy_card_collector

01-15-2024, 01:06 PM	#192
kingofsnake Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Napa Valley Posts: 4,740	Somehow I only found this thread today. Very informative - thank you. __________________ I collect Joe Johnson - 2,846 different cards, 531 1/1's. www.ilocust.com/hobby.htm

06-15-2023, 07:00 PM	#177
Ianhatcher Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 1,999 ian5555	Not Messi's signature imo.

06-15-2023, 11:08 PM	#178
MonsterTruck20 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 271	Fake.

06-21-2023, 08:40 PM	#179
Messicollector Member Join Date: Jun 2023 Posts: 2	Thoughts on this one?

07-11-2023, 09:10 PM	#182
kyleuk21 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,981 redlegs317 kyleuk21	Thoughts on the on-card chronicles?

01-07-2024, 08:14 PM	#184
MonsterTruck20 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 271	No, that’s not his signature

01-07-2024, 09:22 PM	#185
elsoblanco Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 392	Thought so. Thanks for the confirmation.

01-08-2024, 08:47 AM	#186
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,809 hanelcocards	I'm still gutted that the 2018 Eminence Messi's are all fakes. I've been slowly cobbling together a full set, and I'm so hesitant to pay/wait for a Messi knowing they are all snide.

01-09-2024, 03:02 AM	#187
Skattered888 Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 186 originscare_au	So, are both versions of fakes done by messi’s brother and not panini screwing us over with some doing the signings?

01-15-2024, 11:18 AM	#191
mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 18,287	Basically, you now have to assume two things: - Few, if any, Messi autos were actually signed by him.... - the authenticator are clueless when it comes to Messi autos You CANNOT assume that a Messi auto is authentic just because it's in a PSA/BGS?SGC holder.....

01-15-2024, 05:34 PM	#194
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,809 hanelcocards	when you are calling out someone for exaggerating, it's probably not best to lead with 'there's a million videos of Messi signing...' lol the only autos of his I 100% trust are Noir or Flawless Last edited by YayNJ; 01-15-2024 at 05:48 PM.

01-16-2024, 03:22 PM	#196
Jsquared123 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 1,257 Sopranos6666	I never questioned this one since it seems like his typical loop and not the "triangle" L formation from the Eminence but.. this is a authentic auto right? lol

01-02-2025, 11:54 PM	#199
dunquixote1 Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 570	deleted Last edited by dunquixote1; 01-09-2025 at 11:59 AM.

01-09-2025, 05:11 PM	#200
crdbored Member Join Date: Dec 2023 Posts: 683	https://goldin.co/item/2021-22-topps...JkSW5kZXgiOjh9 "Messi" red auto /5 at $800 with a nice sticker lol