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Old 02-02-2024, 01:01 AM   #151
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Mike on SCN said Geoff Wilson has made more money in his card investments than most people in this hobby. Buying at the top and selling at the bottom is a good strategy apparently.
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Old 02-02-2024, 08:02 AM   #152
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Mike on SCN said Geoff Wilson has made more money in his card investments than most people in this hobby. Buying at the top and selling at the bottom is a good strategy apparently.
Nothing Mike says or does is intelligent. Mr. “Buy Durant TC PSA 10 at the absolute peak”.
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Old 02-02-2024, 10:41 AM   #153
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When the lawyer who can't read is backing your play you know you're in the wrong end of the pool.
He says as he plays marco polo with KhalDrogo.
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Old 02-02-2024, 07:29 PM   #154
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SCV new video is great.

Dude really doesn’t know the hobby well and you can see this by his comments about PSA/SGC. I can’t believe people buy in to his schtick.
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Old 02-02-2024, 09:19 PM   #155
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Y'all just need to pour a drink, go watch the Blabbin' about Slabbin' guys on YT, laugh a bit and remember what's fun about this hobby.

Talking about the actual sport of baseball, enjoying what's good about baseball cards mixed with a tinge of self deprecation and possibly a tad too much discussion about glutes.

Jeeeez.
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Old 02-02-2024, 10:10 PM   #156
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Y'all just need to pour a drink, go watch the Blabbin' about Slabbin' guys on YT, laugh a bit and remember what's fun about this hobby.

Talking about the actual sport of baseball, enjoying what's good about baseball cards mixed with a tinge of self deprecation and possibly a tad too much discussion about glutes.

Jeeeez.
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Old 02-02-2024, 10:16 PM   #157
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Y'all just need to pour a drink, go watch the Blabbin' about Slabbin' guys on YT, laugh a bit and remember what's fun about this hobby.

Talking about the actual sport of baseball, enjoying what's good about baseball cards mixed with a tinge of self deprecation and possibly a tad too much discussion about glutes.

Jeeeez.
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What he said!

Thanks for the shout-out, gents -- I think that's the best endorsement we've ever gotten! We definitely love talking about baseball and cardboard pictures -- and don't take ourselves too seriously.

If you think you might enjoy listening to a couple of card dorks blabbing about all things hobby, grab a drink and join the conversation on our YouTube Live show every Thursday night at 9 ET/6 PT.

Here's a link to the channel if you want to give us a shot. https://www.youtube.com/@Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
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Old 02-02-2024, 10:43 PM   #158
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SCV new video is great.

Dude really doesn’t know the hobby well and you can see this by his comments about PSA/SGC. I can’t believe people buy in to his schtick.
SCV is extremely smart.
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Old 02-03-2024, 08:09 AM   #159
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I personally enjoy listening to SCV in the background while I do things. He doesn't have a ton of hobby history or knowledge, which really isn't important when you're doing what he's doing. His system he uses works for him and it backed up by his ebay account and sales. I like he how tells it how it is and he definitely wont be called up to be an influencer anytime soon because of it.
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Old 02-03-2024, 09:36 AM   #160
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I just discovered one that has a lot of topics I'm interested in: The Shallow End by Iowa Dave/David.asa.schwartz
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Old 02-03-2024, 08:02 PM   #161
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I'm generally not a fan of people on camera taking shots at other people.

Want to counter what they have to say, disagree, that's one thing.

Talk cardboard, buying it, flipping it, collecting it, investing in it, touching it, squeezing it, rubbing one out on it, I don't really care, but people going at others is pretty middleschoolish unless your slandering father Gary which I totally am all for.
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Old 02-03-2024, 08:12 PM   #162
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Talk cardboard, buying it, flipping it, collecting it, investing in it, touching it, squeezing it, rubbing one out on it, I don't really care, but people going at others is pretty middleschoolish unless your slandering father Gary which I totally am all for.
Moser or V? Either way- I’m all for it.
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Old 02-03-2024, 08:14 PM   #163
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Moser or V? Either way- I’m all for it.
Well...I guess both haha
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Old 02-04-2024, 02:49 AM   #164
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It's fine to consume hobby content for their entertainment value. But I hope everyone realizes every content creator and influencer's goal is to build up an audience base to market to. It's ultimately just a grift. They want to gain your attention and trust so they can advertise to you. The sponsors are ultimately who matter.

This goes for literally everyone in the hobby. Even the Sports Card Radio bros, who like to act like outlaws and above the grift, clearly have some kind of relationship with Goldin. There's nothing wrong with that, but you've got to disclose that -- that's the ethical way of doing it.

The companies in the industry value influencers and content creators because it's an easier and cheaper way to directly market to a target audience. They know content creators have the trust of their audience, who will more likely going to do what they say.

It's all just a grift, folks.

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Old 02-04-2024, 04:22 PM   #165
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Could see that SCV guy appealing to the 20-somethings in the hobby who haven't really developed emotionally yet but to anyone above the age of 26/27 I really don't see that shtick resonating.
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Old 02-04-2024, 04:40 PM   #166
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It's fine to consume hobby content for their entertainment value. But I hope everyone realizes every content creator and influencer's goal is to build up an audience base to market to. It's ultimately just a grift. They want to gain your attention and trust so they can advertise to you. The sponsors are ultimately who matter.

This goes for literally everyone in the hobby. Even the Sports Card Radio bros, who like to act like outlaws and above the grift, clearly have some kind of relationship with Goldin. There's nothing wrong with that, but you've got to disclose that -- that's the ethical way of doing it.

The companies in the industry value influencers and content creators because it's an easier and cheaper way to directly market to a target audience. They know content creators have the trust of their audience, who will more likely going to do what they say.

It's all just a grift, folks.
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Old 02-04-2024, 05:05 PM   #167
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Watched one minute of an SCV vid, that's all I could take.
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Old 02-05-2024, 10:54 AM   #168
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I can't speak for modern card podcasts/content creators but I can tell you for a fact, as a 90s card podcast guy, I don't care about about gaining advertisers of any sort. I find it fun to talk to my buddies and bring guests on so other people can hear their story.

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It's fine to consume hobby content for their entertainment value. But I hope everyone realizes every content creator and influencer's goal is to build up an audience base to market to. It's ultimately just a grift. They want to gain your attention and trust so they can advertise to you. The sponsors are ultimately who matter.

This goes for literally everyone in the hobby. Even the Sports Card Radio bros, who like to act like outlaws and above the grift, clearly have some kind of relationship with Goldin. There's nothing wrong with that, but you've got to disclose that -- that's the ethical way of doing it.

The companies in the industry value influencers and content creators because it's an easier and cheaper way to directly market to a target audience. They know content creators have the trust of their audience, who will more likely going to do what they say.

It's all just a grift, folks.
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Old 02-05-2024, 09:45 PM   #169
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Sports Card Dad with good things to say about SCV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyim...eSportsCardDad
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Old 02-06-2024, 12:56 AM   #170
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It's fine to consume hobby content for their entertainment value. But I hope everyone realizes every content creator and influencer's goal is to build up an audience base to market to. It's ultimately just a grift. They want to gain your attention and trust so they can advertise to you. The sponsors are ultimately who matter.

This goes for literally everyone in the hobby. Even the Sports Card Radio bros, who like to act like outlaws and above the grift, clearly have some kind of relationship with Goldin. There's nothing wrong with that, but you've got to disclose that -- that's the ethical way of doing it.

The companies in the industry value influencers and content creators because it's an easier and cheaper way to directly market to a target audience. They know content creators have the trust of their audience, who will more likely going to do what they say.

It's all just a grift, folks.
Totally disagree -- there are many, many podcasts/YouTube channels for people to just discuss/rip/talk about their cards or other topics. One of my favorites is Mike's Retro Trading Cards -- nothing monetary about it.

However, I am HIGHLY skeptical of this guy -- Tales of the Trade:

- 8 videos in 2 months.

- Drops a "the Truth about Sports Card Collectors" video two weeks ago that is essentially promoting the following channels: CC2, Roth, SCI, Mojo, Trike, Packman, Dustin (Sports Card Dad), and Cases Loaded. Never heard of Cases Loaded, but the others we are all familiar with.

Is it a coincidence? Maybe, but the last thing we need is someone new parachuting in and "recommending" this basura as "wholesome content".

Then he drops a video yesterday stating:

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Old 02-06-2024, 02:40 AM   #171
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Totally disagree -- there are many, many podcasts/YouTube channels for people to just discuss/rip/talk about their cards or other topics. One of my favorites is Mike's Retro Trading Cards -- nothing monetary about it.

However, I am HIGHLY skeptical of this guy -- Tales of the Trade:

- 8 videos in 2 months.

- Drops a "the Truth about Sports Card Collectors" video two weeks ago that is essentially promoting the following channels: CC2, Roth, SCI, Mojo, Trike, Packman, Dustin (Sports Card Dad), and Cases Loaded. Never heard of Cases Loaded, but the others we are all familiar with.

Is it a coincidence? Maybe, but the last thing we need is someone new parachuting in and "recommending" this basura as "wholesome content".

Then he drops a video yesterday stating:
If a content creator gets popular enough, they can reach a point of doing it full time as a profession -- that's the goal of almost all of them. It's very hard for me to believe any of them would pass on the opportunity to take sponsorship money if it means making a career out of it.

But like I said, I have nothing against content creators taking sponsorship money as long as they disclose it to their audiences. But the truth is, content creators feel the need to hide their conflicts of interest in order to come across as "authentic" to their audiences -- they don't want to alienate them. They leverage the trust they build with their audiences to be able to market to and influence them. And I'm also guessing sponsors force content creators to sign NDAs, preventing them from disclosing the terms of their relationships.

And I know you're aware of the influencer networks in the hobby. That's why you see the associations between influencers -- it's mutually beneficial for influencers to share their audiences with each other.
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Old 02-06-2024, 09:57 AM   #172
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I haven't watched a second of SCV, but the video thumbnails remind me of what you'd see from Sports Card Radio.
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If a content creator gets popular enough, they can reach a point of doing it full time as a profession -- that's the goal of almost all of them. It's very hard for me to believe any of them would pass on the opportunity to take sponsorship money if it means making a career out of it.

But like I said, I have nothing against content creators taking sponsorship money as long as they disclose it to their audiences. But the truth is, content creators feel the need to hide their conflicts of interest in order to come across as "authentic" to their audiences -- they don't want to alienate them. They leverage the trust they build with their audiences to be able to market to and influence them. And I'm also guessing sponsors force content creators to sign NDAs, preventing them from disclosing the terms of their relationships.

And I know you're aware of the influencer networks in the hobby. That's why you see the associations between influencers -- it's mutually beneficial for influencers to share their audiences with each other.
I am of the opinion that if your primary source of income comes from this hobby, it is in your best interest to prostitute yourself for as much of it as you can get.

It's why I listen to and watch virtually nobody other than the friends here on BO. There is nothing these new people could possibly tell me that I don't already know. That sounds arrogant, it is, but anyone in this < 5-7 years is still an infant in card years.
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Watched one minute of an SCV vid, that's all I could take.
If it is the guy with the scribbles on a chalkboard yelling how everything sucks, yeah me to. Just seems like petty rant/click bait talking. I guess some find that entertaining, but I don't see any value in it.
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As someone who very rarely watches card content I’ll admit I sat down with a vodka n grapefruit bevy and watched the whiteboard guy for 15-20 minutes last night after feeding the kids dinner. While his methods for profit seemed far from revolutionary (buy raw/grade/flip when hot) I did find it a little entertaining in a Billy Blaze breaking down the world’s oldest profession kinda way.

The rapid fire circling and cross offs while injecting some honest win/loss experiences and snide shock jock like slander was pretty fun at times.
Overall it seemed more fun than the average from what I’ve seen


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