Why so little love for Blake Snell?

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by HeritageKing

Trout would never break his toe climbing out of the shower!

/end thread

Trout gets hurt walking through a sprinkler these days.

[LVDan]

Originally Posted by Rabs

All of a sudden he's good again.

Biggest pitching enigma in the sport. Couple more dominant starts after the break and he could bring a very big haul.

[quackhead]

Man I hope Snellzilla stays with the Padres.

[deemsterz33]

Blake Snell has more Cy Youngs than All Star Game appearances.

[rms13]

I can't remember a free agent reigning Cy Young winner who's seemed to have as little interest around the league as Snell. But not many Cy Young winners who avg 5 BB/9IP and have never pitched 8 innings in a major league game. And Boras factor is probably the biggest reason he's still on the market.

[Rabs]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

Blake Snell has more Cy Youngs than All Star Game appearances.

Can any other pitchers say that?

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by rms13

I can't remember a free agent reigning Cy Young winner who's seemed to have as little interest around the league as Snell. But not many Cy Young winners who avg 5 BB/9IP and have never pitched 8 innings in a major league game. And Boras factor is probably the biggest reason he's still on the market.

Bingo....most Boras clients are still available because Boras is waiting (as he usually does) until one team gets desperate and meets his ridiculously high asking price (and one team usually does).

It's his MO, and anybody who signs with him knows that's his strategy.

Bellinger, Montgomery, and Chapman are all also Boras clients (and still unsigned).

[ScooterD]

I agree that Boras is a factor, but I also think it has something to do with the player’s lack of a consistent health and track record. He has been named the best pitcher in his league (CY) twice, but it’s the other seasons that (IMO) are to blame for the interest. I wouldn’t touch him if I was an owner. Nothing against the guy

[hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

I agree that Boras is a factor, but I also think it has something to do with the player’s lack of a consistent health and track record. He has been named the best pitcher in his league (CY) twice, but it’s the other seasons that (IMO) are to blame for the interest. I wouldn’t touch him if I was an owner. Nothing against the guy

Yeah he's a 5 inning pitcher. Not someone you immediately want to hand 200 mill

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[mfw13]

Given that he's only topped 130 IP in a season twice in his career, he seems like the perfect candidate for an incentive-laden contract.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Given that he's only topped 130 IP in a season twice in his career, he seems like the perfect candidate for an incentive-laden contract.

Apparently his current asking price is 6-7 years and over $30 mil per year.

[mogwai316]

Originally Posted by Rabs

Can any other pitchers say that?

John Denny and Pete Vuckovich - 1 Cy Young, no all-star appearances. There might be more, I just checked all the multi-CY winners and a few random 1-CY winners.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by no10pin

Yes, he's a pitcher in Tampa Bay. If he wins a couple of Cy Youngs that will change, but combine his market with the growing lack of desire to invest in young pitchers, and that's pretty much it.

Nicely done.

[vwnut13]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Nicely done.

Well, not really.

Nobody buys his baseball cards and no teams want to sign him.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by vwnut13

Well, not really.

Nobody buys his baseball cards and no teams want to sign him.

Yeah, I actually predicted something to happen for once, and it still didn't work out. Maybe I should have said 'if he completes a couple of games'.

2 Cy Youngs and 0 complete games is still funny to me, even with how much the game has changed.

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

Blake Snell has more Cy Youngs than All Star Game appearances.

Not sure about his first Cy Young season, but he definitely didn't have a good start to the season last year, which is why he didn't get the All Star votes.

[Poidawg]

If Snellzilla gets another CY is he a future HoFer? The guys only 31 and maybe he and deGrom (35) have a chance to get to 3.

[BosCardGuy]

Originally Posted by gosstapo

What more can this kid do? Both in card sales (some autos sell for $1-$2 still) and in general sports hype? He's still young and is dominate... Just seems odd. Is it simply a case of Tampa Bay, nobody really cares?

What was it, 6 years between Cy Youngs? Something like that.

He's also not very young anymore.

And he's rubbed a lot of people the wrong way with the douchey way he talks.

[dream34]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Given that he's only topped 130 IP in a season twice in his career, he seems like the perfect candidate for an incentive-laden contract.

Originally Posted by rms13

Apparently his current asking price is 6-7 years and over $30 mil per year.

Exactly this. Better to sign him to a 1 Year $50 Million deal than a long term deal. 2 great seasons, both of them before new contracts. More WAR in each contract season than the 4 years total in between.

Same guy who didn't want to take a pay cut (for playing less games!) during the pandemic because "Bro, I'm risking my life".

Massively talented; mostly motivated, but mostly when it matters for him.

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by BosCardGuy

What was it, 6 years between Cy Youngs? Something like that.

He's also not very young anymore.

And he's rubbed a lot of people the wrong way with the douchey way he talks.

“You gon have to pay me extra if I get da rona” was one of the more cringe worthy quotes of his.

[base set]

Originally Posted by LVDan

Biggest pitching enigma in the sport. Couple more dominant starts after the break and he could bring a very big haul.

We will see. I bought 2 Topps Gold RC for what seemed like stupid cheap. But also because they really were, yup “Three.Fifty” - I mean, who could resist?

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by Poidawg

If Snellzilla gets another CY is he a future HoFer? The guys only 31 and maybe he and deGrom (35) have a chance to get to 3.

If he pitches @30 games a season for 8-10 more seasons, I think so.

[Chicosbailbonds]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Given that he's only topped 130 IP in a season twice in his career, he seems like the perfect candidate for an incentive-laden contract.

Dan Quisenberry had two seasons of 130+ innings also.

Yankees had offered 5/$150 mil. Doubt he sees a better deal.

[dfenno]

Originally Posted by Poidawg

If Snellzilla gets another CY is he a future HoFer? The guys only 31 and maybe he and deGrom (35) have a chance to get to 3.

After Kershaw, Verlander, Scherzer, Greinke and then Gerrit Cole someone will have to get in. I mean there will be clearly be lots of years with no SPs entering but it’s hard to imagine no one making it for many years. So yes, I think deGrom and Snell have a chance if they can do more. Same with Chris Sale.

Snell clearly wouldn’t make it with the old / current standards. But those standards are very likely to change. I may be a little biased, though, having picked up some Snell Topps Black RC during the playoffs this year.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by dfenno

After Kershaw, Verlander, Scherzer, Greinke and then Gerrit Cole someone will have to get in. I mean there will be clearly be lots of years with no SPs entering but it’s hard to imagine no one making it for many years.

Well, there are several excellent candidates who should get consideration from the various veteran's committees, such as Kevin Brown and Johan Santana.

And if you can get past his post-career behavior, Curt Schilling is certainly worthy.

So there will be strong starting pitcher candidates....it's just that they will be players who were overlooked the first time around, rather than newly retired players.