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Old 02-07-2024, 10:53 PM   #1
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Default What card(s) PEAKED higher than 1985 Topps McGwire in 1998?

Before grading was the norm, this card was selling for $250, UNGRADED and NOT the Tiffany version.

So i ask, what card(s) peaked higher?
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Old 02-07-2024, 11:08 PM   #2
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Which is approximately equal to $470 today.

The same very embarrassing hobby problem was happening in the summer of 1998 as was happening during the pandemic - the big flipper wet dream of being able to gouge unsuspecting hobby newbies. I distinctly remember mall show dealers/flippers constantly rambling on about how great an investment those cards truly were to unsuspecting and naive soccer moms. Bad times.
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Old 02-07-2024, 11:12 PM   #3
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Dale Murphy was the face of the MLB, especially the NL. After consecutive MVP’s in 82 & 83. Murphy had like dominant seasons in 84, 85 & 87. He was on the cover of the Beckets because he was the next Mantle before Trout. Injuries caught up to him and then it was Griffey, F. Thomas, Bonds.
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Old 02-07-2024, 11:13 PM   #4
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Which is approximately equal to $470 today.

The same very embarrassing hobby problem was happening in the summer of 1998 as was happening during the pandemic - the big flipper wet dream of being able to gouge unsuspecting hobby newbies. I distinctly remember mall show dealers/flippers constantly rambling on about how great an investment those cards truly were to unsuspecting and naive soccer moms. Bad times.
Yup. Who can forget those late night beanie baby and 1990 SCORE and 1988 DONRUSS FACTORY SET sales from DON WEST and they'll throw in ONE MORE box for just $299.99
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i was only a kid, but for those who are a little on the more on the vintage side of things, what was the peak of the Jose Canseco 86' Donruss rookie when he broke the 40/40 mark?

and this was 1988, so i wonder what the value would have been in today's terms.
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Which is approximately equal to $470 today.

The same very embarrassing hobby problem was happening in the summer of 1998 as was happening during the pandemic - the big flipper wet dream of being able to gouge unsuspecting hobby newbies. I distinctly remember mall show dealers/flippers constantly rambling on about how great an investment those cards truly were to unsuspecting and naive soccer moms. Bad times.
Come on man, it wasn't that bad in 1998. Grading was almost non-existent, there was no social media, and the $$ wasn't nearly as profitable today, etc.
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Old 02-07-2024, 11:23 PM   #7
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Another card that comes to mind is the 1981 Topps Montana. After he won his 4th and last SB in 1989, this card peaked at $175. This is 1989 and UNGRADED!
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Another card that comes to mind is the 1981 Topps Montana. After he won his 4th and last SB in 1989, this card peaked at $175. This is 1989 and UNGRADED!
1991 Stadium Club Frank Thomas was huge when I was in middle school.
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Old 02-07-2024, 11:41 PM   #9
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My mom drove me to a card show in Galesburg Illinois to meet Pete rose

At that show in 1988/89 ? I spent 100.00 to buy a 1986 donruss Jose canseco Rc

Remember my mom was shocked I spent all money on 1 card

I told her someday it could be worth 1000s

I also traded a 1996 topps chrome basketball set for a 1985 McGwire in 1998
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Before grading was the norm, this card was selling for $250, UNGRADED and NOT the Tiffany version.

So i ask, what card(s) peaked higher?
I was enjoying life in Chicago and really was not thinking of my cards back at my parents house. I think I had 7 or 8 McGwires and I probably still have all of them. Got back into collecting in the early 2000s and couldn't believe how high that card peaked.
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i was only a kid, but for those who are a little on the more on the vintage side of things, what was the peak of the Jose Canseco 86' Donruss rookie when he broke the 40/40 mark?

and this was 1988, so i wonder what the value would have been in today's terms.
The 1984 Donruss Don Mattingly hit $100 raw in 1987.

The 1986 Donruss Jose Canseco rated rookie hit $150 raw in 1988.

The 1989 Upper Deck Dale Murphy revneg hit $125 raw in 1989.

The 1989 Upper Deck Ken Griffey Jr. hit $100 raw in 1998.
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Come on man, it wasn't that bad in 1998. Grading was almost non-existent, there was no social media, and the $$ wasn't nearly as profitable today, etc.
It was really bad in 1998 going in to 1999. Do you remember the 1998-99 sp authentic vince carter?

What made it worse was that the population reports were REALLY LOW at the time because grading just started to take off and they were really, really strict back then. We're talking single digit pop reports on psa 10s for the major 80's rookie cards.

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Another card that comes to mind is the 1981 Topps Montana. After he won his 4th and last SB in 1989, this card peaked at $175. This is 1989 and UNGRADED!
1980 topps Rickey Henderson also hit $200 raw in 1989.

1984 Fleer update Puckett was $250 and Clemens was $300.
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Where did the Henderson RC peak?

'84 Fleer Update had some big cards.

Lots of cards peaked higher than $250.

I'm not sure I understand the rules of this contest.
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1980 topps Rickey Henderson also hit $200 raw in 1989.

1984 Fleer update Puckett was $250 and Clemens was $300.
Ha...I was just flipping through '91/'92 Becketts...too slow.

The LCS had a Henderson priced at $200 in the early 90s, but my Nov '91 Beckett has it at $165 and dropping. They were not quick to adjust prices.
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Ha...I was just flipping through '91/'92 Becketts...too slow.

The LCS had a Henderson priced at $200 in the early 90s, but my Nov '91 Beckett has it at $165 and dropping. They were not quick to adjust prices.
Good to know my memory is still intact, ha!

These are prices I remember seeing at card shows and actually selling for at card shows.

All before the internet!
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Yeah,

i don't really understand the rules of this. Sooooo many called up prospects were hotter than hell for varying periods of time. Kerry Wood, Strasburg, Dontrelle Willis, Jeff Francoeur, Jason Heyward were all guys that were blazing hot. I am sure many others can think of tons of players like that. McGwire and Sosa were both really hot that whole summer/fall, but I don't remember McGwires ever trading for that amount raw. I was at tons of shows and on ebay and the epic AOL message boards back then. Tons of volume for sure, but those prices were not really reached. Beckett just made up whatever they wanted. AROD was blazing hot by his 2nd season and his cards were on fire for quite some time. Vince Carter SP Authentic RC was also well over 1k as that set was on fire and the Slam Dunk contest made him a super duper star for a while. So many examples like this.....LINSANITY and Vinsanity were both at insano prices for a while.
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i don't really understand the rules of this. Sooooo many called up prospects were hotter than hell for varying periods of time. Kerry Wood, Strasburg, Dontrelle Willis, Jeff Francoeur, Jason Heyward were all guys that were blazing hot. I am sure many others can think of tons of players like that. McGwire and Sosa were both really hot that whole summer/fall, but I don't remember McGwires ever trading for that amount raw. I was at tons of shows and on ebay and the epic AOL message boards back then. Tons of volume for sure, but those prices were not really reached. Beckett just made up whatever they wanted. AROD was blazing hot by his 2nd season and his cards were on fire for quite some time. Vince Carter SP Authentic RC was also well over 1k as that set was on fire and the Slam Dunk contest made him a super duper star for a while. So many examples like this.....LINSANITY and Vinsanity were both at insano prices for a while.
I think he is just referring to mass-produced cards made in the 80's that hit triple digits raw in price.
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Old 02-08-2024, 01:49 AM   #19
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All the cards being brought up bring back good memories. I remember back in 1998 the 1985 Topps McGwire being talked about on news stations and in the newspaper about how much they were selling for. I also remember people selling and other wanting to buy the card in the classified section of the newspaper

1990 Leaf Thomas was around $100 during his back to back MVP years. Also when 1991 stadium club first came out I remember the Thomas and the Nolan Ryan Tuxedo card being around $40 each, now you can find them in bargain bins no problem.

I also remember 1992 team pinnacle card of Frank Thomas/Will Clark being $100 as well.

But 80’s cards were definitely the following
1984 Donruss Mattingly
1984 Fleer Update Clemens and Puckett
1985 Topps McGwire
1986 Donruss Canseco
1989 UD Griffey

The only cards I would add that people have not mentioned yet would be the 1982 Topps Traded Ripken and the 1984 Fleer Update Gooden.

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High # 1989 Upper Deck Jerome Walton's were on fire. I remember I had pulled so many Griffey's in the regular series I was rooting to pull Walton's over Griffey in the High #'s. Though i'm not sure I ever pulled a Griffey from the high # boxes.
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That McGwire card was truly the desired centerpiece to so many collections. I remember wanting one so bad, but they were no where near my budget as a kid. Took me many years to add one to the collection. Still an iconic card IMO. Love it.
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1990 Leaf Frank Thomas was another one.

I remember selling Leaf Kevin Maas RC's for a good amount also.
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Which is approximately equal to $470 today.

The same very embarrassing hobby problem was happening in the summer of 1998 as was happening during the pandemic - the big flipper wet dream of being able to gouge unsuspecting hobby newbies. I distinctly remember mall show dealers/flippers constantly rambling on about how great an investment those cards truly were to unsuspecting and naive soccer moms. Bad times.
Very dramatic take.

McGwire and Sosa put together a dream season that put baseball back on its feet after years of people not caring after the 1994 lockout. RCs of Sosa and McGwire were $1 and $5 in the years before and that home run chase was the highlight of 1998.

I get that you're grumpy, but don't edit what was actually happening back then to feed your hate for everything.
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During the home run chase of 98, boxes of 1990 upper deck were crazy!

WOW this thread unlocks so many memories.
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I remember when Gregg Jeffries 1988 cards were fire!
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