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Old 02-10-2024, 03:20 PM   #23801
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Yea, I dealt with Joel #@#@#@#@ Show. I made an offer, and it sat for several days with no response. Not sure if he's just slow to respond or doesn't respond. So I just canceled the offer.

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I find generally that this is NOT how it works, but there are 1 or 2 sellers that I know of that seem to do this. I will never understand that tactic, as I've had one seller (joelshitshow) raise the price on a card like this on me. I still check it from time to time and there it is listed at the slightly higher price 2 years later. I hope it was worth missing out on the sale!

I wouldn't let this discourage you. Usually not the case.
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Old 02-10-2024, 03:21 PM   #23802
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Yea, I will definitely not buy from him again, lol. Is there a blocked bidders/buyers list? Or a list to where you can add crappy sellers?

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Definitely not how it usually works. Most sellers will accept any fair offers. Or at least counter-offer with a price under their listing price.

The few dumb-dumbs who raise their price after getting an offer are a minority. Just steer clear of any sellers who do that - not worth dealing with them.
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Old 02-10-2024, 03:32 PM   #23803
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They are sort of working on a COMC beta, and you can make feature recommendations about things to add. However, it was less useful than the current site to me when they first rolled it out a few months ago, and I immediately went back to the original site.
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Old 02-10-2024, 04:05 PM   #23804
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Just started using COMC to buy for the first time. And I've got a question to see if this is how things normally work.

I found a card I wanted. Seller had it listed at $2.25. I made an offer of $2.10. Seller raised his price on COMC to $2.50 then countered at $2.45. Is it common for sellers to raise prices after you send an offer?

The card is of a guy that played 8 MLB games back in 2016, so no one has ever heard of him. So it's not like it's a hot card. It's probably a card he's had since 2011 when it came out.

So I"m just curious if that's the way eBay works. Seems kind of crappy business ethics. There's 2 others on COMC for less than his new asking. So I am going to decline the offer and buy another. I know it's only a quarter difference, but it's the principal.
Over time you will learn the sellers:

Who raises their price after an offer.
Let offers expire.
Reject any offers.
Ones who will counter with .01 or .02 off.
Ones with prices way to high and run 80% off to get close to a fair price.
Ones that just let their cards set at the same price for years.
Ones that are dropping the price to get rid of them.
Ones that are really slow (the day it is to expire) and others real fast (minutes after offered) on offers.

If you are around in 5 years you will see most of it if not all of it. Yes Joel is on top of most of our lists. I do not understand why block him or others as they may drop the price within your range on a card or two.
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Old 02-10-2024, 05:46 PM   #23805
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Just started using COMC to buy for the first time. And I've got a question to see if this is how things normally work.

I found a card I wanted. Seller had it listed at $2.25. I made an offer of $2.10. Seller raised his price on COMC to $2.50 then countered at $2.45. Is it common for sellers to raise prices after you send an offer?

The card is of a guy that played 8 MLB games back in 2016, so no one has ever heard of him. So it's not like it's a hot card. It's probably a card he's had since 2011 when it came out.

So I"m just curious if that's the way eBay works. Seems kind of crappy business ethics. There's 2 others on COMC for less than his new asking. So I am going to decline the offer and buy another. I know it's only a quarter difference, but it's the principal.

To be honest though, on your initial offer you were trying to save 15 cents.

Just pay up the full whack, and you won't have to worry if the seller ups the price.
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Old 02-10-2024, 05:50 PM   #23806
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To be honest though, on your initial offer you were trying to save 15 cents.

Just pay up the full whack, and you won't have to worry if the seller ups the price.
Guy who puts people on blast for his mistake on pricing should not call others cheap
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Old 02-10-2024, 05:53 PM   #23807
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I received a gem of an email from a support rep that I had not seen before about a correction request from three weeks ago not being successful, stating. "please remember that correction requests are only to be used for identification issues."

I sternly corrected them (in a professional way), reminding them that there is an option to request a correction for condition. I told them I have consistently had countless new cards taken out of packs, put straight in a sleeve and untouched before shipping, get an ex-nm or even a good-vg ex label. The ratio seems to be even higher on reflective cards such as prizms.

If I send 1000-1500 cards, I will get about 200 flagged, request correction on about 40 percent of them, and have over half of them get corrected. This means that 40-50 cards that I know of are not correctly graded on each shipment and that I would be losing money if I did not request to correct them.

If they want us to trust the process, make it more trustworthy.

Has anyone ever had a COMC rep try to tell them that?
Fresh out of the pack means nothing man. Tons of cards are damaged out of the pack. With your logic every card would grade a 10. I would have told you to go...
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Guy who puts people on blast for his mistake on pricing should not call others cheap

Hey! Another fanboy waiting in the wings. How ya doing, brah?
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Old 02-10-2024, 05:57 PM   #23809
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Hey! Another fanboy waiting in the wings. How ya doing, brah?
Fan boy of what LOLOLOL!!!! You are special and new here aren't you?
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Old 02-10-2024, 07:49 PM   #23810
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Fan boy of what LOLOLOL!!!! You are special and new here aren't you?

Btw, I found your wallet on the street. You must have dropped it by mistake. Mistakes happen.

There was almost 300 bucks in there, but I took all of it and left you enough for a cup of coffee. You're good with that, right?

If you want all your ID and credit cards back, that will cost you as well. I dunno call it a finders fee/grading fee/cost of being a cr4ppy human being fee.
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Old 02-10-2024, 07:56 PM   #23811
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Btw, I found your wallet on the street. You must have dropped it by mistake. Mistakes happen.

There was almost 300 bucks in there, but I took all of it and left you enough for a cup of coffee. You're good with that, right?

If you want all your ID and credit cards back, that will cost you as well. I dunno call it a finders fee/grading fee/cost of being a cr4ppy human being fee.
What are you on about? You were made whole for a mistake that YOU made and you want the person who “found your wallet” to be punished for “finding your wallet”.
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Old 02-10-2024, 07:58 PM   #23812
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Btw, I found your wallet on the street. You must have dropped it by mistake. Mistakes happen.

There was almost 300 bucks in there, but I took all of it and left you enough for a cup of coffee. You're good with that, right?

If you want all your ID and credit cards back, that will cost you as well. I dunno call it a finders fee/grading fee/cost of being a cr4ppy human being fee.
You got refunded! keep this to yourself and don't give others crap and advice for not paying a few more cents. You are an entitled...
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Old 02-10-2024, 08:24 PM   #23813
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What are you on about? You were made whole for a mistake that YOU made and you want the person who “found your wallet” to be punished for “finding your wallet”.

NTS: "Less than 10 minutes, and numbersCOMC will respond."

Hit that prop bet as well.
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Old 02-10-2024, 10:10 PM   #23814
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To be honest though, on your initial offer you were trying to save 15 cents.

Just pay up the full whack, and you won't have to worry if the seller ups the price.
.15 per card adds up really fast if you are buying a lot of cards. .15 on one card no big deal, but if you buy 100 that is $15.00. That may be 4 or 5 more cards for you.

It is only 5% off why not give it to the buyer?? O Hey it adds up for the seller also. Only way to know if they are willing to go a little lower is to ask.

He is complaining about the seller raising the price. If the seller just rejected it or counter with the same price you know that is his lowest and you have to pay that or find it cheaper with some other seller.
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Old 02-10-2024, 10:38 PM   #23815
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NTS: "Less than 10 minutes, and numbersCOMC will respond."

Hit that prop bet as well.
The owner's of COMC do NOT like me or 3124508. We have given them tons of crap. At one point I was their largest seller or close. You are a fool. It has nothing to do with comc. You are the target for your behavior.

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The owner's of COMC do NOT like me or 3124508. We have given them tons of crap. At one point I was their largest seller or close. You are a fool. It has nothing to do with comc. You are the target for your behavior.
Dude, you are not talking to some kid here. I would say we are about the same age. The numbersCOMC is likely younger.

I stand by everything I've written on the last couple of pages. The matter was done.

But, no! You felt the need to stir it up again. NumbersCOMC has his MO. Call me a fool all you want, but I know what my morals are all about.
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Old 02-11-2024, 06:56 AM   #23817
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Dude, you are not talking to some kid here. I would say we are about the same age. The numbersCOMC is likely younger.

I stand by everything I've written on the last couple of pages. The matter was done.

But, no! You felt the need to stir it up again. NumbersCOMC has his MO. Call me a fool all you want, but I know what my morals are all about.
Unfortunately, age does not equal wisdom. I think people are giving you a hard time because your attitude is crap. YOU made a mistake. YOU carelessly priced a $250 card for 2.50 then YOU put it out for sale. A guy saw a great deal and bought and you act like he reached into your pocket and mugged you. YOU didn't even drop your wallet. YOU entered a price and YOU hit save and YOU put a $250 card out there for sale without double checking. I'd have bought it too! YOU are an adult on a card buying & selling site, not some old lady who doesn't know what the card is worth (apologies to old lady card collectors!).
I remember one time I sold an an antique for $300+ dollars and then stopped for a coffee. Going back out to my van with my coffee I saw a $20 by my driver door. I reached down and saw the rest of the $300 under my van! Wow! How stupid and careless I was! I was lucky. If I was still a poor kid and found that money I'd take it every damn time.
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Yea, I dealt with Joel #@#@#@#@ Show. I made an offer, and it sat for several days with no response. Not sure if he's just slow to respond or doesn't respond. So I just canceled the offer.
Same. He's let a couple of my offers expire. But I've seen activity on his account. Maybe he's just really really busy and gets 500 offers a day! And yeah, there are those that will raise prices when you make an offer. I DO HAVE NO PROBLEM when I make an offer and a guy raises the price BUT counters with the original price. Feels fair. One guy who raised price after an offer actually has a user name of offersplease! lol no kidding.
Another of my favorites is a a user who doesn't accept offers but makes offers. I countered one of his offers with 10% and the user recountered with the original offer. I am always thrilled to undercut that users prices. Petty I know... but sometimes it's the little things.
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Old 02-11-2024, 01:20 PM   #23819
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Sure are a lot of YOU's / Ewes around these parts! Reminds me of a great scene in Good Will Hunting, when Sean asked Will what he wants to do.

That was brilliant acting and writing. I'd be paying attention to what Matt Damon said to elicit this response:

Sean/Robin Williams: "You're the shepherd."
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Yea, I dealt with Joel #@#@#@#@ Show. I made an offer, and it sat for several days with no response. Not sure if he's just slow to respond or doesn't respond. So I just canceled the offer.
My stance on this is that if it is a hot card I have no problem if somebody raises the price on me...

but if it is just a random card nobody wants then it is a annoying
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Old 02-11-2024, 04:51 PM   #23821
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Yea, I will definitely not buy from him again, lol. Is there a blocked bidders/buyers list? Or a list to where you can add crappy sellers?
He's really annoying about offers, but you probably wouldn't want to block him even if the site did allow it. He's one of the biggest sellers on the site so you'll probably run across other things that he has that you want. And he's one of the sellers that does periodically reduce prices for things that don't sell (although AFAICT never lower than 39 cents, for whatever reason), so there's a decent chance you can get the card you wanted at lower than the original price if you are prepared to wait.

Just don't make offers (unless you want to get him to raise the price on a card, which is occasionally useful as a seller).
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(although AFAICT never lower than 39 cents, for whatever reason)
39 cents is the price that gets cross-posted to eBay at the minimum 99 cent cost.
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Old 02-12-2024, 08:19 AM   #23823
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He's really annoying about offers, but you probably wouldn't want to block him even if the site did allow it. He's one of the biggest sellers on the site so you'll probably run across other things that he has that you want. And he's one of the sellers that does periodically reduce prices for things that don't sell (although AFAICT never lower than 39 cents, for whatever reason), so there's a decent chance you can get the card you wanted at lower than the original price if you are prepared to wait.

Just don't make offers (unless you want to get him to raise the price on a card, which is occasionally useful as a seller).
Is he really one of the biggest sellers? I have been on there since 2008 and I think I can only count on one hand the number of times I have ran across a card of his that I would have bought and probably less than two times that I have purchased anything from him. He might have quite a few cards on there, but that does not equate to sales. Maybe it does, I have no idea. 250k is a ton of listings.
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Another Monday morning, another pushback on an expected ship date. My last batch of 50 or 50 cards, originally expected to ship the first week of January I’ll now be lucky to see by opening day it appears.
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Is he really one of the biggest sellers? I have been on there since 2008 and I think I can only count on one hand the number of times I have ran across a card of his that I would have bought and probably less than two times that I have purchased anything from him. He might have quite a few cards on there, but that does not equate to sales. Maybe it does, I have no idea. 250k is a ton of listings.
He used to have over a million cards for sale. At one point, he was the biggest buyer. I don't know for sure, but he may have reduced a lot of his cards to single copies for sale.

Update: Joel*show still has over a million cards in inventory. He has 247k different cards listed.
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