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Stealing is wrong. Period. 26 47.27%
You had better be *literally* starving if you steal food. 12 21.82%
If I see someone steal food, I didn't see anything. 2 3.64%
My opinion of our current economic model leads me support theft of large corporations. 1 1.82%
Theft has always been a problem. Today's "problem" is nothing new. 8 14.55%
Theft is being normalized in a way that it hasn't been before. 27 49.09%
Nothing good comes from social media. 13 23.64%
Heck, I stole my avatar! 2 3.64%
What would Colton do? 5 9.09%
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Old 02-21-2024, 10:46 PM   #1
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Default Is theft becoming normalized in the United States?

I made the mistake of wandering off to other corners of the internet and was surprised to find threads with hundreds of replies not only defending theft—but openly encouraging it.

And not just theft of food or essential items, but of anything people could get their hands on.

Of course, I see that the press says this is all much ado about nothing, so I figured I'd make a poll about it.
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Old 02-21-2024, 11:02 PM   #2
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Lack of trust of institutions, no long term consequences for their actions, etc etc, its not very surprising. It's behavior that can't be accounted for but often is excused. If we all had this mentality that stealing was acceptable society would degrade even faster. Depressed yet?
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When people see the rich/elite and government officials stealing then yeah. Some states allow you to steal up to a certain amount for less charges, I think?
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Old 02-22-2024, 06:21 AM   #5
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I can think of a couple people who would if they could drive said car around to awe other people.
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It’s acceptable in the name of class warfare.
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Everything "bad" has become normalized in the US now with Social Media. Have you taken a gander at X lately? Its like Faces of Death at your finger tips mixed with Porn and Politics. Nothing is off limits anymore.
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We have truly raised the dumbest generation of revolutionaries ever.
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I like when theft is mentioned it's always the poor/lower incomes that first comes to mind - media controls the narrative, poor and low income are bad.

When I hear theft I think of all the white collar theft that goes on daily that never gets reported on or talked about.

Steal some stuff from Walmart/CVS/Walgreens and there's 400 articles on it. But an employer stealing time/tips/pay from employees, they pay a small fine and you'd be lucky to even get 4 articles out of it.

Theft is a problem but not at the level the media pushes. Want to end theft and crime? Fix poverty
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America's historical foundation is based on stealing and exploitation.
Color me shocked the capitalists are up in arms over it now.
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I like when theft is mentioned it's always the poor/lower incomes that first comes to mind - media controls the narrative, poor and low income are bad.

When I hear theft I think of all the white collar theft that goes on daily that never gets reported on or talked about.

Steal some stuff from Walmart/CVS/Walgreens and there's 400 articles on it. But an employer stealing time/tips/pay from employees, they pay a small fine and you'd be lucky to even get 4 articles out of it.

Theft is a problem but not at the level the media pushes. Want to end theft and crime? Fix poverty
Sometimes people steal because its easier to do that than it is to put in a hard day of honest work. Would be very difficult to fix people who don't want to do that. Not looking down on people who do so (honest days work) would be a good start. Nothing shameful about working hard and supporting your family.
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How would you fix poverty?
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America's historical foundation is based on stealing and exploitation.
Color me shocked the capitalists are up in arms over it now.
I would describe its historical foundation more so as being the inferior exporter of raw goods in an enforced mercantilist relationship with the mother country.
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I would describe its historical foundation more so as being the inferior exporter of raw goods in an enforced mercantilist relationship with the mother country.
Overlooks one of their biggest imports....slaves.
But your synopsis will serve you well in Florida and Texas academia should you transfer.
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Overlooks one of their biggest imports....slaves.
But your synopsis will serve you well in Florida and Texas academia should you transfer.
The Genocide narrative is just as lazy at the City on a Hill narrative.

History is more complex than what we can fit on a cardboard sign.
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Looks like the One Star Bandit gang have sticky fingers!
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The Genocide narrative is just as lazy at the City on a Hill narrative.

History is more complex than what we can fit on a cardboard sign.
People like lazy narratives.
It's the cornerstone of modern religion.
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People like lazy narratives.
It's the cornerstone of modern religion.
This is a valid critique.

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I like when theft is mentioned it's always the poor/lower incomes that first comes to mind - media controls the narrative, poor and low income are bad.

When I hear theft I think of all the white collar theft that goes on daily that never gets reported on or talked about.

Steal some stuff from Walmart/CVS/Walgreens and there's 400 articles on it. But an employer stealing time/tips/pay from employees, they pay a small fine and you'd be lucky to even get 4 articles out of it.

Theft is a problem but not at the level the media pushes. Want to end theft and crime? Fix poverty

I saw one of these people above comment of the theft of ten of thousands of dollars worth of merch from an apple store. Saying basically that people are stealing like this because they need to feed their families.
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How would you fix poverty?
Start with the obvious. Complete overhaul of the education system. Stricter standards to qualify to become a teacher.

The US is almost dead last in education and that has more to do with the teachers than the students.

If that can be fixed then we can start breaking the poverty cycle.
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Super easy. Barely an inconvenience
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Start with the obvious. Complete overhaul of the education system. Stricter standards to qualify to become a teacher.

The US is almost dead last in education and that has more to do with the teachers than the students.

If that can be fixed then we can start breaking the poverty cycle.
I like where you’re headed, so let me ask if the end goal is eliminating poverty or creating equality?

Basically do you see poverty as a relatively fixed baseline where—as long as people have X amount of calories, X amount of income, and all basic needs secured—they have no justification to steal? Or is it more so the distance between families and the resources they possess?

To put my cards on the table, I’d support going to full-blown s*cialist to ensure that every American child gets the best food, education, and opportunities in the world. Conversely, I’d be in favor of making fewer excuses for adults.
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I saw one of these people above comment of the theft of ten of thousands of dollars worth of merch from an apple store. Saying basically that people are stealing like this because they need to feed their families.
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Yeah, that crazy and they should be in jail for something like that.
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Guys... We can just to socialism. It totally works
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