Connor Bedard

[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by Ehawk89

What's sad it's got 31 bids and reached over 2k.

Sounds like 31 bids on a label — personally, I prefer to bid on a card

[DaveedTO]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

Yikes is right!





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The highest bidder is going to crack-trim & submit to PSA.

[onenineeightsix]

Modern grading is a scam. Unless the card predates 1952, at which point it's a 50-50 that it's a scam. Blows my mind that people pay the premiums they do for cards in slabs considering all the absolute bogus things PSA and BGS have done in their history.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by onenineeightsix

Modern grading is a scam. Unless the card predates 1952, at which point it's a 50-50 that it's a scam. Blows my mind that people pay the premiums they do for cards in slabs considering all the absolute bogus things PSA and BGS have done in their history.

People pay inflated prices for a lot of things. When is a t-shirt, car, or any of the other designer items worth the markup for a name? The fact of the matter people are buying a brand and are willing to pay more. Does anyone really think name brand and store bought goods are really that different?

[dcarado]

This is the Connor Bedard thread. "Grading is a scam" has hundreds of other threads in which to contribute your arguments that are clearly swaying the market by the day.

Wanted to see what thoughts were on the Amazon docu-series. NHL is such a niche market, but hopes are that Bedard will bring more eyes to the sport. Behind-the-scenes content has been a focal point for other sports, but hasn't been quite as effective for niche sports. Where does hockey land? I feel like it may be more like the golf series, where there just aren't enough personalities to attract attention from the casual sports fan, but who knows.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

People pay inflated prices for a lot of things. When is a t-shirt, car, or any of the other designer items worth the markup for a name? The fact of the matter people are buying a brand and are willing to pay more. Does anyone really think name brand and store bought goods are really that different?

This is correct

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by dcarado

This is the Connor Bedard thread. "Grading is a scam" has hundreds of other threads in which to contribute your arguments that are clearly swaying the market by the day.

Wanted to see what thoughts were on the Amazon docu-series. NHL is such a niche market, but hopes are that Bedard will bring more eyes to the sport. Behind-the-scenes content has been a focal point for other sports, but hasn't been quite as effective for niche sports. Where does hockey land? I feel like it may be more like the golf series, where there just aren't enough personalities to attract attention from the casual sports fan, but who knows.

Bedard will draw a few more eyeballs for curious ppl or bc of hype.

But long term, I don't think this really moves the overall hockey needle. How many ppl became (and stayed) hockey fans bc of Crosby/Ovi/McDavid?

[dcarado]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Bedard will draw a few more eyeballs for curious ppl or bc of hype.

But long term, I don't think this really moves the overall hockey needle. How many ppl became (and stayed) hockey fans bc of Crosby/Ovi/McDavid?

I get why the immediate comparison is McDavid/Ovi/Crosby, but I would argue he has potential to be more of a Steph Curry type star. True hockey fans are gonna watch regardless, but if Bedard can appeal to the younger watch-games-on-my-IG-feed crowd, that's where the needle-moving potential is.

[Asian62150]

Now that you mention it, hockey should lend itself well to the IG/TikTok crowd bc of the speed of the game/highlights that happen in the blink of an eye.

But does Bedard have the ability to change the way ppl actually play hockey like Steph did?

And another thing Steph did was appeal to the masses because he looks like an average dude out there (even though he's still over 6 feet). Bedard is a little on the smaller size but I don't know if he'll get the average person to think "hey, I can do what he's doing!"

I hope Bedard can make hockey more popular though. It's a pretty fun sport but ppl only seem to notice during the SC Playoffs.

[dcarado]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Now that you mention it, hockey should lend itself well to the IG/TikTok crowd bc of the speed of the game/highlights that happen in the blink of an eye.

But does Bedard have the ability to change the way ppl actually play hockey like Steph did?

And another thing Steph did was appeal to the masses because he looks like an average dude out there (even though he's still over 6 feet). Bedard is a little on the smaller size but I don't know if he'll get the average person to think "hey, I can do what he's doing!"

I hope Bedard can make hockey more popular though. It's a pretty fun sport but ppl only seem to notice during the SC Playoffs.

Yeah, I think hockey definitely has a different ceiling, as most 12-year-olds can go out in their driveways and jack up 3s like Steph or throw a football around, but aren't gonna be out there with a hockey stick shooting at garage doors. From the casual sports fan perspective though, the game does lend itself to the tiktok crowd watching clips. As a fan of most of the major sports, I think hockey is the best game to watch live, but the challenge for the leagues is to maximize the experience of the casual fan who isn't ever going to be a season-ticket holder. The NHL is obviously milking this as much as they can, so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by dcarado

Yeah, I think hockey definitely has a different ceiling, as most 12-year-olds can go out in their driveways and jack up 3s like Steph or throw a football around, but aren't gonna be out there with a hockey stick shooting at garage doors. From the casual sports fan perspective though, the game does lend itself to the tiktok crowd watching clips. As a fan of most of the major sports, I think hockey is the best game to watch live, but the challenge for the leagues is to maximize the experience of the casual fan who isn't ever going to be a season-ticket holder. The NHL is obviously milking this as much as they can, so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

Very true. You need an ice rink and like 9-10 other committed buddies to play some hockey. And that doesn't include buying/renting skates, and paying for ice time.

For most other sports, you can just take a ball and go to a park, or call up 1-2 guys and throw a football, shoot some hoops.

[anusinha]

I played plenty of street hockey growing up. A stick, a ball, and a fence or garage is all you really need at the most basic level.

[discostu]

Expecting Bedard to grow the game of hockey in any meaningful way is completely futile.

He's not Gretzky.

[ZappBrannigan]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Now that you mention it, hockey should lend itself well to the IG/TikTok crowd bc of the speed of the game/highlights that happen in the blink of an eye.

But does Bedard have the ability to change the way ppl actually play hockey like Steph did?

And another thing Steph did was appeal to the masses because he looks like an average dude out there (even though he's still over 6 feet). Bedard is a little on the smaller size but I don't know if he'll get the average person to think "hey, I can do what he's doing!"

I hope Bedard can make hockey more popular though. It's a pretty fun sport but ppl only seem to notice during the SC Playoffs.

What’s a Steph.

[LaloSalamanca]

D&A pulling the bounty has people thinking the 1/1 has been pulled...

[ThatGuyPal]

According to board members Bedard is gonna make hockey the most popular sport, Caitlyn Clark is gonna make WNBA the most popular league, and Carlos Alacaraz is gonna make your son wanna play tennis.

[Giroux]

Originally Posted by LaloSalamanca

D&A pulling the bounty has people thinking the 1/1 has been pulled...

They pulled the bounty off their site?

[NotGoSportsBall]

Someone in the BST section is offering up a Bedard YG PSA 10 at 3k/BO.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Now that you mention it, hockey should lend itself well to the IG/TikTok crowd bc of the speed of the game/highlights that happen in the blink of an eye.

But does Bedard have the ability to change the way ppl actually play hockey like Steph did?

And another thing Steph did was appeal to the masses because he looks like an average dude out there (even though he's still over 6 feet). Bedard is a little on the smaller size but I don't know if he'll get the average person to think "hey, I can do what he's doing!"

I hope Bedard can make hockey more popular though. It's a pretty fun sport but ppl only seem to notice during the SC Playoffs.

Peoole forget that the overall hobby is much larger, not necessarily hockey market, but many more fans and younger. Those of us who are hockey types, knew about Bedard, but his stardom and of course hype has done for hockey what did not happen for wemby.

Wemby is generational no doubt, but I bet most hockey people could care less about spending $1,000 on a Prizm box to pull him. On the other hand, basketball, football, and even baseball money is flowing into hockey like never before. The problem finding hockey at retail prices has a lot to do with the people coming over from those other sports.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

Peoole forget that the overall hobby is much larger, not necessarily hockey market, but many more fans and younger. Those of us who are hockey types, knew about Bedard, but his stardom and of course hype has done for hockey what did not happen for wemby.

Wemby is generational no doubt, but I bet most hockey people could care less about spending $1,000 on a Prizm box to pull him. On the other hand, basketball, football, and even baseball money is flowing into hockey like never before. The problem finding hockey at retail prices has a lot to do with the people coming over from those other sports.

Modern basketball feels really dead, even with Wemby most retail wax is barely selling above MSRP. Prizm is moving, but one wants Donruss or Hoops or anything else.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Now that you mention it, hockey should lend itself well to the IG/TikTok crowd bc of the speed of the game/highlights that happen in the blink of an eye.

But does Bedard have the ability to change the way ppl actually play hockey like Steph did?

And another thing Steph did was appeal to the masses because he looks like an average dude out there (even though he's still over 6 feet). Bedard is a little on the smaller size but I don't know if he'll get the average person to think "hey, I can do what he's doing!"

I hope Bedard can make hockey more popular though. It's a pretty fun sport but ppl only seem to notice during the SC Playoffs.

Originally Posted by anusinha

Modern basketball feels really dead, even with Wemby most retail wax is barely selling above MSRP. Prizm is moving, but one wants Donruss or Hoops or anything else.

Indeed and you can pretty much go into Walmart and find lots on the shelf of Basketball if you want to chase Wemby. As we know, that is not the case with Retail UD2.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

Peoole forget that the overall hobby is much larger, not necessarily hockey market, but many more fans and younger. Those of us who are hockey types, knew about Bedard, but his stardom and of course hype has done for hockey what did not happen for wemby.

Wemby is generational no doubt, but I bet most hockey people could care less about spending $1,000 on a Prizm box to pull him. On the other hand, basketball, football, and even baseball money is flowing into hockey like never before. The problem finding hockey at retail prices has a lot to do with the people coming over from those other sports.

Part of the problem with basketball is the wide discrepancy between the price of wax vs. singles (basically EV is way out of whack).

In general, I think 30% EV is pretty normal. But Prizm Hobby is probably around 10% or less (and many boxes are missing 1 or both autos).

At least if I hit a Bedard YG, I'm going to make my money back, even at $300/box. If I hit a base Wemby Prizm, I'm still down $900+ on a box of Prizm hobby. That's wild.

[ThatGuyPal]

It's not a competition but Wemby and Bedard aren't comparable at all, YG's can't be compared to a Prizm rookie when you get 6 YG's per box and you can't even compare it to his silver prizm as you get less of those than YG's per box. The price is also a huge factor as stated above, you can bet if Prizm was $300 a box it would be gone EVERYWHERE, and you wouldn't have a section of people still complaining about price as they did with S2. This year is pretty stacked rookie wise across sports but money can't go everywhere, so far the collecting world and flippers have deemed UD S2 one of if not the best flagship return possibilities so it's being bought up. It doesn't mean baseball guys aren't looking for Elly De La Cruz and are picking up the skates, it means they may try a box or blaster to ride the hype train and possible 2-3X their money. The same way a ton of hockey guys didn't become basketball fans when Zion was the more popular rookie over Laffy, other sports aren't becoming hockey fans they are cashing out lol are people happy to pull Bedard because they want it for their PC or have even watched a min or his games? No they are happy because they just pulled a card worth a nice chunk of change, I've only seen a few people where their excitement didn't feel financially motivated.

[ThatGuyPal]

Originally Posted by NotGoSportsBall

Someone in the BST section is offering up a Bedard YG PSA 10 at 3k/BO.

Annnnnnnd it's gone (Pending payment)

Gun control is getting pretty crazy when you can't put "Young Guns" on a PSA label....jk but really didn't know they didn't put that on the label

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

Annnnnnnd it's gone (Pending payment)

Gun control is getting pretty crazy when you can't put "Young Guns" on a PSA label....jk but really didn't know they didn't put that on the label

These things are still selling for 2500 a pop on ebay....... same as McDavid more or less