Star Co. Basketball is Hottt!

[Starman101]

I love both the 86F and StarXRC

With that being said I think the hobby has really embraced the Star XRC since PSA began grading them and collectors becoming more educated on the historical significance of them

Alot of Beckett myth of what defines a rookie card has faded with newer collectors who are not tied to the Fleer RC bias and lack of Star being graded in the past really suppressed the XRC

However I truly believe the XRC is THE MJ card to own and hold for the long haul

PSA now grading them coupled with their rarity is a no brainer really

PS: Please stop saying if there is ever a a PSA 10 Star 101....it simply will never happen...

With that being said I treat PSA 9 XRC as PSA 10 in the sense that is the highest graded copy with PSA 8.5s being at least an attainable given the astronomic price of a PSA 9

PSA 9 XRC is similar value to 2 PSA 10 86 Fleer....

Wind the clock ahead a decade and I can see more of a 5-7x as 86 Fleers continue to soften and PSA 9 XRCs will rarely show up for sale....

[6celtics33]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Early 80s MJ never won anything though, couldn't have been that good.

Nah you’re thinking of Lebron. Lebron never won anything.

Lebron got bronze on an Olympic team of nba players because…. Argentina or Greece in Fiba.

Jordan won gold with college kids and Bob Knight. And an ncaa title that he hit the game winner.

Thankfully the Bulls traded their coke heads for Horace and Scottie and they won nba titles then too.

[6celtics33]

Originally Posted by Starman101

I love both the 86F and StarXRC

With that being said I think the hobby has really embraced the Star XRC since PSA began grading them and collectors becoming more educated on the historical significance of them

Alot of Beckett myth of what defines a rookie card has faded with newer collectors who are not tied to the Fleer RC bias and lack of Star being graded in the past really suppressed the XRC

However I truly believe the XRC is THE MJ card to own and hold for the long haul

PSA now grading them coupled with their rarity is a no brainer really

PS: Please stop saying if there is ever a a PSA 10 Star 101....it simply will never happen...

With that being said I treat PSA 9 XRC as PSA 10 in the sense that is the highest graded copy with PSA 8.5s being at least an attainable given the astronomic price of a PSA 9

PSA 9 XRC is similar value to 2 PSA 10 86 Fleer....

Wind the clock ahead a decade and I can see more of a 5-7x as 86 Fleers continue to soften and PSA 9 XRCs will rarely show up for sale....

If they start grading the 101 the way they are grading the 195, there will be more and more 9s and maybe even a 10. Don’t ever say never.

Especially if one shows up with barely any borders being sold on consignment.

[johnscards]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

If they start grading the 101 the way they are grading the 195, there will be more and more 9s and maybe even a 10. Don’t ever say never.

Especially if one shows up with barely any borders being sold on consignment.

I agree with Starman 1000%. I don't think there will ever be a PSA 10 101. Just not going to happen. Which will add even more value and allure to the 101.

[mc1]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Nah you’re thinking of Lebron. Lebron never won anything.

Lebron got bronze on an Olympic team of nba players because…. Argentina or Greece in Fiba.

Jordan won gold with college kids and Bob Knight. And an ncaa title that he hit the game winner.

Thankfully the Bulls traded their coke heads for Horace and Scottie and they won nba titles then too.

Lebron played like 10 minutes a game. Jordan was the top scorer and leader.

Lebron took a bunch of scrubs to the finals at 22. Jordan never won a playoff series until Scottie helped him out.

[6celtics33]

Originally Posted by johnscards

I agree with Starman 1000%. I don't think there will ever be a PSA 10 101. Just not going to happen. Which will add even more value and allure to the 101.

There shouldn’t be. Doesn’t mean there won’t be. They are grading trimmed 195s left and right.

[6celtics33]

Originally Posted by mc1

Lebron played like 10 minutes a game. Jordan was the top scorer and leader.

Lebron took a bunch of scrubs to the finals at 22. Jordan never won a playoff series until Scottie helped him out.

Jordan did win with Scottie. Thats true. Lebron loses with whoever he gets. That’s the point. In 2006 he led the team in minutes but lost to Greece at fiba.

The world had caught up though. Papadopolis and company were a super team

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by mc1

Lebron played like 10 minutes a game. Jordan was the top scorer and leader.

Lebron took a bunch of scrubs to the finals at 22. Jordan never won a playoff series until Scottie helped him out.!

You get it.

[Hellcat]

How did LeBum get brought up in this thread?! Stick to the topic! Where's PCP?!

[YouTheManNick]

Originally Posted by Hellcat

How did LeBum get brought up in this thread?! Stick to the topic! Where's PCP?!

Anytime you see Jordan, you can be sure that LeBrand and his basic fans are sure to follow because that's what followers do.

[lebronicle]

It's weird how some MJ diehards can't see the name LeBron without seething with anger. Appreciate greatness!

[Starman101]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

If they start grading the 101 the way they are grading the 195, there will be more and more 9s and maybe even a 10. Don’t ever say never.

Especially if one shows up with barely any borders being sold on consignment.

I rarely rarely say never or all in my choice of words

But with only 3 PSA 9s to date the odds are really against it

In fact I'd wager in another 5-7 years there will still be less than a PSA 9 pop under 10. Those 9.5s appear more like PSA 8 or 8.5 at best so I don't see many crossovers

I have a very good shot of a PSA 9 cross on mine but I ain't crossing it yet as the grading fee be be exorbitant and I'd rather just buy other MJ cards if I see a good deal which are finally out there now as opposed to the newbie 2021 bubble

Ive never seen a XRC which could be PSA 10 and I've seen hundreds of 101s over the past 15 years

We shall see but I just don't see it

Just my take as I like yourself were Star fans way before the PSA validation of them being great

[GOATcards]

my brief little 101 story:
during one of the epic FOMO run-ups of the Jordan era, ca. 1992-93, I bought a 101 through a Tuff Stuff retailer without ever having seen a 101. Beckett hadn't printed a picture by then (it did a year or so later after a no-brainer customer request), and this was before the age of internet-quality information. So the card arrives, and there's basically two things about it: (1) the "thrill" of having MJ's first licensed card w/Bulls uni, and (2) the underwhelming appearance of the card itself. Over time the thrill of (1) wore off

These two things were in basic tension ever since

[jhssketchcards]

Originally Posted by lebronicle

It's weird how some MJ diehards can't see the name LeBron without seething with anger. Appreciate greatness!

GOATS don’t wear other players numbers







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[6celtics33]

Originally Posted by Starman101

I rarely rarely say never or all in my choice of words

But with only 3 PSA 9s to date the odds are really against it

In fact I'd wager in another 5-7 years there will still be less than a PSA 9 pop under 10. Those 9.5s appear more like PSA 8 or 8.5 at best so I don't see many crossovers

I have a very good shot of a PSA 9 cross on mine but I ain't crossing it yet as the grading fee be be exorbitant and I'd rather just buy other MJ cards if I see a good deal which are finally out there now as opposed to the newbie 2021 bubble

Ive never seen a XRC which could be PSA 10 and I've seen hundreds of 101s over the past 15 years

We shall see but I just don't see it

Just my take as I like yourself were Star fans way before the PSA validation of them being great

The first PSA 9 101 was a previous bgs 8.5. And I know one of the other 3 was bumped at the National in holder from PSA 8.5 to 9.

I understand your reasoning. I’ve just seen inconsistent grading standards change too much and be unevenly applied over the years to trust that. Not to mention the trimming.

[lebronicle]

Love the Star set. I recently graded the 83-84 Lakers team set.

[GOATcards]

those are generally nice Star cards of the '84 Lakers, funny cropping decisions notwithstanding (McAdoo is way over there so that Kareem can be in the picture lol), they have their charm and unlike with the MJ 101 you can actually make out players' faces/features

[GOATcards]

now it's got me thinking of going after some nice mid-'80s Star material of Lakers and Celtics especially; I have had my eye on a '85-86 Magic, the one with him in purple away jersey and white border, just haven't really honed in on those sets yet (why not? 101 disappointment aside. and I do got that '86 Court Kings Magic i've noticed that the cut varies quite a bit on that CK card BTW, slanted on bottom and/or top edges fairly frequently)

[lebronicle]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

now it's got me thinking of going after some nice mid-'80s Star material of Lakers and Celtics especially; I have had my eye on a '85-86 Magic, the one with him in purple away jersey and white border, just haven't really honed in on those sets yet (why not? 101 disappointment aside. and I do got that '86 Court Kings Magic i've noticed that the cut varies quite a bit on that CK card BTW, slanted on bottom and/or top edges fairly frequently)

Yeah I love the mid-‘80s Lakers releases from Star. The 86 championship set has the Dr. Buss/Kareem trophy card. It’s the only card printed during the Showtime era with Dr. Buss.




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[GOATcards]

the two Star cards I have in my collection currently

https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/si...5-Moses-Malone


https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/si...on?PageIndex=1


I really like the look of the '84-85 Olajuwon RC, definitely has the "it" factor that the MJ RC lacks IMO

[lebronicle]

Love the 86 Court King Magic


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[ozantoine]

I’ve been trying to get every Celtics Star card in BGS 9.5. Some of these are pop 1. Not sure what to do now since apart from Star my entire graded collection is PSA and mostly on the registry.


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[hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by ozantoine

I’ve been trying to get every Celtics Star card in BGS 9.5. Some of these are pop 1. Not sure what to do now since apart from Star my entire graded collection is PSA and mostly on the registry.


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Pretty!!! Now do the Knicks, will cost you a drop in the bucket by comparison lol

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[lebronicle]

Does anyone know if PSA has started grading sealed team packs?

[hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by lebronicle

Does anyone know if PSA has started grading sealed team packs?

They don't

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