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Old 05-12-2024, 04:42 PM   #1
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Sold a card to a friend of mine and did not disclose very obvious surface gouge. Stated card was near mint or better and it’s either a 6 or 7. Picture was taken in lighting where said defect could not be seen.

eBay sided with the seller on a return and also expunged the negative feedback. In true eBay fashion.

Link to auction, showing how card is turned to hide said defect: https://www.ebay.com/itm/31529287416...mis&media=COPY

Pic of card from my friend, after receiving, with said defect:


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Old 05-12-2024, 05:25 PM   #2
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I'd bet just about anything that the seller didn't notice the scratch on the card when selling. They seem to be pretty oblivious, and have horrid ratings for slow shipping so I'd never in a million years buy from them.

But it's pretty scary that you are positive that they intentionally hid the damage. Your proof doesn't add up at all.

On the off chance that I will take a photo just like this and miss a similar scratch, I would very quickly just block you and your mysterious friend. It is a very common mistake.

Your entire write up isn't really fair and is nit picking everything such as the generic ungraded near mint that they picked, and that it will grade a 6 or a 7. Got news for you on that too, I wouldn't be surprised if this got a 8 and calling this a "gouge" is just another example of trying to lay it on thick.

Anyhow, will stay away from this seller obviously, but would stay soooo far away from you and your friend. Sounds like a huge headache.
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Old 05-12-2024, 06:20 PM   #3
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I'd bet just about anything that the seller didn't notice the scratch on the card when selling. They seem to be pretty oblivious, and have horrid ratings for slow shipping so I'd never in a million years buy from them.

But it's pretty scary that you are positive that they intentionally hid the damage. Your proof doesn't add up at all.

On the off chance that I will take a photo just like this and miss a similar scratch, I would very quickly just block you and your mysterious friend. It is a very common mistake.

Your entire write up isn't really fair and is nit picking everything such as the generic ungraded near mint that they picked, and that it will grade a 6 or a 7. Got news for you on that too, I wouldn't be surprised if this got a 8 and calling this a "gouge" is just another example of trying to lay it on thick.

Anyhow, will stay away from this seller obviously, but would stay soooo far away from you and your friend. Sounds like a huge headache.
Not sure where this post came from? Seller took one pic, and his description was inaccurate. I’m not a guy to return cards myself, and he isn’t either. But when you’re paying $193… and a lesson learned for my mysterious friend.

By the way, in the return dispute the seller claimed that he provided multiple pictures of the card. He didn’t provide any more other than the one in his listing.

Now, that being said, what’s your eBay username?
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Old 05-12-2024, 06:41 PM   #4
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Not sure where this post came from? Seller took one pic, and his description was inaccurate. I’m not a guy to return cards myself, and he isn’t either. But when you’re paying $193… and a lesson learned for my mysterious friend.

By the way, in the return dispute the seller claimed that he provided multiple pictures of the card. He didn’t provide any more other than the one in his listing.

Now, that being said, what’s your eBay username?
What's yours, and your friends? You are the one making these things public and calling out other users.

Kinda scummy you actively want to go out of your way to harass more people, simply because they disagree with you. Instead of directly responding to the fair critiques, you go for an attack. There is a reason most people on here don't post their user names, and it's tactics like this. Kinda insane logic to think that because someone disagrees with you that somehow you're entitled to their information. But not surprised per your OP.
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Old 05-12-2024, 07:08 PM   #5
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What's yours, and your friends? You are the one making these things public and calling out other users.

Kinda scummy you actively want to go out of your way to harass more people, simply because they disagree with you. Instead of directly responding to the fair critiques, you go for an attack. There is a reason most people on here don't post their user names, and it's tactics like this. Kinda insane logic to think that because someone disagrees with you that somehow you're entitled to their information. But not surprised per your OP.
My eBay username is parallels. Here’s a link to my eBay: https://www.ebay.com/usr/parallels

My friend’s eBay username: nearlybluegreen
Link: https://www.ebay.com/usr/nearlybluegreen

He does not have an account on BO.

I’m defending myself. He had a bad experience (and was kinda scammed).
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Old 05-12-2024, 07:46 PM   #6
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My eBay username is parallels. Here’s a link to my eBay: https://www.ebay.com/usr/parallels

My friend’s eBay username: nearlybluegreen
Link: https://www.ebay.com/usr/nearlybluegreen

He does not have an account on BO.

I’m defending myself. He had a bad experience (and was kinda scammed).
One million percent any card person would believe eBay should've allowed a return here. I agree you were cheated, but wholeheartedly disagree with how you came up with how you were scammed. The seller takes all of his pics in a similar way, and the angle he took it at wouldn't matter with it being in that holder. I only say you were cheated because any respectable seller would've accepted a return here, even if it is arguable what condition guidelines this falls under. Making you keep the card is pure BS. Clearly this seller isn't respectable and his feedback proved that.

Agreed it's a big dollar amount and it's definitely not cool to receive cards with a huge scratch across the middle and be expected to keep it, regardless of what grade it may or may not receive. I'm 10000% on your side, I was only pointing out how wild it is to jump to the conclusion that the photos were made intentional to hide the scratch from the get go, and that they intentionally lied about the condition. It's too far a leap and a really wild one to make, and stuck out like a sore thumb when reading your OP. It would be an enormous red flag for me. If you led off by accusing the seller of doing a thing to begin with, it would sort of change the story a little bit as that's a wild accusation that no seller would appreciate.

I'll respect the fact that you're heated and you want vengeance, but sticking to facts and not glorifications is better. The facts were good enough. In this case... seller sold this card, this is what was received. Wouldn't accept return. Block him he sucks.
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Old 05-12-2024, 09:50 PM   #7
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When you say a 6 or a 7, a 7 is a PSA NM, so technically that’s NM or better if it actually was a 7.

Not really gonna defend the seller though. Generally on eBay when a buyer complains with issues like this, eBay just lets them return it. Kinda surprised they didn’t tbh. This is one case where eBay AG might have been helpful.
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Old 05-15-2024, 07:01 PM   #8
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When you say a 6 or a 7, a 7 is a PSA NM, so technically that’s NM or better if it actually was a 7.

Not really gonna defend the seller though. Generally on eBay when a buyer complains with issues like this, eBay just lets them return it. Kinda surprised they didn’t tbh. This is one case where eBay AG might have been helpful.
He reached out to eBay and they said the original refund request was outside of the return window/buyer guarantee for eBay by 2 days. Oh well, hope my friend learns a lesson.
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Old 05-15-2024, 07:54 PM   #9
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He reached out to eBay and they said the original refund request was outside of the return window/buyer guarantee for eBay by 2 days. Oh well, hope my friend learns a lesson.
That makes more sense, was gonna say eBay basically lets buyer return that as a rule of thumb. Indeed a lesion learned.
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Old 05-16-2024, 06:14 AM   #10
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My eBay username is parallels. Here’s a link to my eBay: https://www.ebay.com/usr/parallels

My friend’s eBay username: nearlybluegreen
Link: https://www.ebay.com/usr/nearlybluegreen

He does not have an account on BO.

I’m defending myself. He had a bad experience (and was kinda scammed).
Thanks both blocked
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Old 05-22-2024, 11:08 AM   #11
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He reached out to eBay and they said the original refund request was outside of the return window/buyer guarantee for eBay by 2 days. Oh well, hope my friend learns a lesson.
How is that Ebay or the sellers fault to be honest? The return window is clearly stated. The only person to blame here is your friend on that part. Not defending the seller but buyers have a responsibility to know the rules and follow them as much as sellers do. Had he followed them he would have been refunded. Ebay sides with buyers 99.9% of the time when they follow the rules.

If he paid with a CC he could still possibly go that route.

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