PSA holder enhancements

[HalfNipponese]

I'm so temped.

[BoKnowsCards]

Originally Posted by HalfNipponese

I'm so temped.
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That looks cool to try out!

[discodanman45]

The new card grader will look like my high school woodshop teacher. 2/3 remaining fingers per hand.

[BoKnowsCards]

So I did try #3 at cracking the new PSA slabs just now. It was successful, I got the card out undamaged, and it took maybe 60 seconds. I used another low dollar PSA 6. This time I put the card in my freezer for two hours - why? Because the new slab plastic melts much faster with the Dremel and this helped with that - there wasn't as much of a plastic melt mess, a little but not nearly as much as yesterday. I then made two cuts to both top corners. I inserted a screwdriver & pried and the top half of the slab popped right up, but the bottom half wasn't budging. So I made two more cuts to the bottom half of the slab - I still pried with my screwdriver from the top but the two cuts gave me wiggle room at the bottom and most (but not all) of the bottom came up. There was enough space and the card came out easily. I didn't completely remove the front of the slab (see the second picture where it's like a clam mouth), but there was plenty of room for the card to come out so I stopped there. So instead of taking 20 seconds to crack the old slabs it takes 60 seconds now with the new slabs.

[prospectorgems]

Originally Posted by BoKnowsCards

So I did try #3 at cracking the new PSA slabs just now. It was successful, I got the card out undamaged, and it took maybe 60 seconds. I used another low dollar PSA 6. This time I put the card in my freezer for two hours - why? Because the new slab plastic melts much faster with the Dremel and this helped with that - there wasn't as much of a plastic melt mess, a little but not nearly as much as yesterday. I then made two cuts to both top corners. I inserted a screwdriver & pried and the top half of the slab popped right up, but the bottom half wasn't budging. So I made two more cuts to the bottom half of the slab - I still pried with my screwdriver from the top but the two cuts gave me wiggle room at the bottom and most (but not all) of the bottom came up. There was enough space and the card came out easily. I didn't completely remove the front of the slab (see the second picture where it's like a clam mouth), but there was plenty of room for the card to come out so I stopped there. So instead of taking 20 seconds to crack the old slabs it takes 60 seconds now with the new slabs.

Can I send all my slabs to you that need cracking? Haha, just kidding...maybe.

[towerymt]

Did the "seal" between the two halves feel any stronger than older holders?

I've usually clipped off a corner at the top, slid the label out, inserted flat blade screwdriver along the length of the label space, and twist. That usually pops the seam along the very top of the holder. Then start working on opening that gap at the top. I try not to point the screwdriver towards the card if I can avoid it. I also don't like sliding a screwdriver down the sides to split the halves because it could shove into the edge of the card.

Fracturing over top of the card is worst case scenario (that photo on pg 1)

[bsavidge83]

Originally Posted by BoKnowsCards

So I did try #3 at cracking the new PSA slabs just now. It was successful, I got the card out undamaged, and it took maybe 60 seconds. I used another low dollar PSA 6. This time I put the card in my freezer for two hours - why? Because the new slab plastic melts much faster with the Dremel and this helped with that - there wasn't as much of a plastic melt mess, a little but not nearly as much as yesterday. I then made two cuts to both top corners. I inserted a screwdriver & pried and the top half of the slab popped right up, but the bottom half wasn't budging. So I made two more cuts to the bottom half of the slab - I still pried with my screwdriver from the top but the two cuts gave me wiggle room at the bottom and most (but not all) of the bottom came up. There was enough space and the card came out easily. I didn't completely remove the front of the slab (see the second picture where it's like a clam mouth), but there was plenty of room for the card to come out so I stopped there. So instead of taking 20 seconds to crack the old slabs it takes 60 seconds now with the new slabs.

I never read posts in order but just did... And I was thinking the whole time stick one in the freezer! Glad you found some success!

[Baraka]

Are these new ones going to be the same as BGS holders?

[Gene]

The video wasn't explicit, but have they tightened the tolerances so the cards don't rattle around in the holders anymore? That's the only thing I really disliked about PSA slabs.

[Dereth]

Originally Posted by Gene

The video wasn't explicit, but have they tightened the tolerances so the cards don't rattle around in the holders anymore? That's the only thing I really disliked about PSA slabs.

They specifically said that the cards don't move in the slabs anymore, so that must be the case. No more Newton's Rings as well.

[redgem]

The new slabs weigh 2oz, the old ones weigh 1.6oz. So when I buy PSA 9s to crack and resub I weigh them first so I know what I am dealing with. The old 1.6 oz slabs take about 10 seconds to crack. The new 2.0 oz slabs take about 5-10 minutes because you have to snip cut the complete top and side off, then carefully slide out the card as you are prying open the slab. I've done many of them and only f'd up one.

[MJGOAT23]

Just got my 1st order back w/ the new slabs. Def a tad heavier, sturdier and the plastic is ultra clear. Big improvement

Edit - has anyone noticed that the Cardboard Gold Perfect fit PSA sleeves cause a reaction to the slab and it creates a cloudiness and scratches...I recently had a buyer ask to return a card because the case was all scratched and it was a brand new slab...I just put some new sleeves on these and noticed it happened almost instantly.

Last, is anyone seeing a small scratch like line on the top left corner , I assume it's the case...I have a half dozen or more out of this order with the same line, haven't even gone through everything yet.

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by MJGOAT23

This has been noted before with sleeves. I try to only hold the edges while pulling the sleeve onto the PSA holder. If you're holding the slab by pinching on the front/back surface while sliding the sleeve, then I bet this could be worse and more noticeable.

[MJGOAT23]

Originally Posted by towerymt

This has been noted before with sleeves. I try to only hold the edges while pulling the sleeve onto the PSA holder. If you're holding the slab by pinching on the front/back surface while sliding the sleeve, then I bet this could be worse and more noticeable.

So you think it's a physical damage from sliding the slab into the sleeve? It seems more like a chemical reaction - this haze/cloudiness that is also present. Why would a sleeve scratch the slab? Especially with these new scratch resistant slabs. its very weird and I only notice it with these specific sleeeves (so far)

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by MJGOAT23

So you think it's a physical damage from sliding the slab into the sleeve? It seems more like a chemical reaction - this haze/cloudiness that is also present. Why would a sleeve scratch the slab? Especially with these new scratch resistant slabs. its very weird and I only notice it with these specific sleeeves (so far)

Tight fitting sleeves like superior fit sleeves will definitely scratch PSA slabs like this if you put pressure on the front of the slab. I have done this myself. You need to only apply pressure on the side of the slab like Tower suggested. It is most likely fine particles that are on the surface of the slab or inside the sleeve or just plastic rubbing on the sleeve. I got a few of these new slabs in my last order and the plastic seems incredibly soft. If the old slabs can be scratched with sleeves, these new ones are going to be even worse.

You can usually buff out these scratches pretty easily off the slabs. I used Meguirs Plastx Clear Plastic Cleaner and Polish in the past and it worked extremely well.

[MJGOAT23]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

Tight fitting sleeves like superior fit sleeves will definitely scratch PSA slabs like this if you put pressure on the front of the slab. I have done this myself. You need to only apply pressure on the side of the slab like Tower suggested. It is most likely fine particles that are on the surface of the slab or inside the sleeve or just plastic rubbing on the sleeve. I got a few of these new slabs in my last order and the plastic seems incredibly soft. If the old slabs can be scratched with sleeves, these new ones are going to be even worse.

You can usually buff out these scratches pretty easily off the slabs. I used Meguirs Plastx Clear Plastic Cleaner and Polish in the past and it worked extremely well.

Originally Posted by towerymt

This has been noted before with sleeves. I try to only hold the edges while pulling the sleeve onto the PSA holder. If you're holding the slab by pinching on the front/back surface while sliding the sleeve, then I bet this could be worse and more noticeable.

Thanks for the replies. I'l have to be super careful with these or pony up for some polish

[bryanscs]

Cardboard Gold also uses cheap plastic for their PSA sleeves, so be careful!

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by MJGOAT23

Last, is anyone seeing a small scratch like line on the top left corner , I assume it's the case...I have a half dozen or more out of this order with the same line, haven't even gone through everything yet.

Yup, I noticed the line in the corner when I got my recent orders back. Its on every slab. Hope its just a small defect for the first batch... its small but ruins eye appeal

[MJGOAT23]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

Yup, I noticed the line in the corner when I got my recent orders back. Its on every slab. Hope its just a small defect for the first batch... its small but ruins eye appeal

I'm not too happy, I had Brady 2012 1st Prizm that 10'ed, a wemby prizm base PSA 10 that I was going to keep and a Luka prizm RC that gemmed and I can't stand looking at that corner slice. wtf PSA

[redgem]

Yes, the tight fitting sleeves scratch the surface both front and back. Apply some scratch removal polish to the slab and it will take the scratches out.

[waytoomanycards]

Just realized my last order has the old psa slabs, which is good since it came out of NJ and there were a few I wanted to crack out.

The one before that had new slabs with the corner scratch issues noted above. Wonder if they ended up scrapping a bunch of them?

[Skers7071949597]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

Yup, I noticed the line in the corner when I got my recent orders back. Its on every slab. Hope its just a small defect for the first batch... its small but ruins eye appeal

My latest 10 card ultra modern order in the new slabs had 2 cards with a very visible scratch coming from the exact same spot (looks to be more on the card than the slab). Thought they were 2 of my most likely 10’s in the order but got an 8&9. Not very valuable or important cards so not gonna cry about it, but they definitely have an issue with something in the new process right now.

[waytoomanycards]

Go with the flow, fellas. (Seriously, who invented the expression flow lines?)

http://https://x.com/JunkWaxHero79/s...04544548900922

[duron]

[goodole13]

Are there anyways to tell the difference between the new cases and the previous case just by looking at pictures?