The Price Index Carnage Is Real

[bub838]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Yes, I was able to bust some at a more reasonable price than peak.

That's great. What about this case break you posted two weeks after release. Had the breakers moved on and the product gotten substantially cheaper so quickly? Or are you just a degen ripper boi?

[YayNJ]

he state of you both ffs

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by bub838

That's great. What about this case break you posted two weeks after release. Had the breakers moved on and the product gotten substantially cheaper so quickly? Or are you just a degen ripper boi?

You mean the case I pre-bought?

At least it was a fun rip.

I opened several more later as well.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

You mean the case I pre-bought?

At least it was a fun rip.

I opened several more later as well.

That's great and I'm happy for you, degen ripper boi.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by bub838

That's great and I'm happy for you, degen ripper boi.

One of the funnest parts of the hobby like how it was always meant to be.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

One of the funnest parts of the hobby like how it was always meant to be.

You're right, and I also love ripping wax. But I'm not pretending I'm not contributing to the current state of the hobby. FFS you're soloing cases of Dynasty of all things, I can't even degen that hard.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by bub838

You're right, and I also love ripping wax. But I'm not pretending I'm not contributing to the current state of the hobby. FFS you're soloing cases of Dynasty of all things, I can't even degen that hard.

I drew the line on dynasty this year, unlike the degenerate gamblers. I also open a lot of heritage and other products the breaker bois don’t want. It’s been fun times as much wax has tanked. 2022 chrome ginter is a fun value rip at $75/box.

[ScooterD]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

I drew the line on dynasty this year, unlike the degenerate gamblers. I also open a lot of heritage and other products the breaker bois don’t want. It’s been fun times as much wax has tanked. 2022 chrome ginter is a fun value rip at $75/box.

So every person who has busted Dynasty this year is a degenerate gambler?

So much focus on other people’s actions and money. You must have more than 24 hours in your day. Please stop criticizing people that you don’t know.

[Twalk1975]

It's a pretty common misconception that pessimism is associated with intelligence. I suspect that's why it's a popular stance to take on Blowout and social media in general.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

So every person who has busted Dynasty this year is a degenerate gambler?

So much focus on other people’s actions and money. You must have more than 24 hours in your day. Please stop criticizing people that you don’t know.

Stop taking offense to something you are not(?)

[KhalDrogo]

Bitching and moaning about someone else bitching and moaning always is a good use of time.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

I drew the line on dynasty this year, unlike the degenerate gamblers. I also open a lot of heritage and other products the breaker bois don’t want. It’s been fun times as much wax has tanked. 2022 chrome ginter is a fun value rip at $75/box.

I drew the line on Bowman last year for the first time in a very long time. It's just too much for what you get.

Breakers 100% open products like Heritage and Ginter Chrome, though. Don't underestimate them, they break anything.

[ScooterD]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Bitching and moaning about someone else bitching and moaning always is a good use of time.

You’re right - I could be degrading every new release or predicting that Wemby’s rookie season will be a flop.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

No worse than your pumping, er, expert advice, in case everyone missed it:

As for you never pumping, let’s see how good “your call” is on 2024 bowman baseball sapphire at $600, which is the current price you referred to that was quoted by bcr on eBay.

“Zero chance they fall. They might not rise much since the market is soft in the summer time, but they aren't going down.”

That took me two seconds to find.

Huh? Are you living in your own world that the rest of cannot see? Where did I say anything about $600 for Bowman Sapphire? I said they wouldn't fall. They are out the door in the neighborhood of $475 depending on where you live with taxes and such. They won't fall, which is what I said. I don't care what random people are listing them for on the secondary market. I also said they probably would NOT rise right now. So now you are calling people pumpers for saying something will hold in value? Geez, you are truly amazing. Just completely making stuff up now.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

You’re right - I could be degrading every new release or predicting that Wemby’s rookie season will be a flop.

That would be more useful than you continuing to subject yourself to hermano’s nonsense by not just putting him on ignore.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by premium1981

Huh? Are you living in your own world that the rest of cannot see? Where did I say anything about $600 for Bowman Sapphire? I said they wouldn't fall.

You misread the posts you were replying to.

Originally Posted by Bcr

I noticed the same thing as well with the price point. Also considering Montgomery members got 3 emails in regards to missing out must tell us something.

Box prices have ticked up a bit to around $600 on Ebay, but once the public has access that number should go down at least short term.

I am thoroughly enjoying seeing Topps get ripped on Twitter comments.

https://x.com/Topps/status/1798078267452498293

Originally Posted by AwesomeBrian

You really think prices gonna drop with 4 parallels plus an auto coming out? Nah

Originally Posted by premium1981

Zero chance they fall. They might not rise much since the market is soft in the summer time, but they aren't going down.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

You misread the posts you were replying to.

I was going back and looking for myself to see where that figure came from. I didn't realize he was talking about a quote from a quote that I didn't even reply to. I was just replying in general saying box prices are not going to fall. There should be plenty available under $600 for the near future.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Bcr

I noticed the same thing as well with the price point. Also considering Montgomery members got 3 emails in regards to missing out must tell us something.

Box prices have ticked up a bit to around $600 on Ebay, but once the public has access that number should go down at least short term.

I am thoroughly enjoying seeing Topps get ripped on Twitter comments.

https://x.com/Topps/status/1798078267452498293

Originally Posted by AwesomeBrian

You really think prices gonna drop with 4 parallels plus an auto coming out? Nah

Originally Posted by premium1981

Zero chance they fall. They might not rise much since the market is soft in the summer time, but they aren't going down.

Originally Posted by premium1981

Huh? Are you living in your own world that the rest of cannot see? Where did I say anything about $600 for Bowman Sapphire? I said they wouldn't fall. They are out the door in the neighborhood of $475 depending on where you live with taxes and such. They won't fall, which is what I said. I don't care what random people are listing them for on the secondary market. I also said they probably would NOT rise right now. So now you are calling people pumpers for saying something will hold in value? Geez, you are truly amazing. Just completely making stuff up now.

Moving goal posts again.

I thought they only did that in the football section.

You are bordering Bbases level pumping right there.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Moving goal posts again.

I thought they only did that in the football section.

You are bordering Bbases level pumping right there.

If moving goal posts is me saying I never said something that I actually never said, then yes I am guilty as charged. And for the record, looks like I am wrong. On the low side. All of the boxes $600 and under have been bought after they sold out immediately on the site. So they are going up immediately.

I find it incredibly fitting of your character to claim:

A) Poster said something about price.
B) A different poster commented.
C) A third poster commented on the second poster.

Herman logic says person "C" said "A". Just to fit your miserable narrative that you feel is your duty to continue spreading. Stay classy. I'm just disappointed that you made an entire post without name calling. That is unusual.

[tyrith]

Juan Soto's market is a highly idiosyncratic one. There are a bunch of unique factors -

1) He was one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse in the COVID baseball market (with Acuna, VGJ, and Tatis) and has always had psychotically high prices based on that.
2) While this is shaping up to be the best season of his career, it's not like he wasn't already a star and wasn't already on track to be a first ballot HOF. He's 25 and should be getting into his peak years - pricing in a year like this wasn't exactly crazy. And it's not that much better than 2020/2021 were for him if he stays on these rates.
3) Soto has very few rookie autos versus any other star player that's had RCs in 2018 or later, but then he's turned around and signed in pretty much every veteran auto set ever since. His vet autos get massively suppressed in price because there are a relentless quantity of them.

There's a lot of headwinds to his prices actually going up, I think.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by premium1981

If moving goal posts is me saying I never said something that I actually never said, then yes I am guilty as charged. And for the record, looks like I am wrong. On the low side. All of the boxes $600 and under have been bought after they sold out immediately on the site. So they are going up immediately.

I find it incredibly fitting of your character to claim:

A) Poster said something about price.
B) A different poster commented.
C) A third poster commented on the second poster.

Herman logic says person "C" said "A". Just to fit your miserable narrative that you feel is your duty to continue spreading. Stay classy. I'm just disappointed that you made an entire post without name calling. That is unusual.

Disingenuous for you to claim this when hermano flatly was referring to your $600 benchmark which you’ve since retracted because you misread what you were quoting. Don’t the two of you ever get tired of talking right past one another?

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by premium1981

I was going back and looking for myself to see where that figure came from. I didn't realize he was talking about a quote from a quote that I didn't even reply to. I was just replying in general saying box prices are not going to fall. There should be plenty available under $600 for the near future.

We have a profound genius here folks.

“The call” is that 2024 bowman sapphire won’t drop below the price at which flipper bois and breaker bois are paying to obtain boxes directly from Topps.

How in the world do you get such fine prognostication skillz?

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by premium1981

If moving goal posts is me saying I never said something that I actually never said, then yes I am guilty as charged. And for the record, looks like I am wrong. On the low side. All of the boxes $600 and under have been bought after they sold out immediately on the site. So they are going up immediately.

I find it incredibly fitting of your character to claim:

A) Poster said something about price.
B) A different poster commented.
C) A third poster commented on the second poster.

Herman logic says person "C" said "A". Just to fit your miserable narrative that you feel is your duty to continue spreading. Stay classy. I'm just disappointed that you made an entire post without name calling. That is unusual.

I’m not the only one who read it that way.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Disingenuous for you to claim this when hermano flatly was referring to your $600 benchmark which you’ve since retracted because you misread what you were quoting. Don’t the two of you ever get tired of talking right past one another?

I didn't retract anything. I never said or quoted anything about $600.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

I’m not the only one who read it that way.

I lose brain cells when I engage with you. As I just stated, I never quoted or said anything about $600. I replied to a post where I saw someone talking about the price of these boxes and I made a general statement saying they would not go down. Simple as that. And then you felt the need to do what you do. I'm moving on. Carry on with your nonsense.