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[Dmoneycards]

Originally Posted by sheldonbeswift

To put things in perspective, you signed up for a promotional service level with a clearly stated 50 business day turnaround. Now you're disappointed because, after your previous orders were completed in half the expected time, here you are...30 business days in...just waiting for the grades to pop.


We all want instant gratification, but turnaround times have been great. Let's not turn ourselves into entitled twits. After all, there are other service levels available.

The point of this is what is the reasoning for something sitting in Assembly ✅ for weeks at a time rather than just revealing the grade? What is the hold up at that point as it indicates the Assembly process is finished.
This was not an “entitled” complaining about turnaround times comment as you so kindly put it but a genuine question as to what is the reasoning for delays at this stage.

[sheldonbeswift]

Originally Posted by Dmoneycards

The point of this is what is the reasoning for something sitting in Assembly ✅ for weeks at a time rather than just revealing the grade? What is the hold up at that point as it indicates the Assembly process is finished.
This was not an “entitled” complaining about turnaround times comment as you so kindly put it but a genuine question as to what is the reasoning for delays at this stage.

Oh...in that case...I don't think any of us really know what goes on "behind the curtain" - we just rely on past experience, and the experiences of others.

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by Dmoneycards

The point of this is what is the reasoning for something sitting in Assembly ✅ for weeks at a time rather than just revealing the grade? What is the hold up at that point as it indicates the Assembly process is finished.
This was not an “entitled” complaining about turnaround times comment as you so kindly put it but a genuine question as to what is the reasoning for delays at this stage.

Usually means you have an upcharge and PSA needs to contact you.

[thenightman]

It's now officially two weeks since PSA picked up my order and it still says "Order Arrived".

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by Dmoneycards

The point of this is what is the reasoning for something sitting in Assembly ✅ for weeks at a time rather than just revealing the grade? What is the hold up at that point as it indicates the Assembly process is finished.
This was not an “entitled” complaining about turnaround times comment as you so kindly put it but a genuine question as to what is the reasoning for delays at this stage.

Check the old version of site putting in your order number for the xxx and if it's on QA Check 2 and doesn't say review order at the top then it's waiting on upcharge

https://www.psacard.com/myaccount/myorder?o=xxx

[Dmoneycards]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Check the old version of site putting in your order number for the xxx and if it's on QA Check 2 and doesn't say review order at the top then it's waiting on upcharge

https://www.psacard.com/myaccount/myorder?o=xxx

Fascinating. So I have 2 orders with the Assembly ✅ currently. 1 has the Review Order showing above the Order number and the other does not. So what you’re saying is that the one that does not show Review Order is currently working on figuring out Upcharges while the other one is….done with that?

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by Dmoneycards

Fascinating. So I have 2 orders with the Assembly ✅ currently. 1 has the Review Order showing above the Order number and the other does not. So what you’re saying is that the one that does not show Review Order is currently working on figuring out Upcharges while the other one is….done with that?

Review order step comes first then review dissappears then list of cards may or may not disappear

[inaka]

Originally Posted by DKsportscardsWI

Just got smoked by a PSA grader. Vintage order. 3 months to get these grades. woof.

11 Cards
1x N5: altered stock
3x N6: Min Size (one was cracked from BVG)

I have never gotten that many in one order in my life.

For vintage, you might be interested in the recent video by Chris Sewall showing some really inexplicable grades on multiple vintage card orders he sent in to PSA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G259m49jP1E

This guy is as mild-mannered as they come and is often very forgiving with PSA, but even he can't explain some of these grades.

Over year or so ago (maybe two?) when PSA had a vintage special, I too got slammed with some absurd grades on multiple PSA vintage orders. I vowed never again to grade vintage with them, and have shifted all my vintage grading to SGC. I still grade more "modern" 80s and beyond with PSA, but I can't do it anymore with PSA for the earlier stuff. Just too widely inconsistent for me.

[NShoreCardboard]

May Modern Special
# of cards: 31 ( All Ultra Modern Football )
Shipped to PSA: 5/31/24
Delivered: 6/3/24
Order received per PSA: 6/3/24
Research & ID: 6/20/24
Grading:
Assembly:
Grades Ready:
QA:
Shipped:

[NShoreCardboard]

May Modern Special
# of cards: 31 ( All Ultra Modern Football )
Shipped to PSA: 5/31/24
Delivered: 6/3/24
Order received per PSA: 6/3/24
Research & ID: 6/20/24
Grading:
Assembly:
Grades Ready:
QA:
Shipped:

[Sonnys88]

Originally Posted by inaka

For vintage, you might be interested in the recent video by Chris Sewall showing some really inexplicable grades on multiple vintage card orders he sent in to PSA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G259m49jP1E

This guy is as mild-mannered as they come and is often very forgiving with PSA, but even he can't explain some of these grades.

Over year or so ago (maybe two?) when PSA had a vintage special, I too got slammed with some absurd grades on multiple PSA vintage orders. I vowed never again to grade vintage with them, and have shifted all my vintage grading to SGC. I still grade more "modern" 80s and beyond with PSA, but I can't do it anymore with PSA for the earlier stuff. Just too widely inconsistent for me.

Just checked out the video. PSA has been really all over the place on their vintage grading for the last few years (some might say longer).

There is zero consistency. You can send in the same card one day and get a 5, then send it in another day and get an 8 or 9.

No one outside of PSA really knows why, but many think it is because there is an influx of newer graders who are only experienced in handling ultra-modern cards. They are applying the same thought process used for grading ultra-modern to vintage cards. Grading vintage has way more nuance to it than ultra-modern.

[sheldonbeswift]

Originally Posted by sheldonbeswift

MAY 1980-PRESENT SPECIAL
# of cards: 33
Order Arrived: May 9, 2024
Order Prep: May 22, 2024
Research & ID: May 28, 2024
Grading: June 3, 2024
Assembly: June 11, 2024
Grades Ready: June 18, 2024
QA Checks: June 18, 2024
Complete:

GEM MINT 10: 20 -- 61%
MINT 9: 9 -- 27%
NEAR MINT-MINT 8: 3 -- 9%
NEAR MINT 7: 1 -- 3%

Moved to completed today. Shipping from Jersey City, NJ.

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by inaka

For vintage, you might be interested in the recent video by Chris Sewall showing some really inexplicable grades on multiple vintage card orders he sent in to PSA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G259m49jP1E

This guy is as mild-mannered as they come and is often very forgiving with PSA, but even he can't explain some of these grades.

Over year or so ago (maybe two?) when PSA had a vintage special, I too got slammed with some absurd grades on multiple PSA vintage orders. I vowed never again to grade vintage with them, and have shifted all my vintage grading to SGC. I still grade more "modern" 80s and beyond with PSA, but I can't do it anymore with PSA for the earlier stuff. Just too widely inconsistent for me.

1)
https://www.psacard.com/cert/87167636

Really hard to tell without having the card in hand, but I see some things that could be reasons, like this surface ripple line thingy at the upper right corner of this one. Is it something? I don't know.



2)
This one got a 3.
https://www.psacard.com/cert/87641158

I think it's a 4. Could be the toning/dirt is more of a surface issue than we can see. There's a very small dent in the surface just below the top white border.

"This should be a six". <-- No, it shouldn't be a six. Corners alone would make that a soft 5 in my opinion. Corner dings, bending on the surface near the corner, the true extent of the corner damage that we can't asses...that's what's hard to see in the video.



3)
The '68 Rose 4 might have a line from the left edge to the bottom of the 'C' on his hat, could be a high spot / wrinkle. With the surface of old cards not being 100% glossy smooth, it's really hard to tell.

4)
I think the AUTH mantle is short top to bottom. Not rattling in the PSA holder is not an indication of anything. I compared the image to a PSA-4 I found on ebay and that's how I determined it. If you size the images to be about the same and flip back and forth, the number-graded card I found was longer than the AUTH card. I certainly could be mistaken, but that's what I did to check.

5)
1959 Jim Brown 4 -- immediately notice a dimple dent on the '3' of his jersey. That looks very obvious and shows up quite clearly in the video as he rotates the card back and forth.



Most, I couldn't really spot anything I could call out.

Fun exercise.

I don't think this guy knows all the things to look for that will cause grades to be lower than EX-MT.

[inaka]

Originally Posted by towerymt

I don't think this guy knows all the things to look for that will cause grades to be lower than EX-MT.

I will respectfully disagree as this guy had been a dealer and grader for decades and this isn't his first rodeo as he has made numerous grading videos on his channel.

[evileddie]

Had a 55 card order just pop and got hammered.

16 - 10's
34 - 9's
3 - 8's
1 - 7.5
1 - 7

17 of the cards were from Topps Chrome Black, which aren't easy to grade, but only 2 10's out of those. For the record I won't send in a card unless I am pretty sure it's a solid 9 with a chance at a 10. Well I got my 9's.

Not sure if the order is shipping from CA or NJ yet.

[sheldonbeswift]

Originally Posted by evileddie

Had a 55 card order just pop and got hammered.

16 - 10's
34 - 9's
3 - 8's
1 - 7.5
1 - 7

17 of the cards were from Topps Chrome Black, which aren't easy to grade, but only 2 10's out of those. For the record I won't send in a card unless I am pretty sure it's a solid 9 with a chance at a 10. Well I got my 9's.

Not sure if the order is shipping from CA or NJ yet.

FWIW, every single one of my 2023 Obsidian cards have come back 9’s. I didn’t note anything on any of them, just can’t seem to pull a 10 on the product.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by towerymt

Most, I couldn't really spot anything I could call out.

Fun exercise.

I don't think this guy knows all the things to look for that will cause grades to be lower than EX-MT.

I experienced the same thing as Chris Sewall recently with things grading much harsher in the past. If you want to, you could look at the majority of 50/60's cards and automatically put them at a 4 because of the surface. The cardboard is not uniformly smooth like modern cards and I think some of these inexperienced PSA vintage graders think it is damage like dents. Especially under magnification. PSA has always shown leniency in the past with how a card is cut, the surface of the cardboard, and even not being as harsh with diamond cuts. I have seen PSA grading differently recently and it is pretty obvious that something is different.

A few things could be having high turnover in the grading departments and having inexperienced graders. Having two locations is another situation that could cause issues. You have two separate teams grading cards applying their own standards. The last is probably the biggest reason for vintage being graded so poorly right now. PSA is too big for their own good. In the past there were probably the same 5 graders grading all the vintage cards. Now that is probably 20 graders with higher turnover.

[jetcollectibles]

I know folks have complained about the NJ center, but I've been submitting mostly TCG orders the past year or so and I've had pretty good experiences. I've submitted mostly new TCG sets, so not surprisingly each location typically has pretty high gem rates for me. The downside I've noticed is almost every order I get back from CA has quality control issues with cards backwards, thumbprints, fuzz, label issues, etc. I just got back an order today from CA and once again had to do a CRC for three of the cards. I'm starting to think the NJ location might be mostly TCG experienced staff whereas CA is more sports experienced. It might also explain why people's sports submissions from NJ have had worse grades.

[umoeig]

Order Type: May 1980 to Present Special
Received per USPS: 6/7/24
Order Prep: 6/7/24
Research: 6/21/24
Grading:
Assembly:
Grades Ready:
Shipped:
Estimated Completion Date: 9/3/24

[Perfect JF]

Submission #20
Order Type: Value Bulk 15.99$ specials
# of cards: 23
Order shipped: 05/30/2024
Order received per PSA: 06/03/2024
Entered Research & ID: 06/11/2024
Grading: 06/21/2024
Assembly:
Popped:
Shipped:

[discodanman45]

Still just sitting at PSA...

Order Type: March Vintage Special
# of cards: 12
Order received per PSA: 4/1
Entered Research & ID: 4/9
Grading: 4/11
Assembly:
Grades Available:
Shipped:
Estimated Completion Date: 7/12

[jplarson]

Order Type: May: 1980-Present Special
# of cards: 10
Order shipped: 5/11
Order received per PSA: 5/13
Entered Research & ID: 5/24
Grading: 5/30
Assembly: 6/13
Grades Available:
Shipped:
Estimated Completion Date: 8/5

[metsandweezer]

Anyone get an email about the mystery packs that PSA is promoting from courtyard.io?

[Singinbobbo]

Did a Regular Service submission. 10 business days. Arrived June 3. Estimated completion June 18. Still in Assembly. Seems to happen every time I pay for faster turnaround, I don’t get it.

[jjo1776]

My June Special package seems to be stuck in Newport Beach USPS facility, just says Moving Through Network In Transit to Next Facility, Arriving Late

Been there since last Thursday

Anybody ever had there’s stuck?