Please tell me ebay seller midwestdeals123 is on here

[bub838]

Originally Posted by NotGoSportsBall

I will resend my previously rejected offers every few weeks to see if the seller has changed their mind yet. Sometimes they have.

I’m currently enjoying watching a card being marked down every few days, past the point of my original offer. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.

I love checking in on a card and the current ask is below what I offered two weeks ago. I get a kick out of it.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by hammertime

This guy had a 1957 Al Kaline auto listed at $250 OBO. I offered $200. He countered at $240. I countered at $225. He declined it and raised the price to $350. When I messaged him he seemed upset that I countered at $225...? I don't understand why sellers turn on offers if they aren't willing to negotiate at all. Someone please tell me I'm crazy. Do these people not actually want to sell the things they list?

Plenty of sellers simply aren’t interested in being part of a hobby.

Technically if they’re looking for profit they aren’t by definition.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

This talk about low-balling offersÂ….the card in question OPÂ’s offer was 10% offÂ…

The party making the d*** move in this scenario is the seller. And they have every right to make that d*** move of course, as pricing is totally under their control. They can raise it to $10,000 because OP made a 10% off offer. Let them sit on the card as long as they want. Itd be silly to structure your selling strategy around being vindictive to one buyer, but hey it’t their right. Let it affect the seller and their ability to sell it.

If I were OP I wouldnÂ’t want to deal with the seller either going forward. (this has happened to me plenty on COMC, the ol reject and raise strategy. And whenever I come across the cards again, IÂ’m not surprised at all they remain unsold).

As somebody who has been on both sides, I have purchased and I have busted open product and then attempted to sell. I remember purchasing a product from Classic and it was a promotional Die Cut set with Chris Webber, Alex Rodriguez, Jerome Bettis a couple other ND football players and more. I listed them on EBay on what I thought was a extremely limited quantity that I had researched “Classic filed Chapter & had its cards in a warehouse” . A EBay member told me he was interested but not for the $45 I had them listed at. He stated they were worth probably $5 for the lot and the set should go for no more than $25. I lowered the price and he laughed that I only received $20 shipped for the ND Classic C3 Die Cuts. I later told him I sold the ARod for $100 alone and sold the hockey players for roughly $20. Of course I didn’t receive a reply back but I wasn’t expecting one.

I also opened 2 cases of 96 Press Pass football at $45 a box and was extremely shorted on the Emerald Proofs. I put a South Carolina lot of different Gamecocks all in College Uni for $13 + $2 S&H. A Gamecock collector contacted me that he only wanted the Steve Tanneyhill Emerald Proof for a $1. I replied I would trade him the card if he found a Emerald Proof of Tommie Frazier. He told me I was asking to much of him to search for me. I told him I listed a more than fair lot if not taking a significant loss since I didn’t receive 24 Emerald Proofs in the 25 boxes + that I purchased. It was more like 3 for every 5 boxes. Once again I didn’t receive a reply and I told myself I’m only going to sell by the collection or I’ll pick and choose who I will deal with.

This was 2 decades ago. We all want good deals but to say anybody knows exactly what somebody has paid for a box hit probably has never purchased multiple cases or buying out multiple dealers because it’s not cheap.

[Badgers0821]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Plenty of sellers simply aren’t interested in being part of a hobby.

Technically if they’re looking for profit they aren’t by definition.

I was wondering how long it would take for this to pop up.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

You have shown that if you actually are the seller, the childish behavior is not the exception. It's just who you are. Not sure why anyone would deal with you.

Ehh, lighten the frack up grumpy arse. Nobody needs your righteousness in this thread.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Ehh, lighten the frack up grumpy arse. Nobody needs your rightenous in this thread.

A Buckeye wanting something for nothing, who would have thought, lol a little rub. Ohio is probably a great guy but I would love to find out in this thread the risk vs reward members. In other words, who has busted cases vs the members who are selective. Sellers can be like a car dealership or a parts dealership. I’ve purchased on both levels but it’s clear that many have not.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Stifle

As somebody who has been on both sides, I have purchased and I have busted open product and then attempted to sell. I remember purchasing a product from Classic and it was a promotional Die Cut set with Chris Webber, Alex Rodriguez, Jerome Bettis a couple other ND football players and more. I listed them on EBay on what I thought was a extremely limited quantity that I had researched “Classic filed Chapter & had its cards in a warehouse” . A EBay member told me he was interested but not for the $45 I had them listed at. He stated they were worth probably $5 for the lot and the set should go for no more than $25. I lowered the price and he laughed that I only received $20 shipped for the ND Classic C3 Die Cuts. I later told him I sold the ARod for $100 alone and sold the hockey players for roughly $20. Of course I didn’t receive a reply back but I wasn’t expecting one.

I also opened 2 cases of 96 Press Pass football at $45 a box and was extremely shorted on the Emerald Proofs. I put a South Carolina lot of different Gamecocks all in College Uni for $13 + $2 S&H. A Gamecock collector contacted me that he only wanted the Steve Tanneyhill Emerald Proof for a $1. I replied I would trade him the card if he found a Emerald Proof of Tommie Frazier. He told me I was asking to much of him to search for me. I told him I listed a more than fair lot if not taking a significant loss since I didn’t receive 24 Emerald Proofs in the 25 boxes + that I purchased. It was more like 3 for every 5 boxes. Once again I didn’t receive a reply and I told myself I’m only going to sell by the collection or I’ll pick and choose who I will deal with.

This was 2 decades ago. We all want good deals but to say anybody knows exactly what somebody has paid for a box hit probably has never purchased multiple cases or buying out multiple dealers because it’s not cheap.

That’s all well and good, but not really changing the point or even relevant. Regardless of what the seller paid for the card (we don’t even know if he got it from breaking wax, maybe he just bought it), he had it for sale at 250 obo and was willing to sell it for 240. Not really important how he came about the card. He then jacked up the price after a 10% off base price offer was made. As I said, kind of a vindictive, d*** move, but in his right.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

That’s all well and good, but not really changing the point or even relevant. Regardless of what the seller paid for the card (we don’t even know if he got it from breaking wax, maybe he just bought it), he had it for sale at 250 obo and was willing to sell it for 240. Not really important how he came about the card. He then jacked up the price after a 10% off base price offer was made. As I said, kind of a vindictive, d*** move, but in his right.

It’s not rare to see re-listed cards go for a much higher price. Why does this occur, IMO, there are new collectors in this hobby every day. It only takes 1 person to complete a sale and 2 to compete in a sale. It’s not vindictive for the seller to want or sell his card at the most profitable price possible. You may believe it’s vindictive because you didn’t receive the asking price and now the seller can adjust to a higher asking price and then lower it to $250, it’s nothing new in the hobby.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Stifle

It’s not rare to see re-listed cards go for a much higher price. Why does this occur, IMO, there are new collectors in this hobby every day. It only takes 1 person to complete a sale and 2 to compete in a sale. It’s not vindictive for the seller to want or sell his card at the most profitable price possible. You may believe it’s vindictive because you didn’t receive the asking price and now the seller can adjust to a higher asking price and then lower it to $250, it’s nothing new in the hobby.

I mean it sounds like the seller did it right after the OP sent an offer for 10% off asking price….pretty sure it’s likely to be related.

[Midwestdeals123]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Yes, I'm here. Eat a bowl of ducks. I'd rather burn it than sell it to you.

^^^^ this

[ThoseBackPages]

[PuddleMonkey]

Speaking of Al Kaline, any of you neckbeards have a 2002 Fleer Genuine Ink for sale?

[lemmer]

Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

Speaking of Al Kaline, any of you neckbeards have a 2002 Fleer Genuine Ink for sale?

I respect the grind puddlemonkey, this is just one of the countless signs that you collect harder than us

[PoPCulture]

At least the question posed in the thread title has finally been answered. Now onto the juicy part….

[1989FF]

Originally Posted by slogue2

That is very over the top and very funny.

It was quite the surprise that I'll never forget. Wish I saved the pic.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by bub838

I love checking in on a card and the current ask is below what I offered two weeks ago. I get a kick out of it.

Right after 2023 Platinum Anniversary came out, I bought a true gold of my PC guy for ~$10 AFTER accepting a counteroffer back from a seller.

The next day, the seller cancels for "out of stock/damaged" and re-listed for over 3X more than our agreed upon price.

I'm happy to say the seller has since cut the price in half of the re-listed bump and it's still sitting.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

If a seller doesn't want to the play the offer counter-offer game, then turn up the minimum offer to what you really want it to be, turn it off altogether, or play along.

People are weird.

It depends on the site.
On COMC, whenever I list cards, I list them slightly lower than the lowest one listed. Right after I list them, I get an onslaught of exactly 50% offers on most of the cards. Apparently it's a strategy for some people there. And I always reject every one. If my cards sit there for a week or two and I get the same offers, I may accept them. But not in the first day they are listed. If I put them on COMC, it's because I don't want them. Of course I know if I accept those first day offers, they'll be insta-relisted for the price I had them at originally.

[LondonGames]

Originally Posted by hammertime

I think a lot of people feel this way, based on my experience as a seller. A lot of people will send an offer and if I counter I never hear from them again. Then again there are people just shotgunning out lowball offers in the hopes that one will occasionally get accepted, and I get that too.

This is turning into a broader discussion and honestly that's great, but regarding this situation, I'd just like to note my highest offer of $225 on a $250 card was a 10% discount. Again I'd say if you're going to have a meltdown over someone asking for 10% off maybe just turn off the offers option. And if you're going to have a meltdown over a buyer making a counter, maybe don't counter them to begin with.

And yes I know it's the seller's card blah blah, I'm not sure what that adds to the conversation TBH. It's obvious, they can raise the price, they can set it on fire and send me a pic of the ashes too if they want to, that doesn't make it a cool thing to do.

"he seemed pretty upset" "he had a meltdown"

honestly, with no context at all besides your interpretation of a private discussion, it's hard to take at face value.

but I will say that given what happened, your needing to start a thread on the topic kinda paints you as the one that is mad & having the meltdown. maybe you both did, but right now only you get the title you're trying to drop on the seller.

[Rickey]

If you have DEALS in your username & refuse a 90% offer, change your ID to more accurately reflect your business model or remove the best offer feature.