Dynasty checklist is finally out!

[Tones]

Originally Posted by Jwax13

5.

Wait... someone passed on the Iniesta for a Darwin...

[Jwax13]

Yea… I would have taken Andres third overall. Was shocked Darwin went ahead.

Guess I have to keep for my Barca PC

[yiguiri2002]

Man, that Iniesta was a great pick. Maybe even the best outside of the Messi/Haaland from a value perspective relative to the pick.

This brings back the memories of Flawless, had the 6th pick in a case and got James lol. I don't even want to look back and see who I passed on.

[YayNJ]

people took a Rooney and a Darwin over Iniesta?!

lol

[LittleJimmies]

I'm very interested to see where these two Son 1/1's end, both ending within an hour of eachother in 3 days.

Dynasty (Currently at $3827): https://www.ebay.com/itm/135204216397

2021 Immaculate ($2025): https://www.ebay.com/itm/365071169846

Not an apples to apples comparison because of card vs. booklet, fairly lame patch for a 1/1 vs. swoosh, match-worn vs. not from any specific anything, and visibility of signature which I think means extra for Son's extravagant sig.

All things considered, I'd personally rather have the Immaculate.

[Gin&Juice]

Agree-- definitely prefer the Immaculate. Seems like the blue auto disappears against the background on alot of the Dynasty cards.

[YayNJ]

Both are pretty ugly, but I'd be going for the Immaculate.

The location of the auto and colour clash on the Dynasty is bad. Acetate autos are just bad in general.

[fadster]

If you were giving me one for free I'd rather have the Dynasty, I just can't stomach booklets even if aspects of it are nicer.

[Somuchjunkwax]

Curious to see who the Mystery Redemptions are. 13 different ones (A-M), A-D being just autos, E-L being the patch autos and M the dual relic. Imagine redemptions will start popping in the next couple weeks.

[BRob1]

Originally Posted by Somuchjunkwax

Curious to see who the Mystery Redemptions are. 13 different ones (A-M), A-D being just autos, E-L being the patch autos and M the dual relic. Imagine redemptions will start popping in the next couple weeks.

I thought they were all CR7


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[Somuchjunkwax]

Originally Posted by BRob1

I thought they were all CR7

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That would be amazing. I figured in true Topps fashion they would throw in some young players not on the original checklist.

[crdbored]

Originally Posted by Somuchjunkwax

Curious to see who the Mystery Redemptions are. 13 different ones (A-M), A-D being just autos, E-L being the patch autos and M the dual relic. Imagine redemptions will start popping in the next couple weeks.

If you do a little digging, you'll notice a lot of the dynasty signers have autos in the Marks of Excellence subset and Legendary Ink set from museum. I have a theory that the signers in these sets will be the Dynasty redemptions. It's also not a full list if Topps adds Marks of Excellence to Merlin and Stadium Club.

There's one name in those sets that would be an interesting redemption.

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

I'm very interested to see where these two Son 1/1's end, both ending within an hour of eachother in 3 days.

Dynasty (Currently at $3827): https://www.ebay.com/itm/135204216397

2021 Immaculate ($2025): https://www.ebay.com/itm/365071169846

Not an apples to apples comparison because of card vs. booklet, fairly lame patch for a 1/1 vs. swoosh, match-worn vs. not from any specific anything, and visibility of signature which I think means extra for Son's extravagant sig.

All things considered, I'd personally rather have the Immaculate.

These are ending tonight. Dynasty still in the lead $5177 to $3956. Dynasty has a lot more watchers and a lot more unique bidders, so I'm expecting that to pull away.

[Gin&Juice]

I just can’t understand paying over $5k for that Dynasty card, let alone whatever it will end up at. Other than the 1/1 stamp, there is nothing unique about it. People’s fascination with the artificial scarcity created by a machine stamp is mind-numbing. You can’t even see the auto. Also, looks like the Immaculate finished at $4,470 two weeks ago.

[Wolverine011]

Originally Posted by Gin&Juice

I just can’t understand paying over $5k for that Dynasty card, let alone whatever it will end up at. Other than the 1/1 stamp, there is nothing unique about it. People’s fascination with the artificial scarcity created by a machine stamp is mind-numbing. You can’t even see the auto. Also, looks like the Immaculate finished at $4,470 two weeks ago.

That Immaculate Son booklet 1/1 has been shill bid twice. Before the $4,470 "sale" it went for $4,850. Murozond (Chinese consignment shop) auctions always get shill bid.

[YayNJ]

I've seen the same Pele auto get 'sold' with Murozond at least 5-6 times.

By rights it should be mine, but I've been outbid every time, and then as if by magic, a few days later it's up for sale again.

[snomelcrob]

Originally Posted by Wolverine011

That Immaculate Son booklet 1/1 has been shill bid twice. Before the $4,470 "sale" it went for $4,850. Murozond (Chinese consignment shop) auctions always get shill bid.

But occasionally you can also hit really good deals with them. Much more likely than Probstein.

[kobewhite]

At this point I just filter to show only North American listed items because the shilling is so out of control. A few sellers based in China have destroyed the mid to high end listing space on eBay.

[YayNJ]

Shilling happens on North American, European and Asian listings.

If you know a value of an item, it's impossible to get 'ripped off' so as long as you know what you're doing, it seems like a case of cutting your nose off to spite your face.

[LittleJimmies]

This makes that Son 1/1 for $8k seem like a steal!



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[YayNJ]

what makes me laugh is that cards in this set from utter legends like Stoichkov are finishing at auction in the $300-400 range.

people are utterly clueless.

the hobby is driven by morons.

[crdbored]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

what makes me laugh is that cards in this set from utter legends like Stoichkov are finishing at auction in the $300-400 range.

people are utterly clueless.

the hobby is driven by morons.

Just give it a few months and those cards will go for less money or they'll sit on ebay with a higher BIN.

[gomiamigo]

All depends on what you think the outlook for Fati is, the outlook for Stoichkov will never change.

[fadster]

Patch quality is massive on these, club collectors go nuts for the right crest, logo, etc. That Fati sale is more about the Nike Swish than Fati himself.

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

All depends on what you think the outlook for Fati is, the outlook for Stoichkov will never change.

Nowhere near Stoitchkov.

He's a Ballon'd'or winner ffs.