2024 Topps Allen & Ginter thread aka Fanatics please take my money - Page 5

the mesiah · 09-30-2024, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bub838

https://www.topps.com/media/pdf/MLB2...hecklistV2.pdf

Thanks for posting the list

mnvikingstwins · 09-30-2024, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by spiffycards

If there are any Challenge fans here CT (Chris Tamburello) has an auto. I'm definitely getting one of those.

Derrick too. Old school Challenge, that's awesome.

Yeah didn't recognize him at first with them putting CT but did after googling who everyone was. He was cool on Traitors last season

rentz · 10-01-2024, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by onenineeightsix

Joe List, Bobby Kelly, and Dan Soder for the comedy fans out there!

first thing i went for was see what comedians they got this year, i'll be buying those singles especially Soder.

And Tim Robinson.
This years non sports autos is loaded for me, i'll pre-order some boxes before the stupid flux pricing hits.
save most of my money for singles

bub838 · 10-01-2024, 08:45 AM

odds
https://www.topps.com/media/pdf/odds...nterX)Odds.pdf

rentz · 10-01-2024, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bub838

odds
https://www.topps.com/media/pdf/odds...nterX)Odds.pdf

OUCH the auto odds are awful, even worse for non-sports auto

Bob Ross · 10-01-2024, 09:15 AM

Does anyone know when Ginter X is?

timber63401 · 10-01-2024, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rentz

OUCH the auto odds are awful, even worse for non-sports auto

Gonna be lots of boxes with $20 worth of cards in it.

rentz · 10-01-2024, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by timber63401

Gonna be lots of boxes with $20 worth of cards in it.

i'll buy one or two but best bet as usual will be singles.

I don't remember fat packs last year, the odds on those seem best for retail.

Bob Ross · 10-01-2024, 09:31 AM

Good gracious, napkin math time.

BASE CARDS CHROME VARIATION checklist: 100
BASE CARDS CHROME VARIATION Superfractor odds: 1:36,147
Total packs per box: 24

Total boxes: 150,612.5

Lets say 150k-ish.

fenwaykid · 10-01-2024, 09:41 AM

12,500 cases???

timber63401 · 10-01-2024, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Good gracious, napkin math time.

BASE CARDS CHROME VARIATION checklist: 100
BASE CARDS CHROME VARIATION Superfractor odds: 1:36,147
Total packs per box: 24

Total boxes: 150,612.5

Lets say 150k-ish.

Wow. do we know what last years print run was?

fenwaykid · 10-01-2024, 09:54 AM

So a case of this for $1500 gets you on average, 3 baseball autos and 1 non baseball auto. Love the product, but just a hard pass. Happy to grab singles off ebay though!

mfw13 · 10-01-2024, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fenwaykid

So a case of this for $1500 gets you on average, 3 baseball autos and 1 non baseball auto. Love the product, but just a hard pass. Happy to grab singles of eBay though!

Topps doesn't care....they're selling to breakers, not to us mere collectors....

I don't think there are any products still being released at prices that collectors think are sensible/reasonable.

Cracktoast · 10-01-2024, 10:03 AM

67 page checklist

fenwaykid · 10-01-2024, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

Topps doesn't care....they're selling to breakers, not to us mere collectors....

I don't think there are any products still being released at prices that collectors think are sensible/reasonable.

Breakers hate this product, not sure I agree.

Jboff73 · 10-01-2024, 10:10 AM

Very disappointing odds and checklist this year, it's definitely going to be harder to pull those mini-autos this year (1:99 packs) versus last year (1:81 packs) and non-baseball (2023: 1:105, 2024: 1:226). Retail blasters are even worse. So, I guess I'd just be buying for the base cards, which I do like. But for $125 for a hobby box? Those are going to sit on the site. I'll hope to get lucky and get a box of Ginter X if they keep the price down.

And I hardly recognize any of the non-baseball names. I guess I'm old, but this product may just not be for me anymore. It's sad because it was Ginter that brought me back into the hobby.

timber63401 · 10-01-2024, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fenwaykid

So a case of this for $1500 gets you on average, 3 baseball autos and 1 non baseball auto. Love the product, but just a hard pass. Happy to grab singles off ebay though!

Wow. I pulled 11 autos out of 2 cases last year and both were still 50 percent losers.

timber63401 · 10-01-2024, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jboff73

Very disappointing odds and checklist this year, it's definitely going to be harder to pull those mini-autos this year (1:99 packs) versus last year (1:81 packs) and non-baseball (2023: 1:105, 2024: 1:226). Retail blasters are even worse. So, I guess I'd just be buying for the base cards, which I do like. But for $125 for a hobby box? Those are going to sit on the site. I'll hope to get lucky and get a box of Ginter X if they keep the price down.

And I hardly recognize any of the non-baseball names. I guess I'm old, but this product may just not be for me anymore. It's sad because it was Ginter that brought me back into the hobby.

Non baseball autos being twice as hard to pull is crazy.

Jboff73 · 10-01-2024, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by timber63401

Non baseball autos being twice as hard to pull is crazy.

I feel like they are determined to kill this product. Maybe they will bring back Gypsy Queen after they learn from their mistakes. ....Yeah right.

Spike22 · 10-01-2024, 10:27 AM

I stick to Will Clark for my PC. With that, if any of you pull the Will Clark booklet, or the dual Will Clark/Buster Posey booklet, I'm your guy!!!

timber63401 · 10-01-2024, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jboff73

I feel like they are determined to kill this product. Maybe they will bring back Gypsy Queen after they learn from their mistakes. ....Yeah right.

Was such a great product and has the potential to be again but Fanatics gonna Fanatic I guess. Woke up this morning 90% sure that I was going to pre order a case for the the last thing I open this year. Not a huge flagship fan but now wondering if Id be better off with a case of Update instead.

bub838 · 10-01-2024, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Does anyone know when Ginter X is?

Nope, but I hope I can get some if they don't raise the price a crazy amount. If my math is right looks like 1000 less boxes than last year.

sandyfrank · 10-01-2024, 10:46 AM

I am coming up with around 10,060 cases of Hobby using the Wood Mini odds.

EDIT: I did not catch that they separated SP mini wood odds from base mini wood odds, now I get around 8,620 hobby cases.

The Accountant · 10-01-2024, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sandyfrank

I am coming up with around 10,060 cases of Hobby using the Wood Mini odds.

EDIT: I did not catch that they separated SP mini wood odds from base mini wood odds, now I get around 8,620 hobby cases.

doesn't sound nearly as bad as the 12500 predicted earlier but that's still a lot

scotchtape0 · 10-01-2024, 10:57 AM

I don't think the odds have changed nearly as much as others have stated.

2023 Odds:

Relic A - 1:30
Relic B - 1:23
Mini Framed Relic: 1:63

2024 Odds:

Relic A - 1:28
Relic B - 1:23
Mini Framed Relic: 1:134

Relic pulls should be pretty similar, with more full-sized and less mini framed.

I think the main difference is the addition of a new tier of auto this year--Mini Blue Auto--that wasn't in 2023.

10-01-2024, 09:54 AM	#112
fenwaykid Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NJ Posts: 5,315 fenwaykid	So a case of this for $1500 gets you on average, 3 baseball autos and 1 non baseball auto. Love the product, but just a hard pass. Happy to grab singles off ebay though! Last edited by fenwaykid; 10-01-2024 at 10:04 AM.

10-01-2024, 10:46 AM	#123
sandyfrank Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,003	I am coming up with around 10,060 cases of Hobby using the Wood Mini odds. EDIT: I did not catch that they separated SP mini wood odds from base mini wood odds, now I get around 8,620 hobby cases. Last edited by sandyfrank; 10-01-2024 at 10:52 AM.

10-01-2024, 10:57 AM	#125
scotchtape0 Member Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 455 alehsportscards	I don't think the odds have changed nearly as much as others have stated. 2023 Odds: Relic A - 1:30 Relic B - 1:23 Mini Framed Relic: 1:63 2024 Odds: Relic A - 1:28 Relic B - 1:23 Mini Framed Relic: 1:134 Relic pulls should be pretty similar, with more full-sized and less mini framed. I think the main difference is the addition of a new tier of auto this year--Mini Blue Auto--that wasn't in 2023. __________________ MY COLLECTION: https://www.instagram.com/alehsportscards/

10-01-2024, 08:45 AM	#104
bub838 Member Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 4,970	odds https://www.topps.com/media/pdf/odds...nterX)Odds.pdf

10-01-2024, 09:15 AM	#106
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,221	Does anyone know when Ginter X is?

10-01-2024, 09:31 AM	#109
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,221	Good gracious, napkin math time. BASE CARDS CHROME VARIATION checklist: 100 BASE CARDS CHROME VARIATION Superfractor odds: 1:36,147 Total packs per box: 24 Total boxes: 150,612.5 Lets say 150k-ish.

10-01-2024, 09:41 AM	#110
fenwaykid Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NJ Posts: 5,315 fenwaykid	12,500 cases???

10-01-2024, 10:03 AM	#114
Cracktoast Member Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 1,705	67 page checklist

10-01-2024, 10:10 AM	#116
Jboff73 Member Join Date: Sep 2023 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 181	Very disappointing odds and checklist this year, it's definitely going to be harder to pull those mini-autos this year (1:99 packs) versus last year (1:81 packs) and non-baseball (2023: 1:105, 2024: 1:226). Retail blasters are even worse. So, I guess I'd just be buying for the base cards, which I do like. But for $125 for a hobby box? Those are going to sit on the site. I'll hope to get lucky and get a box of Ginter X if they keep the price down. And I hardly recognize any of the non-baseball names. I guess I'm old, but this product may just not be for me anymore. It's sad because it was Ginter that brought me back into the hobby.

10-01-2024, 10:27 AM	#120
Spike22 Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 12	I stick to Will Clark for my PC. With that, if any of you pull the Will Clark booklet, or the dual Will Clark/Buster Posey booklet, I'm your guy!!!