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Old 12-09-2024, 08:34 PM   #851
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It's crazy how low his prices are. I just sold a PSA 9 Elite /399 rookie for $145.

His Rookies & Stars is crazy cheap. A PSA 9 base just sold for $55 and two raws sold for $30 and $45.

I have the PSA 9 Rookies and Stars /5 listed for $499 OBO - crickets.
I have two /49 (including 1/49) listed for $159 nothing
I have the /25 listed - nothing.
Didn't even bother listing the Gold /10.

I mean, if I can't sell a rookie /5, I'm not really trying with the rest I have. If that was a Mahomes it would be worth a fortune and would sell instantly. Guess I'll just hope he wins the Super Bowl at this point. Maybe that will change things.
LOL, it's your own damn fault buying into obscure sets like elite and rookie and stars and hoping it will sell quick. And here I thought youre expert on cards, or you're just one of those pretenders?
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:38 PM   #852
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LOL, it's your own damn fault buying into obscure sets like elite and rookie and stars and hoping it will sell quick. And here I thought youre expert on cards, or you're just one of those pretenders?
Since when is Elite and Rookies and Stars obscure? They're staples that have been around forever. Learn what obscure actually means before calling anyone a pretender
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:38 PM   #853
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It's crazy how low his prices are. I just sold a PSA 9 Elite /399 rookie for $145.

His Rookies & Stars is crazy cheap. A PSA 9 base just sold for $55 and two raws sold for $30 and $45.

I have the PSA 9 Rookies and Stars /5 listed for $499 OBO - crickets.
I have two /49 (including 1/49) listed for $159 nothing
I have the /25 listed - nothing.
Didn't even bother listing the Gold /10.

I mean, if I can't sell a rookie /5, I'm not really trying with the rest I have. If that was a Mahomes it would be worth a fortune and would sell instantly. Guess I'll just hope he wins the Super Bowl at this point. Maybe that will change things.
/5 2017 > /5 2018 putting the player aside

The jump in print run from 2017 to 2018 is significant, and 2018-2019...and 2020 onwards a disaster
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:42 PM   #854
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Since when is Elite and Rookies and Stars obscure? They're staples that have been around forever. Learn what obscure actually means before calling anyone a pretender
Never see anyone gets excited over that set, but you do you
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:43 PM   #855
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Since when is Elite and Rookies and Stars obscure? They're staples that have been around forever. Learn what obscure actually means before calling anyone a pretender
Never see anyone gets excited over that set, but you do you. And those he mentioned are just freakin base cards, not auto, not pen pals (from Elite). No real collectors looking for thst kind of things. Go over his prizm cards, pretty sure it will sell quick
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:43 PM   #856
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Never see anyone gets excited over that set, but you do you
Way to ignore my point like you always do. Those sets aren't "obscure" any knowledgable collector knows that. Again..learn what obscure means before trying to act like you know anything about cards
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:44 PM   #857
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Way to ignore my point like you always do. Those sets aren't "obscure" any knowledgable collector knows that. Again..learn what obscure means before trying to act like you know anything about cards
Obscure means irrelevant. I stand by my words, who collect base cards of rookie and stars?
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:47 PM   #858
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Never see anyone gets excited over that set, but you do you. And those he mentioned are just freakin base cards, not auto, not pen pals (from Elite). No real collectors looking for thst kind of things. Go over his prizm cards, pretty sure it will sell quick
What makes a "real collector"? You collect what you like don't you? Or that only applies to you?
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:48 PM   #859
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What makes a "real collector"? You collect what you like don't you? Or that only applies to you?
yes, nobody likes bases of Rookie and Stars, demand low, price low. It's not that hard to see. See for yourself how these cards look and tell me it looks good.
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:49 PM   #860
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Obscure means irrelevant. I stand by my words, who collect base cards of rookie and stars?
No it doesnt...obscure means unknown. You're wrong..as usual. Sorry not all collectors have your big budget and maybe have to collect lower end sets like Rookies and Stars to obtain rookies of their favorite players.
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:50 PM   #861
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elite is not an obscure set

rookies and stars I would say is undesirable but would not call it obscure

obscure is zenith
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:52 PM   #862
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No it doesnt...obscure means unknown. You're wrong..as usual. Sorry not all collectors have your big budget and maybe have to collect lower end sets like Rookies and Stars to obtain rookies of their favorite players.
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Pretty sure Irrelevant is a good comp, but I'm sure you're more eloquent than me
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:53 PM   #863
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not discovered or known about; uncertain.
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Pretty sure Irrelevant is a good comp, but I'm sure you're more eloquent than me
That i am..bc it's not. They don't mean the same thing. Sorry you suck at using adjectives to describe things
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:54 PM   #864
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elite is not an obscure set

rookies and stars I would say is undesirable but would not call it obscure

obscure is zenith
Elite is not obscure, but I never see anyone collecting it's base cards. The appeal is on the oncard auto of Pen Pals (which Allen's still selling well) and maybe turn of the century. Rookie and stars? It's a weak product nobody likes, just because the card is low numbered doesnt make it more desirable if the design is just plain bad. This is what people failed to understand. Not all 1/1 or /5 are the same
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:55 PM   #865
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That i am..bc it's not. They don't mean the same thing. Sorry you suck at using adjectives to describe things
Alright,I'll change from obscure to undesirable and ugly, happy?
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Old 12-09-2024, 08:56 PM   #866
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Alright,I'll change from obscure to undesirable and ugly, happy?
Yep; better

See it's ok to admit sometimes you can be wrong.
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Old 12-09-2024, 09:09 PM   #867
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/5 2017 > /5 2018 putting the player aside

The jump in print run from 2017 to 2018 is significant, and 2018-2019...and 2020 onwards a disaster
Oh I get it. But if a base that has tens of thousands of copies is going for $45, then /5, /10, /25, /49, etc. should be worth exponential amounts of that.

I can't see those two trolls posts but since one was quoted, I can't help it. I sold over 60 Mahomes base 2017 Rookies & Stars for between $800 and $1000 each but no one collects them? Delta please do research before spouting more idiotic nonsense.

Pretty sure I've posted pics in this thread of some of my Allen's. Thanks Delta but I don't need your advice. I've done ok with football cards but thanks for worrying. And I have tons of Allens in my collection but please continue thinking you know anything because I talked about five cards.
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Old 12-09-2024, 09:14 PM   #868
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Oh I get it. But if a base that has tens of thousands of copies is going for $45, then /5, /10, /25, /49, etc. should be worth exponential amounts of that.

I can't see those two trolls posts but since one was quoted, I can't help it. I sold over 60 Mahomes base 2017 Rookies & Stars for between $800 and $1000 each but no one collects them? Delta please do research before spouting more idiotic nonsense.

Pretty sure I've posted pics in this thread of some of my Allen's. Thanks Delta but I don't need your advice. I've done ok with football cards but thanks for worrying. And I have tons of Allens in my collection but please continue thinking you know anything because I talked about five cards.
Dude, it's not rocket science. 2017 there's not many sets so any card becomes more desirable. 2017 there's no DT, Kaboom. Mahomes only has Stained glass as case hit, obviously it will narrow the number of cards people can buy down by a lot. You're only expert on 2017 cards it seems, knows nothing of 2018 cards
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Old 12-09-2024, 09:37 PM   #869
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I sold all my expensive Allen’s RC’s after that 2022 AFC divisional game.
Did very well as you can image. Pick up this for my office.


Love the dude but I haven’t regretted it for a second.
But you guys are making think I could pick up some cool lower end stuff for cheap.
You guys think he’ll get a small bump once he wins the MVP? Or does it have to be a SB win.


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Old 12-09-2024, 09:43 PM   #870
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I sold all my expensive Allen’s RC’s after that 2022 AFC divisional game.
Did very well as you can image. Pick up this for my office.


Love the dude but I haven’t regretted it for a second.
But you guys are making think I could pick up some cool lower end stuff for cheap.
You guys think he’ll get a small bump once he wins the MVP? Or does it have to be a SB win.


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Nice. I sold most of mine a while back as well. Good thing too because they're about half the price now. Was just looking at Field Level Silvers that were around $1500 back then and now they're around $650. Of course most cards have come down quite a bit. Picked the perfect time to sell.

Personally I've been thinning out my collection across the board. Not as optimistic for future pricing as I once was. Love memorabilia though!
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Old 12-09-2024, 09:47 PM   #871
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Nice. I sold most of mine a while back as well. Good thing too because they're about half the price now. Was just looking at Field Level Silvers that were around $1500 back then and now they're around $650. Of course most cards have come down quite a bit. Picked the perfect time to sell.

Personally I've been thinning out my collection across the board. Not as optimistic for future pricing as I once was. Love memorabilia though!

I remember wanting that Field level silver it was pretty expensive. Can’t believe how much they came down.
I haven’t compared lately but how are Allen’s prices vs. Lamar Jackson?
I’d image Lamar sells a little higher since he won 2 MVP’s.


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Old 12-09-2024, 09:51 PM   #872
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I remember wanting that Field level silver it was pretty expensive. Can’t believe how much they came down.
I haven’t compared lately but how are Allen’s prices vs. Lamar Jackson?
I’d image Lamar sells a little higher since he won 2 MVP’s.


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Honestly haven't really followed Lamar's market but looking at the Field Level Silver, it's about the same price as Allen right now.
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Honestly haven't really followed Lamar's market but looking at the Field Level Silver, it's about the same price as Allen right now.

Make sense. The MVP is a joke these days. Basically a popularity contest.
Lamar winning last year proved it.
3600 yards with 24 TD and 7 Int isn’t anything to write home about.
But when you throw 5 TD on Christmas I guess that’s enough to swing the vote.


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Old 12-09-2024, 10:06 PM   #874
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Make sense. The MVP is a joke these days. Basically a popularity contest.
Lamar winning last year proved it.
3600 yards with 24 TD and 7 Int isn’t anything to write home about.
But when you throw 5 TD on Christmas I guess that’s enough to swing the vote.


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I remember picking up so many Allen rookies for pennies. I miss those days. When I got all the ones I wanted, I started buying his 2nd year. They were even cheaper. I still have the R&S run from /5 down from his rookie and 2nd year. Was just looking at the Playoff run 2nd year /10 down as well. Here are a few more no one cared about - don't think I paid more than $20 for any card. The first two are /10 and the rainbow are /99, /60, /35, /25, /10, 1/1.



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Old 12-09-2024, 10:12 PM   #875
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I remember picking up so many Allen rookies for pennies. I miss those days. When I got all the ones I wanted, I started buying his 2nd year. They were even cheaper. I still have the R&S run from /5 down from his rookie and 2nd year. Was just looking at the Playoff run 2nd year /10 down as well. Here are a few more no one cared about - don't think I paid more than $20 for any card. The first two are /10 and the rainbow are /99, /60, /35, /25, /10, 1/1.




Those are great. Especially considering how cheap you got them. I wouldn’t break up that rainbow ever.


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