Who will have the license for 2025 rookies?

[padremurph]

Is there a chance both Panini and Topps will be able to issue licensed 2025 product?

[ThatGuyPal]

Panini-exclusive guys will be in Panini but I think Topps will have the rest.

[padremurph]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

Panini-exclusive guys will be in Panini but I think Topps will have the rest.

Thanks. But no crossover? It will either be one or the other?

[CapMarvelous]

I think player exclusives only apply to signings.

Base cards of all NFL players should be in 2025 Topps regardless of any exclusives with Panini.

But I am not a lawyer.

[casebreaksllc]

Topps can print anyone in the NFLPA once they have the license. Usually in licensing deals, the company losing the license has 90 days to sell their inventory once the deal expires, but can't create more during this window. There may be some overlap in this 90 day window if this agreement has something similar, but other than that Panini can create the cards until their license expires which is sometime in October.

[padremurph]

Bumping this. Any news? Is my understanding correct that Panini will have until Oct to put out new product? So if they prioritize 2025 cards, there could be licensed cards from both companies in 2025?

[slyguy]

I'm not sure I care... thankfully the 2025 rookies are not very promising at all, so that solves that.

Jeanty is a legit prospect and might be good on Dallas or somewhere... but RB cards just don't ever do well.

If this were the 2024 class, it'd be a real shame to have the Fantatics/Panini mess foul it up... but 2025 is small potatoes imo.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by slyguy

I'm not sure I care... thankfully the 2025 rookies are not very promising at all, so that solves that.

Jeanty is a legit prospect and might be good on Dallas or somewhere... but RB cards just don't ever do well.

If this were the 2024 class, it'd be a real shame to have the Fantatics/Panini mess foul it up... but 2025 is small potatoes imo.

Ah yes, let's dismiss an entire rookie class with the wave of an ill-informed hand before any of them has played a down in the NFL!

What pearl of wisdom will you reveal next for us, good sir?

[Fenway55]

If my understanding is correct, Topps/Fanatics still won't be able to use NFL logos in 2025. I suppose they could release a product in 2026 and call it a 2025 product, using 2025 rookies with NFL logos, but I guess we'll see....

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

Ah yes, let's dismiss an entire rookie class with the wave of an ill-informed hand before any of them has played a down in the NFL!

What pearl of wisdom will you reveal next for us, good sir?

Not the whole class... but we all know QBs are the only thing that matters for football cards (excellent WRs to a very small extent).

It doesn't really matter if some good edge rushers or CBs or OTs come out in 2025 draft.

...2024 had a lot of good QBs and WRs and record-setting TE who are already starting pro, playing well. That's plain to see.
We won't see that from 2025. That's not ill-informed; any analysis or even a casual eye on NCAA FB will tell you that.

[Archangel1775]

I also don't believe the NFLPA and the NFL licenses align. So you many see something like Wil Card or Leaf from Panini at the end.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Not the whole class... but we all know QBs are the only thing that matters for football cards (excellent WRs to a very small extent).

It doesn't really matter if some good edge rushers or CBs or OTs come out in 2025 draft.

...2024 had a lot of good QBs and WRs and record-setting TE who are already starting pro, playing well. That's plain to see.
We won't see that from 2025. That's not ill-informed; any analysis or even a casual eye on NCAA FB will tell you that.

Your initial comment was much more of a blanket statement than this one. Even so, it's still too early to make such a sweeping judgment if you ask me.

[Ninotores]

Originally Posted by slyguy

I'm not sure I care... thankfully the 2025 rookies are not very promising at all, so that solves that.

Jeanty is a legit prospect and might be good on Dallas or somewhere... but RB cards just don't ever do well.

If this were the 2024 class, it'd be a real shame to have the Fantatics/Panini mess foul it up... but 2025 is small potatoes imo.

Do you ever have anything positive to post?

[Soxrule111]

I assume the answer is no, but

Can Panini Release 2024 Products after the deadline still? Like if they wanted to release a National Treasures 2024 on Nov 20th, 2025 could they?

Mainly ask because UD still releases 2/3 year old production Hockey lol, and didnt know if Panini could kinda use those same loopholes to issue 2024 products afterwards

[kipgen]

Originally Posted by CapMarvelous

I think player exclusives only apply to signings.

Base cards of all NFL players should be in 2025 Topps regardless of any exclusives with Panini.

But I am not a lawyer.

See I thought the same

But I collect a lot of Amen Thompson on the Rockets and he didn't appear in Topps Chrome 2023 Basketball at all (or any of the other 2023 Topps Basketball sets)

So now I'm not sure

[Fenway55]

Originally Posted by Soxrule111

I assume the answer is no, but

Can Panini Release 2024 Products after the deadline still? Like if they wanted to release a National Treasures 2024 on Nov 20th, 2025 could they?

Mainly ask because UD still releases 2/3 year old production Hockey lol, and didnt know if Panini could kinda use those same loopholes to issue 2024 products afterwards

It is impossible to answer for certain without knowing what the contract says (not to mention not knowing the outcome of the various lawsuits filed) but as others in here have mentioned, it would be typical to give a company a limited window (for example, 90 days) after the license expired to release/distribute merchandise already created.

As long as it gets released in time, they can call it whatever they want.

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

Your initial comment was much more of a blanket statement than this one. Even so, it's still too early to make such a sweeping judgment if you ask me.

Agreed. I think if you put Cam Ward in the right situation, he could easily be this year's Jayden Daniels.

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by Ninotores

Do you ever have anything positive to post?

What 2025 NFL draft prospects are you excited about (for cards/value) ?

(go ahead and google draft prospects and lmk )

A few guys come from every draft, but this is no 2024 for QBs and card values (most drafts aren't.. but 2025 is especially pathetic for QB/WRs).

[spend1kget50bac]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

Your initial comment was much more of a blanket statement than this one. Even so, it's still too early to make such a sweeping judgment if you ask me.

so to me there is a big difference between early football card buzz with the starting qbs(which as we all know is where most of the juice is) and eventual impact/status.

Everyone knows that 2 of the greatest 2(or 3 or 4...whatever) qbs in nfl history didn't have a ton of buzz going into their rookie year. And if those same players came out today, their cards woudn't be super anticipated going into their rookie years. One would have had less than zero buzz and likely had his base cards today immediately junked, and the other was picked in the 80s/3rd round.

So the point is nobody knows.....initially there won't be a lot of card buzz for anyone past cam or shadeur. But history shows up we don't always know who the all time greats will be, and so we don't know what the iconic cards might be either.

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by spend1kget50bac

so to me there is a big difference between early football card buzz with the starting qbs(which as we all know is where most of the juice is) and eventual impact/status.

Everyone knows that 2 of the greatest 2(or 3 or 4...whatever) qbs in nfl history didn't have a ton of buzz going into their rookie year. And if those same players came out today, their cards woudn't be super anticipated going into their rookie years. One would have had less than zero buzz and likely had his base cards today immediately junked, and the other was picked in the 80s/3rd round.

So the point is nobody knows.....initially there won't be a lot of card buzz for anyone past cam or shadeur. But history shows up we don't always know who the all time greats will be, and so we don't know what the iconic cards might be either.

Hear, hear. ^^

This is a very good post.
NFL is obviously very situational. It can take both time and circumstance, especially for QBs.

However, even guys like Ewers and Milroe went back to college for 2024 because they were almost undraftable among the 2024 prospects. Ditto for Ward and Sanders (would've been late picks 2024). I'm not saying they couldn't end up good... but we know what NFL scouts/teams thought of them. There are no Caleb total package or Rattler or Penix arms or Daniels/Maye athleticism or Nix level of experience in this year's class. That just doesn't scream "sleeper" for the guys drafted this April.

[fwiw, I think Milroe is the most pro-ready among 2025 and might be an ok backup or low end starter at NFL level - depending on team land spot, but that's not saying much]

[marinocollector]

It is my understanding that Panini can make NFL/NFLPA licensed cards for the 2025 season. What this will mean, is Panini will be able to submit and create sets until 12/31/25. Anything the league approves for production for the NFL season prior to that date, Panini will be able to create. Since Fanatics has control of all of the printing presses, the release date would be on Fanatics.