First Buzz: 2024 Topps Chrome MLS Mania cards

[crdbored]

Originally Posted by Sijavy

Another MLS 2 case break.

Messi spot - $466 (8 base, 2 inst, 1 refr.),
Suarez - $112 (1 x /10)
Alba $23 (2 x autos /25)

Two Dual Autos (both x25 I think),

Overall 5 x /10 cards, 1 x /5 (I have now seen 3 Jordan Morris cards /10 or under) across 2 cases.

My 6 spots cost $25, and I hit Carranza (auto & /50), McGlynn /10, 4-5 numbered. These black cards to /10 are probably the highlight for me.

So, my overall take on a case valued currently at $100 a box (it's down already in some places), so $1,2000

You are probably maxing out at $20 average value from a box, so $240 from a case. And Messi is nowhere to be seen.

Aside from the rare chase for legend autos, there are going to be a lot of disappointed collectors. Again.

This has been my observation as well. Very little value per box.
Even some cases are better than others. Not super consistent.

Seems like all the Messi stuff was put into Mania boxes. I would skip the Messi spot in Hobby and full send in Mania if I was going to spend $400.
Yikes!

[whiplash101]

I've ripped a few cases and I'd have to say that if you're only able to sell all those numbered and auto cards for $240 you are doing something wrong

[Sijavy]

Watched some bloke breaking a case of MLS Mania.

He mentions $1905 for the case, so roughly $380 per box.

So online stores were asking close to $600 per box (now down to $500), $3,000 per case.

So marking the product up 57%, which is insane given the market.

For MLS Chrome boxes, at the card fair we went to Saturday in PA, I saw a high of $140, and a low of $90.

Again, this should be $40 before you can blink.

[whiplash101]

But they are selling out quick! So it's within market demand currently. Extremely limited product compared to regular chrome which will be around for years. I watched a lot of cases fill very quickly at $500+ / box.

[YayNJ]

There's a lot of idiots around.

[ThatGuyPal]

Saw MLS chrome blasters but with all this Mania stuff I was confused and left them as I didn't know what they'd have in them.

[panenkacards]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

Saw MLS chrome blasters but with all this Mania stuff I was confused and left them as I didn't know what they'd have in them.

Probably a good idea (and I say that as someone who main PC is an MLS team) but this will help: https://www.topps.com/media/pdf/odds...omeOdds_v2.pdf

Blasters are the column all the way to the right marked "value box"

[Sijavy]

Remember, this is $1,900 roughly at cost, $3,000 roughly at retail.

5 boxes (1 case).

These were the 20 autos I saw

Stoichkov /5
Gerard /50
Suarez /50
Villa /25 /99
Alba /99 /50 /25
Busquets /25 /50
Dempsey /50
Morales /99 /25
Acosta /99
Luiz /25
Puig /99 /50
Velasco /99 /99 /99

MLS PSA 10 of Stoichkov went for $135 on Ebay.
Gerard $90
Suarez $90
Dempsey $15
Villa $30 (for both)
Alba $75 for all 3
Busquets $50 for both

Rest for maybe $5-$10 each? Let's say $7.50. $67.50

So, for your $3,000 you get
$452 in autos
Some random Messi cards (one numbered to /25) Let's say $100
Random MLS numbered, Let's say $200

Enjoy!

[whiplash101]

If you're selling any of those for $5-$10 I'll take them all ��

[ThatGuyPal]

Originally Posted by panenkacards

Probably a good idea (and I say that as someone who main PC is an MLS team) but this will help: https://www.topps.com/media/pdf/odds...omeOdds_v2.pdf

Blasters are the column all the way to the right marked "value box"

Good info, so basically impossible for anything good in blasters, don't think I'll be grabbing any.

[ThatGuyPal]

Blasters were still sitting there today, feel even better since anything remotely relevant or good or valuable is scooped up, so not one blaster gone shows these gotta be roug

[crdbored]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

Blasters were still sitting there today, feel even better since anything remotely relevant or good or valuable is scooped up, so not one blaster gone shows these gotta be roug

I wouldn't say blasters are bad.
If you are looking for parallel autos then YES but there's plenty of low numbered stuff and case hits.

Topps 10x the parallels so blasters have their own wave exclusives.
It's actually cheaper to hit a red in blasters than hobby. It's Red Wave only though.

Packs per Hobby – 20, $119.99
True Red: 1:661
Every 33 boxes, approx. $3,965.66 to hit
Packs per Blaster – 6. $29.99
Red Wave: 1:462
Every 77 boxes, $2,309.23 to hit

It's not a bad option, if you truly collect MLS and are chasing parallels.
29.99 is absurd though and waiting for prices to fall could be the play.

[YayNJ]

I mean, you're making excuses for their cash grabbing.

''I wouldn't say having to spend $3,965/$2,309 for a red is bad''

Come on man.

[crdbored]

LOL I hear you man.
I was more so trying to compare the ratio at which they fall in hobby vs blasters.

[ThatGuyPal]

Originally Posted by crdbored

I wouldn't say blasters are bad.
If you are looking for parallel autos then YES but there's plenty of low numbered stuff and case hits.

Topps 10x the parallels so blasters have their own wave exclusives.
It's actually cheaper to hit a red in blasters than hobby. It's Red Wave only though.

Packs per Hobby – 20, $119.99
True Red: 1:661
Every 33 boxes, approx. $3,965.66 to hit
Packs per Blaster – 6. $29.99
Red Wave: 1:462
Every 77 boxes, $2,309.23 to hit

It's not a bad option, if you truly collect MLS and are chasing parallels.
29.99 is absurd though and waiting for prices to fall could be the play.

I'm not a big hobby-buyer though so when people always bring up blasters aren't bad "compared" to hobby it's sort of irrelevant for me as it wasn't an option of hobby or bunch of blasters. I'm more a 1-2 blaster person and odds seemed terrible that were posted unless maybe you are opening by the case.

Also as I said I'm going off the fact they were also left on the shelf which has nothing to do with me lol Panini Premier League Mega Boxes actually all got snatched up, UEFA stuff usually goes, I'm not exaggerating it's usually only the worst of the worst that isn't bought or stolen lol was right beside the other undesirable Topps Chrome Tennis lol I'll prob pass as I usually rip a Topps Holiay for Christmas and WWE Select retail is looking good but if still there next week I may try a box and I'll post results. The one rip I saw on Youtube wasn't bad two numbered cards but high numbered lol

[Bob Ross]

Does that say $169.99 for MLS Sapphire?

[LM14500]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Does that say $169.99 for MLS Sapphire?

Seems cheap

[whiplash101]

Seems like you're gonna lose a lot of money unless u hit a Messi auto.

[LM14500]

Originally Posted by whiplash101

Seems like you're gonna lose a lot of money unless u hit a Messi auto.

Wouldn’t be ripping anyway lol, I think they’ll be an easy flip for atleast around $300-$350 to anyone who does want a chance at a Messi Sapphire auto.

[YayNJ]

Someone please set fire to the 'hobby' already.