Is the NFL rigged?

[88horsepower]

Originally Posted by bmf

Wherever there is big money, there will be corruption.

This is where I find it laughable that anyone would say there is zero chance of rigging in the NFL. If there's big money to be made, you can bet corruption is right around the corner.

[boxbuster7]

would anybody like to explain to me how a 32-29 playoff game can be rigged?

[mc1]

Originally Posted by dbpsooner

People only want to acknowledge bad calls when they favor the winning team. They don't want to acknowledge the bad calls against the winning team. Those calls don't fit their narrative.

Confirmation Bias

[BGT Masters]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

would anybody like to explain to me how a 32-29 playoff game can be rigged?

Pretty simple. Keep the game close with penalties and the spotting of the ball. Come 4th quarter a call here or a call there easily decides games. Football is very easy to "rig" since you can literally call a penalty every single play on both sides of the ball. That allows you to give or take away yardage and give redo's as well.

Basketball and Football are both very easy to rig wins and spreads. Kings/Lakers playoffs many years back. One of the worst rigged games I've ever personally watched.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

I just watched the video, the only time it looked like Mahomes might have made contact with Anderson is when Mahomes' helmet came down when his head came down. This is after initial hit from Anderson. More of the whiplash from the hit than anything else. Anderson's hit did not strike helmet to helmet. Should have been a firm no call. I believe replay would have reversed if it was an option. Doesn't really matter anymore though.

If we're talking about the RTP call, Anderson hit Mahomes high and his helmet hit Mahomes' helmet. Not forcible by any means, but the ref who threw the flag saw the high hit (and maybe the helmet hitting helmet) and if they reviewed it, they couldn't reverse the call because helmet to helmet contact was made, albeit not forcible, as described by the rules analyst on the broadcast.

So was the error that the initial ref saw the high hit and possibly the helmet to helmet contact? That was justifiably a penalty from his perspective and it's not until replay that you could see the forcible contact came from lower, not the helmet.

Maybe the error is just that they can't overturn a RTP when helmet to helmet contact is made, regardless of the force behind the contact. But then we get into really weird subjectivity which takes time and is always questionable.

It's crappy but if defenders are lunging at a QB, they need to go for midsection. If they are trying to block a pass, jump straight up. When they go in between and hit high the flag is likely to follow. On this particular play, there was no reason for Anderson to go so high, he could've gone at the midsection.

I understand why the call was made on the field and why it wasn't reversed. To the point of this thread, no shady business needed for this to happen as it did on the field. The ref saw a big high hit and the helmets made contact.

[majestik101]

Even if the NFL was rigged, ain't a damn thing you can do about it. Just like nothing is going to happen to BYB. Just sit there and take it.

[88horsepower]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Even if the NFL was rigged, ain't a damn thing you can do about it. Just like nothing is going to happen to BYB. Just sit there and take it.

Or just stop watching.

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by TSonn

If we're talking about the RTP call, Anderson hit Mahomes high and his helmet hit Mahomes' helmet. Not forcible by any means, but the ref who threw the flag saw the high hit (and maybe the helmet hitting helmet) and if they reviewed it, they couldn't reverse the call because helmet to helmet contact was made, albeit not forcible, as described by the rules analyst on the broadcast.

So was the error that the initial ref saw the high hit and possibly the helmet to helmet contact? That was justifiably a penalty from his perspective and it's not until replay that you could see the forcible contact came from lower, not the helmet.

Maybe the error is just that they can't overturn a RTP when helmet to helmet contact is made, regardless of the force behind the contact. But then we get into really weird subjectivity which takes time and is always questionable.

It's crappy but if defenders are lunging at a QB, they need to go for midsection. If they are trying to block a pass, jump straight up. When they go in between and hit high the flag is likely to follow. On this particular play, there was no reason for Anderson to go so high, he could've gone at the midsection.

I understand why the call was made on the field and why it wasn't reversed. To the point of this thread, no shady business needed for this to happen as it did on the field. The ref saw a big high hit and the helmets made contact.

In my view, what little helmet to helmet contact was initiated by Mahomes from bring his head down while absorbing the hit. Anderson's full hit went into the shoulder. I do agree with you, Anderson left himself open to the call by going high. Defensive players should be fully aware that Mahomes (and select few others) will get the call for anything near the head area. I would still disagree that if a reply was going to be ruled by letter and spirit of the rule, it would be overturned.

With that being said, I agree, it has f all do with why the Texans lost or that the NFL is "rigged".

[JWBlue]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Even if the NFL was rigged, ain't a damn thing you can do about it. Just like nothing is going to happen to BYB. Just sit there and take it.

Yup. Accept it for what it is. The WWE. Enjoy the athleticism.

Bet on the Chiefs ML.

[mc1]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

Yup. Accept it for what it is. The WWE. Enjoy the athleticism.

Bet on the Chiefs ML.

What happens when Philly wins? I bet there will be a bunch of excuses.

Like when LA played Philly. A couple clowns were saying the league wanted the Rams to win because of the wildfires. Crickets after the game.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by BGT Masters

Pretty simple. Keep the game close with penalties and the spotting of the ball. Come 4th quarter a call here or a call there easily decides games. Football is very easy to "rig" since you can literally call a penalty every single play on both sides of the ball. That allows you to give or take away yardage and give redo's as well.

Basketball and Football are both very easy to rig wins and spreads. Kings/Lakers playoffs many years back. One of the worst rigged games I've ever personally watched.

You really think josh allen who hit his head on the grass cause he's diving for the first down multiple times was in on the jinx?

I mean come on...

[BGT Masters]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

You really think josh allen who hit his head on the grass cause he's diving for the first down multiple times was in on the jinx?

I mean come on...

What are you babbling about, jinx? You asked how it could be rigged, I stated how easy it would be to do. Player's don't need to be in on it. Just one or two refs, that's it. Rules are open to interpretation and can and are enforced when they feel like it. There seems to be no real consistency, which is perfect if you wanted to swing spreads and outcomes.

I don't think the entire NFL is one giant rigged system that everyone is in on. However, I have believed for awhile now certain teams are given preferential treatment with spots and how penalties are enforced in key moments of certain games.

It already happened in the NBA. Hell the NBA draft was even rigged (looking at you 1985), likely still is.

[dbpsooner]

Imagine how mentally broke a fan base has to be to think their team lost because of preferential treatment. It couldn't be that they just were not good enough. Unfortunately this type of mentality is becoming more and more prevalent in society. Blame it on anyone but themselves. My 9-year old likes to place blame elsewhere when he has a bad game. I am doing my best to break him of that habit because it is a really bad look. Thankfully I have time because that type of mindset will make it hard to succeed.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by dbpsooner

Imagine how mentally broke a fan base has to be to think their team lost because of preferential treatment. It couldn't be that they just were not good enough. Unfortunately this type of mentality is becoming more and more prevalent in society. Blame it on anyone but themselves. My 9-year old likes to place blame elsewhere when he has a bad game. I am doing my best to break him of that habit because it is a really bad look. Thankfully I have time because that type of mindset will make it hard to succeed.

Anyone betting billions on his games?

[hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by BGT Masters

What are you babbling about, jinx? You asked how it could be rigged, I stated how easy it would be to do. Player's don't need to be in on it. Just one or two refs, that's it. Rules are open to interpretation and can and are enforced when they feel like it. There seems to be no real consistency, which is perfect if you wanted to swing spreads and outcomes.



I don't think the entire NFL is one giant rigged system that everyone is in on. However, I have believed for awhile now certain teams are given preferential treatment with spots and how penalties are enforced in key moments of certain games.



It already happened in the NBA. Hell the NBA draft was even rigged (looking at you 1985), likely still is.

AND the Knicks IMMEDIATELY had a Ewing jersey to show!!!!! *mind blown*

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[boxbuster7]

is Delta5 still a member of this forum?

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

is Delta5 still a member of this forum?

He lost a bet to sleeepers on chiefs/bills game. 1 year self imposed suspension

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

He lost a bet to sleeepers on chiefs/bills game. 1 year self imposed suspension

nice!

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

In my view, what little helmet to helmet contact was initiated by Mahomes from bring his head down while absorbing the hit. Anderson's full hit went into the shoulder. I do agree with you, Anderson left himself open to the call by going high. Defensive players should be fully aware that Mahomes (and select few others) will get the call for anything near the head area. I would still disagree that if a reply was going to be ruled by letter and spirit of the rule, it would be overturned.

With that being said, I agree, it has f all do with why the Texans lost or that the NFL is "rigged".

I see your point in that the helmet contact may have been more of a reaction or ricochet, but I don't think you can say it was "initiated" by Mahomes since it's a direct reaction to being hit high by Anderson Jr.

I think the point of all of this is refs can make calls that appear correct at the time and then the teams/players can be negatively impacted due to limitations of the replay rules. Also, fans and the league don't want an hour of replay each game (see: PI replay) so what is there to do?

I do think it's worth noting that on both the RTP and UG calls on Houston vs KC, Mahomes did not cry to the refs like we've seen many QBs do (Mahomes included) for much less (cough, Allen, cough).

[bmf]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFg99...RyMGFvanV4dW9r

This is getting out of hand lol

[bub838]

Arian Foster said it’s all scripted!

[Fenway55]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

would anybody like to explain to me how a 32-29 playoff game can be rigged?

The close games are the ones where one or two calls can easily sway the outcome.

I am not saying the League is rigged, but there is a clear officiating bias in favor of KC in the playoffs. USA Today had an article analyzing the close calls from CCG weekend. Philly-Washington had bad/controversial calls in each direction. But it is hilarious how each of the 3 “controversial” calls from the KC game benefitted KC…..

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by bmf

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFg99...RyMGFvanV4dW9r

This is getting out of hand lol

Can we see his video from last years Super Bowl to check for accuracy?

[Seahawks fan]

Originally Posted by bub838

Arian Foster said it’s all scripted!

Hard to argue with Arian Foster. He's had some huge truth bombs on his Twitter that I agree with... "Caillou can't grow hair, not because he has cancer or progeria, but because he sucks, and even his own body recognizes that he does not deserve hair or food or love." - Arian Foster

[JWBlue]

Originally Posted by Seahawks fan

Hard to argue with Arian Foster. He's had some huge truth bombs on his Twitter that I agree with... "Caillou can't grow hair, not because he has cancer or progeria, but because he sucks, and even his own body recognizes that he does not deserve hair or food or love." - Arian Foster

Wonder if there has ever been a Caillou reference on BO.