2025 Topps Series 1 Too Early To Talk About It??

[RoyalsCollector]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Not good business at all. Now the difference they did apply to a gift card for future use. I'm angrier about the fact they haven't even shipped any Series 1 skus they sold yet.

Oh well that's at least something I suppose. Still...

[crownand]

Tried ordering more jumbos on Topps website but order gets canceled after it was placed and confirmed. Any way around that?

[Funkster]

Originally Posted by Jboff73

There has to be something to the theory that early "waves" of retail have better hit rates. I bought ONE fat pack at Walmart and got an auto (Steward Berroa, meh) and TWO hangers and got a golden mirror (Colin Rea, double meh), but still, my luck is generally not that good.

Oh I am convinced it's everything not just retail. It's not a science, but I always seem to get better hits out of my presale orders from Topps than i do a month later on the secondary market.

[Hollywood42]

Got confirmation of another of the outstanding parallels - this is the "Silver Cracked Foilboard / Silver Crackle / Silver Crackle Foilboard" exclusive to super boxes

Of course, this is just an Ice parallel from years past with a different name to keep things complicated

This is the only picture I have for now, will update the parallel guide a few pages back once there is a higher quality image I can borrow

[rfgilles]

These number parallels are going for crazy prices


https://www.ebay.com/itm/39621425185...Bk9SR-j1qKaiZQ

https://www.ebay.com/itm/27687139385...Bk9SR6b7_qWiZQ

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by rfgilles

These number parallels are going for crazy prices
https://www.ebay.com/itm/27687139385...Bk9SR6b7_qWiZQ

I sold my Judge for $360. I hope that wasn't too low. I thought it was fair given his is to /99 though. They are still ugly to me.

[PuddleMonkey]

Those are so ugly but I get people like how limited they are. At least for flagship that's very limited.

[rogueriver]

The print runs on this must be massive I went through 18 blaster boxes and 6 hangers and 6 fat packs and only got 2 numbered parallel cards. One /2025 gold and one to /5 that is crazy low for the amount of packs I went through, no autos and I relic. No real hits other than the /5. I know it was retail but dang the lack of anything numbered tells me this stuff is still being printed like crazy. 1989 all over again

[Mandy1320]

Got a JRam on card auto and wood relics from Trout and Seiya Suzuki in my Jumbo. I'll take it!

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by rogueriver

The print runs on this must be massive I went through 18 blaster boxes and 6 hangers and 6 fat packs and only got 2 numbered parallel cards. One /2025 gold and one to /5 that is crazy low for the amount of packs I went through, no autos and I relic. No real hits other than the /5. I know it was retail but dang the lack of anything numbered tells me this stuff is still being printed like crazy. 1989 all over again

Thats a lot of money to spend on retail. Why didn't you just buy some hobby or jumbo if you were spending that much?

[rogueriver]

I was bored and Walmart was open.

[Rbradleigh]

Originally Posted by premium1981

Thats a lot of money to spend on retail. Why didn't you just buy some hobby or jumbo if you were spending that much?

Dang, yeah, a lil quick math and that’s ~ 3 Jumbos

[yodastories]

Originally Posted by premium1981

Thats a lot of money to spend on retail. Why didn't you just buy some hobby or jumbo if you were spending that much?

Eh, let people spend how they want. It's not like hobby or jumbo isn't an absolute waste of money either.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by yodastories

Eh, let people spend how they want. It's not like hobby or jumbo isn't an absolute waste of money either.

I don't care how people spend their money. I just don't understand why someone would choose hundreds of dollars on retail (bypassing hobby/jumbo) and then complain on a message board about lack of hits. We are talking about the same product being purchased, just choosing a different format if hits are what he is looking for. He is welcome to spend $10k on retail if that floats his boat. But to spend a bunch on retail and then complain about not hitting anything doesn't make sense. Thats the usual outcome.

[KhalDrogo]

Wasn’t too long ago when hangers offered the best Flagship value. Retail has become so bad that you get questioned for buying it now? Yikes.

[notoriousrmb]

Hobby isn't great either - had a box with a relic and no numbered parallels. Just foilboard and aqua.

[wilsonsingles]

Originally Posted by notoriousrmb

Hobby isn't great either - had a box with a relic and no numbered parallels. Just foilboard and aqua.

Hobby and Jumbo's are proving to be just as brutal.
I had one nice case of Jumbo and three absolutely horrendous cases of Jumbo.

It's so watered down in every format.

prices on secondary are proving my price drop prediction correct.

sells far out number buys and prices are dropping.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by wilsonsingles

Hobby and Jumbo's are proving to be just as brutal.
I had one nice case of Jumbo and three absolutely horrendous cases of Jumbo.

It's so watered down in every format.

prices on secondary are proving my price drop prediction correct.

sells far out number buys and prices are dropping.

are prices dropping for the public?

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

are prices dropping for the public?

Nope!

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by wilsonsingles

Hobby and Jumbo's are proving to be just as brutal.

I had one nice case of Jumbo and three absolutely horrendous cases of Jumbo.



It's so watered down in every format.



prices on secondary are proving my price drop prediction correct.



sells far out number buys and prices are dropping.

[citation needed]

[wilsonsingles]

Jumbo case #5 - another stinking turd

autos:
1990 - Starwberry, Noel
Stars - Del Castillo /150, Norby, Cook, Locklear

parallels:
team color - #102 India
gold /50 - #81 Twins Team Card
vintage /99 - #73 Castillo
green /99 - #139 Beck, ATT-11 Witt
Blue /150 - #38 Hoerner, #286 Diaz
Purple /250 - #213 McCray RC, #344 Benintendi
Pink - T90-98 McCutchen, CTH-22 Mays

gold /2025: 147 161 175 270 337

silver pack /50: Norby RC

that's it

[wilsonsingles]

oops forgot the relics;

city connect: Verlander
rickwood /150: Soler
1990: Perez /50, Arenado, Chisholm, Machado, Turner
MLM: Yelich, Castellanos, Martinez, Suzuki, Yamamoto

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by wilsonsingles

Jumbo case #5 - another stinking turd

autos:
1990 - Starwberry, Noel
Stars - Del Castillo /150, Norby, Cook, Locklear

parallels:
team color - #102 India
gold /50 - #81 Twins Team Card
vintage /99 - #73 Castillo
green /99 - #139 Beck, ATT-11 Witt
Blue /150 - #38 Hoerner, #286 Diaz
Purple /250 - #213 McCray RC, #344 Benintendi
Pink - T90-98 McCutchen, CTH-22 Mays

gold /2025: 147 161 175 270 337

silver pack /50: Norby RC

that's it

I think Hobby provides a lot better value than Jumbo personally. At least the hits the come out of Hobby cases seem a lot higher end to me than what normally comes out of Jumbo.

[wilsonsingles]

can everyone see at least, that a large portion of the jumbo cases are terrible?

The ratio of bad to good cases is so much higher this year and it is not even close.

[Hockey24xx]

Originally Posted by wilsonsingles

can everyone see at least, that a large portion of the jumbo cases are terrible?

The ratio of bad to good cases is so much higher this year and it is not even close.

I opened 4 Jumbo cases and all were bad. I opened 8 hobby cases and 3 of them were excellent while 5 were terrible. I wish topps would do a better job of leveling out the mix of 'big' hits with the bad.