Jalen Hurts charging $400 an auto

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by Jaysabz

...Hurts has been to two Super Bowls..

...Most rushing yards by a quarterback in Super Bowl history...

Great.

How does that change the fact he's not top 10 in card values, jerseys sold, anything in terms of overall merch sales?

Hurts is simply not a popular player.
He is not even the most popular Eagles player.
Usually the auto prices are dictated by popularity. Card prices obviously are.
I'd think that's common sense, but perhaps not.

We all appreciate your Iggle homer opinion and hope you enjoy the moment in the sun. I do... through and through. I bet on them (and KC, and Buf) at start of playoffs.
But all of that does not change merchandise sales ranks, which you clearly clip out when "quoting." The stats are the stats.

I am not going to start claiming Justin Jefferson is amazing and should be a top value auto player because I'm a Viking fan (although JJ's merch, like many, also outsells Jalen Hurts).
Values on cards, merch, etc are dictated by the market for the player. It's pretty black and white on that one, sir.

[LondonGames]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

Well I know how badly he gets paid ….
Probably no endorsement deals rather
Poor guy has to scrape by somehow
In the spirit of the other bo poster I will keep
It simple…
Regardless who is getting the fee his name is associated with it
And it’s a bad look imo
But to each their own

idiotic posts like this. 1180 posts in under 3 months on the site..

hard to spot the PBMs from this far away.

[PuddleMonkey]

Randall Cunningham was more fun.

[majestik101]

Spotting PBMs within the first 1,180 posts:

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by LondonGames

idiotic posts like this. 1180 posts in under 3 months on the site..

hard to spot the PBMs from this far away.

It is called sarcasm or an attempt at it
No need to attack me personally sir
Why are you being so mean ?
No clue what a pbm is …..
I have to ask why pick on me ?
I don’t recall bieng nasty or mean to you sir .
So again I ask …..
Why ? Does it make you feel good to be cruel ?

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Spotting PBMs within the first 1,180 posts:

No clue what a pbm is sir
I guess you and the London guy are related somehow ?

[Jaysabz]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Hurts is no Mahomes or Allen or Burrow - or even Dak - or when it comes to merch sold.

I was responding to the first part of your argument, that Hurts is "no Mahomes or Allen or Burrow - or even Dak..."

The second part of that sentence had an OR -

You said " - or even when it comes to merch sold."

You're right, I didn't address merch sold, because in what world does merch sold mean anything? They hand out Lombardi Trophies for merch sales?

And by the way, you're not even correct on merch numbers: This article from Bleacher Report dated February 4, 2025 has the list of top sellers for the 2024-25 season as follows:

1. Christian McCaffrey, San Francisco 49ers
2. Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs
3. Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles
4. Micah Parsons, Dallas Cowboys
5. Tyreek Hill, Miami Dolphins
6. C.J. Stroud, Houston Texans
7. Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens
8. Justin Jefferson, Minnesota Vikings
9. T.J. Watt, Pittsburgh Steelers
10. Brock Purdy, San Francisco 49ers

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...2024-25-season

The list you linked were the top selling jerseys from April 1, 2024 - October 31, 2024. So your list was from about three weeks before the 2024 draft through Week 8 of the 2024 season. Aiden Hutchinson was the 4th best seller on your list, and his injury was traumatic and tragic (breaking his tibia and fibula in his left leg in on October 13, 2024) but also highlights how your list only went through Week 8 of this past season, as his jersey sales dropped off after the injury.

And BTW I don't see Allen, Burrow or Dak outselling Hurts on that list - so now you're reduced to the argument that Hurts' card prices are lower... can't argue with that. He doesn't get hobby love.

Justin Herbert outsells Hurts all day every day. Herbert is also 0-2 in the playoffs, with 2TD and 4INT in those two appearances. But with people do with their money is their business, I'm here posting facts.

Call it what you want, Jalen Hurts is a winner, and he proved it on the biggest stage possible this year, redeeming himself after his 4TD performance in Super Bowl LVII fell short vs. KC by being a major contributor to the blowout of KC in Super Bowl LIX.

[Fenway55]

Hurts succeeded where Allen, Jackson, Prescott, Burrow, Purdy and Herbert have all (thus far) failed. He is about 7 months from being the only (starting) QB in his 20's to have won a Super Bowl.

He is a winner, and he proved it. I don't give 2 craps about the Eagles but you have to tip you cap and recognize greatness when you see it.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by Moss84istheGOAT

I see Hurts is signing at a show next weekend and looks to be 400 an auto and an extra 150 for an inscription. I mean no disrespect, just curious if philly fans think this ridiculous or normal. I personally think its absurd.

$400 only gets you his auto on something small. You want him to sign your helmet or football? That would be $450.

And the inscription is actually $200, not $150. And he will only add SB LIX MVP. Nothing else or anything different.

https://phillyshow.com/autograph-guest/hurts-jalen/

Not sure why anyone would think this is absurd. Dude makes $50MIL a year playing football. For him to get out of bed and do a signing, it takes a lot ($) of incentive. Same with any big current players.

Like someone already said, Hurts is sold out, even at those "absurd" prices. Sounds to me, like Fanatics actually left money on the table. They could have sold them for more.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Fenway55

Hurts succeeded where Allen, Jackson, Prescott, Burrow, Purdy and Herbert have all (thus far) failed. He is about 7 months from being the only (starting) QB in his 20's to have won a Super Bowl.

He is a winner, and he proved it. I don't give 2 craps about the Eagles but you have to tip you cap and recognize greatness when you see it.

I know… and he isn’t great

The Eagles are a great team though. Especially that front 7

He’s good though. I will tip my cap to that

[jasonm2121]

Originally Posted by slyguy

I think it is a lot when Jalen Hurts RCs and signed cards (and other signed stuff... helmets, jerseys, etc) aren't popular or selling much in terms of price or volume of sales.

Hurts is no Mahomes or Allen or Burrow - or even Dak - or when it comes to merch sold. He's not even close, never was. Saquon outsells Hurts handily - both now, even when he was NYG.

I mean, let's get real... Fanatics has DRASTICALLY upped the price of Mohomes' signed stuff (jerseys, helmets, cards, etc)... roughly 3-4x what Hurts ones are. But it's still great value on Pat (and/or bad on Hurts?). In 10 or 20 years, are the Hurts ones worth anything at all? Doubtful. He'll be looked at like McNabb was compared to Brady or Manning.

I do not think anyone is saying he is Mahomes, but I am pretty sure Mahomes costs a lot more. I just do not see $400 being an outrageous figure to pay in 2025 for an autograph. This price could seem cheap in a few years if he continues to perform.

[49erRCCollector]

He did just win a SB, yeah. Hurts/People cashing in.

[Grid]

Pricing for modern QB that either just happened, or will happen soon. None of these prices include meeting them, like with Hurts. It is what it is.

Josh Allen send in for March:
24 NFL MVP QB1 Josh Allen Private Signing!
$430 flats up to 16x20/minis
$450 premium(helmets, jerseys, cards, etc.)
$250 inscription(24 NFL MVP only)
Inscriptions are limited, first come first serve!

The next Herbert send in:


Baker Mayfield Private Signing:
$179 flats up to 16x20/minis
$189 premium
$199 Custom Helmets
$85 inscription (1 per item)
**Cards are Premium - $189 per**

Bo Nix private signing:
$160 flats up to 16x20/minis
$180 premium(anything other than photos up to 16x20 and mini’s)
$70 inscription(1 inscription per item, 3 word limit)

QB Michael Penix Jr. private signing:
$130 flats up to 16x20/minis
$150 premium(anything other than photos up to 16x20 and mini’s)
$70 inscriptions

[BlowoutBuzz]

Win a Super Bowl, get a pay raise.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by asujbl

I know… and he isn’t great

The Eagles are a great team though. Especially that front 7

He’s good though. I will tip my cap to that

No, he’s great.

You don’t get to two SBs, win one and perform well in both and not be called great.

That’s dumb.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

No, he’s great.

You don’t get to two SBs, win one and perform well in both and not be called great.

That’s dumb.

Whatever you say

Hurts isn't great. He's just good

You're smarter than this but I know you're just stirring the pot

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Whatever you say

Hurts isn't great. He's just good

You're smarter than this but I know you're just stirring the pot

He’s great.

No cap.

[daveyc1]

an autograph is a luxury item.

no one is being forced to purchase said item.

the prices are wholly dependent on demand. If people stop paying, they will lower. I read earlier in the thread they are sold out. so it sounds like $400 is a bit too low.

Good for Jalen for getting such a good price. I have never understood the complaining over auto prices. Pay up, or dont.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by Grid

$400 only gets you his auto on something small. You want him to sign your helmet or football? That would be $450.

And the inscription is actually $200, not $150. And he will only add SB LIX MVP. Nothing else or anything different.

https://phillyshow.com/autograph-guest/hurts-jalen/

Not sure why anyone would think this is absurd. Dude makes $50MIL a year playing football. For him to get out of bed and do a signing, it takes a lot ($) of incentive. Same with any big current players.

Like someone already said, Hurts is sold out, even at those "absurd" prices. Sounds to me, like Fanatics actually left money on the table. They could have sold them for more.

Originally I thought maybe they left some meat on the bone because they sold out. But I was thinking maybe it was priced just about right. How long did the tickets last until they sold out? I think if they sold out anywhere from 4-24 hrs, then they were priced just about right.

Ideally you want everyone that wants a ticket (outside of price) to be able to get one. But you don't want tickets sitting there for days. That's also a bad look.

[JosieD]

Originally Posted by SethMurphy

If you want to know who's going to pay this, I leave this info for you

Too many big words.


People pay just as much for those cameo things. I would send the $400 to St Jude instead if I had it.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Originally I thought maybe they left some meat on the bone because they sold out. But I was thinking maybe it was priced just about right. How long did the tickets last until they sold out? I think if they sold out anywhere from 4-24 hrs, then they were priced just about right.

Ideally you want everyone that wants a ticket (outside of price) to be able to get one. But you don't want tickets sitting there for days. That's also a bad look.

I cant say how long it took to sell out. But if you have ever bought autos at a card show, you'd know that most players don't sell out. So I wouldn't say it would be a bad look, if that didn't happen. As it rarely does happen.

Now Fanatics does limit how many tickets get sold to the public. Unlike a normal promoter, who would let a player sign until their arm falls off. But all levels of Hurts sold out.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by spend1kget50bac

true, but the price set by the dealer/promotor is going to track pretty closely based on his appearance fee charged(and I'm not bashing hurts in the least; take what you can get). That's simply because the promotor is going to charge a price that gets the most total $, and hurts is going to charge a price that gets him the most(so they're going to naturally track)

If Hurts was concerned about how the $400 per looks, he could just accept a lower appearance fee and then stipulate as part of accepting that fee the per signature fee be capped. I wouldn't do that if I were hurts(and I wouldn't have a problem with how it looks), but he has the ability to do so.

If Hurts was really concerned, couldn't he just sign autographs for free? I think some athletes have stipulations where they can't sign autographs (Kris Bryant and Caleb Williams come to mind for some reason). Or the athletes have to sign a different way if they sign for free. I remember Bryant signed "KB" with a smiley face when he signed for ppl at Wrigley.

But if Jalen wanted to give some kind of autograph to the ppl for free, he could.

If he wants to do it for gobs of money, go for it. As someone who makes their living playing a violent sport, go make your money while you can.

[boxbuster7]

Even Eagles fans think Hurts is mediocre

Thats when you know it is bad

[mjekase]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

Even Eagles fans think Hurts is mediocre

Thats when you know it is bad

Who thinks he's "mediocre"?
And when what is bad?

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by mjekase

Who thinks he's "mediocre"?
And when what is bad?

Lets just say theres a nice #$% hurts rookie sitting for $2k on ebay...the market doesn't respect him. And theres a reason why.