Cryptozoic - Batman: Hush

cmixer · 03-31-2025, 04:09 PM

This is a very different kind of product for them.

No sketch cards.
Only two signers. Autographs Cards 1:545 Boxes.

finfangfan · 03-31-2025, 04:30 PM

How much longer can Crypto put out DC card sets. Is the Upper Deck DC card license not exclusive?

CicadaMound · 03-31-2025, 05:25 PM

It isn't exclusive, that's not mentioned in the press release. Warner Brothers Discovery doesn't care about protecting their IP beyond avoiding obviously bad partnerships.

Rictor · 03-31-2025, 05:30 PM

Batman: Hush the graphic novel came out in 2002 and the movie adaption came out in 2019. Seems like an odd choice for an entire card set. Maybe if it had come out when either of those was released.

finfangfan · 03-31-2025, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rictor

Batman: Hush the graphic novel came out in 2002 and the movie adaption came out in 2019. Seems like an odd choice for an entire card set. Maybe if it had come out when either of those was released.

Hush 2 comic recently came out and Upoer Deck even has an exclusive comic cover offer through their Collect Forever site.

ddilts399 · 03-31-2025, 06:20 PM

To save others time looking..

Autograph Cards signed on-card by Jim Lee and Jeph Loeb

finfangfan · 03-31-2025, 06:23 PM

Thanks… I found the full checklist here… https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/04...f?v=1742877759

CicadaMound · 03-31-2025, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rictor

Batman: Hush the graphic novel came out in 2002 and the movie adaption came out in 2019. Seems like an odd choice for an entire card set. Maybe if it had come out when either of those was released.

Hush 1 was a story arc in the comics, not a standalone graphic novel. You can only really do a hobby boxed set based on a story arc on an anniversary, in an "annual"/yearly retrospective format (like Flagship Topps tells the story of the previous baseball season), or around a sequel. It's easier to do a set for a movie but it's hard getting sets for big theatrical movies, let alone cartoons for nerds.

Xiarmadillo · 03-31-2025, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CicadaMound

It isn't exclusive, that's not mentioned in the press release. Warner Brothers Discovery doesn't care about protecting their IP beyond avoiding obviously bad partnerships.

Exclusive Licensing is not necessarily protecting the IP though....The reason why Fanatics is able to get alot of exclusive licensing is because they offer ownership stakes to get them
NBA, NFL, MLB, MLB players association, and MLS all own Fanatics equity, with the payoff being a future IPO (this is why you see them milking the teats dry to pump the books these last few years to try to get better valuation, at the cost of collectors and fans)

cmixer · 04-01-2025, 08:57 AM

I wonder if sketch cards weren't included because Cryptozoic couldn't guarantee the subjects would all be related to the Hush storyline.

finfangfan · 04-01-2025, 09:16 AM

Probably just logistics. Easier to compile a set with the configuration they arrived at. Looks like only 10 autos total.

CicadaMound · 04-01-2025, 11:26 AM

Yeah, no sketches = no waiting for artists + no approvals needed. Numbered foilboard chase cards = no exotic printing tech = cheaper, easier, faster. 1/1, /20, /50, /608 parallel structure = totally feasible rainbows, set builds, AND clear high- end chases.

I'd MAYBE add a case hit but that might tip the configuration more in an advanced breaker direction.

Rictor · 04-01-2025, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CicadaMound

Hush 1 was a story arc in the comics, not a standalone graphic novel. You can only really do a hobby boxed set based on a story arc on an anniversary, in an "annual"/yearly retrospective format (like Flagship Topps tells the story of the previous baseball season), or around a sequel. It's easier to do a set for a movie but it's hard getting sets for big theatrical movies, let alone cartoons for nerds.

Yah, I read it when it came out. It wasn't a particularly good or iconic story. The only thing it really had going for it was the Jim Lee art. If you're going to do a card set around a Batman graphic novel or storyline, Killing Joke, Year One, or Dark Knight Returns seem like more obvious choices. But why limit yourself to one storyline for a card set? Why not a Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told trading card set with classic art from multiple stories?

finfangfan · 04-01-2025, 05:13 PM

It sold really well… and Jim Lee’s art was solid, but I agree remembering not thinking the overall story was worthy of the high acclaim it was getting. I also was reading it week to week. I want to say it was one of the first comics with a variant cover for the 2nd printing. There were variant covers before (X-men 1, Man of Steel, etc) but the second printing a of comics initially were like gold/bronze or in the case of DC had Roman numeral 2… or even not clearly indicated on front (Dark Night later printings were in the indicia inside).

03-31-2025, 04:09 PM	#1
cmixer Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 2,071	Cryptozoic - Batman: Hush This is a very different kind of product for them. No sketch cards. Only two signers. Autographs Cards 1:545 Boxes.

03-31-2025, 05:25 PM	#3
CicadaMound Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Ohio Posts: 546 CicadaMound	It isn't exclusive, that's not mentioned in the press release. Warner Brothers Discovery doesn't care about protecting their IP beyond avoiding obviously bad partnerships. __________________ Twitter: @Lamplighter42 IG @Lamplighter.42 Looking for autos/relics of cartoon voice actors - one role as confirmed on IMDb is enough to qualify.

04-01-2025, 11:26 AM	#12
CicadaMound Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Ohio Posts: 546 CicadaMound	Yeah, no sketches = no waiting for artists + no approvals needed. Numbered foilboard chase cards = no exotic printing tech = cheaper, easier, faster. 1/1, /20, /50, /608 parallel structure = totally feasible rainbows, set builds, AND clear high- end chases. I'd MAYBE add a case hit but that might tip the configuration more in an advanced breaker direction. __________________ Twitter: @Lamplighter42 IG @Lamplighter.42 Looking for autos/relics of cartoon voice actors - one role as confirmed on IMDb is enough to qualify.

03-31-2025, 04:30 PM	#2
finfangfan Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 11,044	How much longer can Crypto put out DC card sets. Is the Upper Deck DC card license not exclusive?

03-31-2025, 05:30 PM	#4
Rictor Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,883 rictor1 rictor	Batman: Hush the graphic novel came out in 2002 and the movie adaption came out in 2019. Seems like an odd choice for an entire card set. Maybe if it had come out when either of those was released.

03-31-2025, 06:20 PM	#6
ddilts399 Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 97	To save others time looking.. Autograph Cards signed on-card by Jim Lee and Jeph Loeb

03-31-2025, 06:23 PM	#7
finfangfan Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 11,044	Thanks… I found the full checklist here… https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/04...f?v=1742877759

04-01-2025, 08:57 AM	#10
cmixer Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 2,071	I wonder if sketch cards weren't included because Cryptozoic couldn't guarantee the subjects would all be related to the Hush storyline.

04-01-2025, 09:16 AM	#11
finfangfan Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 11,044	Probably just logistics. Easier to compile a set with the configuration they arrived at. Looks like only 10 autos total.

04-01-2025, 05:13 PM	#14
finfangfan Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 11,044	It sold really well… and Jim Lee’s art was solid, but I agree remembering not thinking the overall story was worthy of the high acclaim it was getting. I also was reading it week to week. I want to say it was one of the first comics with a variant cover for the 2nd printing. There were variant covers before (X-men 1, Man of Steel, etc) but the second printing a of comics initially were like gold/bronze or in the case of DC had Roman numeral 2… or even not clearly indicated on front (Dark Night later printings were in the indicia inside).