2024/5 Topps Dynasty

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by BagwellHOF

2025 Regular Season has already started and Topps hasn't even announced a release date for "2024" Dynasty, their most expensive set.

What an absolute joke. How do you get an entire year behind on your most expensive product?

Better get used to it. Imagine how bad the delays will be when they start licensed football and basketball.

[BagwellHOF]

Almost May. Still not even a release date. Remarkable.

[BagwellHOF]

Wondering, I guess to myself here, if this ends up being a 2024-25 multi-yr release.

I mean honestly it might as well be, just do a release that covers both yrs now, and get back on schedule.

[NickyCards]

Need new names on that checklist

[Rooftop]

Still printing..

[BagwellHOF]

2023 Topps Dynasty was released March 22, 2024, which seemed absurdly late.

Will 2024 even come out in first half of 2025?

It just doesn't make any sense to me. Fanatics is releasing plenty of other product. What the heck is going on with this set, their highest end baseball product?

[Bhenry4]

2023 Heritage High Number was released 12/13/23. 2024 Heritage High Number was released a month ago on 3/25. So with a delay date of three+ months, I wouldn't be surprised to see Dynasty released in June or July.

This is the new norm.

[hermanotarjeta]

The further delay helps the build up to their goal of $9999 per sealed case on release day.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

The further delay helps the build up to their goal of $9999 per sealed case on release day.

If the checklist is big enough, breakers will have no problem buying cases at that price.

[bd3d86]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

If the checklist is big enough, breakers will have no problem buying cases at that price.

Even breakers would have a tough time with that price. 5 box case and $2000 for 1 card??? That would be crazy.

[marlinsmaniac20]

Why do people still care about this product? It’s the same thing year in and year out. There isn’t much variety to the designs and even the top names can be had for less than a box price

[footfutbol]

Originally Posted by marlinsmaniac20

Why do people still care about this product? It’s the same thing year in and year out. There isn’t much variety to the designs and even the top names can be had for less than a box price

Personally, I enjoy the design of the RPAs in dynasty and agree I would only buy singles after the initial launch buzz comes down vs buying into a break. If you buy into a break of this, you clearly enjoy lighting money on fire

[BagwellHOF]

Originally Posted by marlinsmaniac20

Why do people still care about this product? It’s the same thing year in and year out. There isn’t much variety to the designs and even the top names can be had for less than a box price

I love the design some years and I think it's the best looking product they make. 2017, 2018, 2020 Dynasty all amazing looking cards IMHO.

Totally agree buying unopened boxes or breaks is burning money, but I am happy to pickup my favorite players on the aftermarket for a fraction of the price.

It is crazy that Topps prices Dynasty so high now, but unless they raise the price, the breakers end up making more profit than they do on their product.

The solution is for people to stop paying nonsensical prices for breaks, that is what is feeding the beast.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by bd3d86

Even breakers would have a tough time with that price. 5 box case and $2000 for 1 card??? That would be crazy.

Obviously, $9999 would be too much for a case right now. I was mildly joking, but just mildly. Breakers would have no problem with $2k a case right now though. In most, but not all, breaks the breakers will sell slots by name (sometimes by team). For a product like Dynasty, they can sell a slot for each name on the checklist, regardless of how many cards are in a case.

This is 2023’s Dynasty checklist: https://www.beckett.com/news/2023-to...aseball-cards/

Some slots go unsold, some sell for below $10, some sell for $50-$100. The big names can get you much more. They might gripe a bit, but they could still buy at $2k a case.

One way we know this is that while you see individual collectors and sellers complain about wax prices daily here, you don’t hear a peep out of established breakers. They are absolutely raking in money hand over fist right now.

[BagwellHOF]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Obviously, $9999 would be too much for a case right now. I was mildly joking, but just mildly. Breakers would have no problem with $2k a case right now though. In most, but not all, breaks the breakers will sell slots by name (sometimes by team). For a product like Dynasty, they can sell a slot for each name on the checklist, regardless of how many cards are in a case.

This is 2023’s Dynasty checklist: https://www.beckett.com/news/2023-to...aseball-cards/

Some slots go unsold, some sell for below $10, some sell for $50-$100. The big names can get you much more. They might gripe a bit, but they could still buy at $2k a case.

One way we know this is that while you see individual collectors and sellers complain about wax prices daily here, you don’t hear a peep out of established breakers. They are absolutely raking in money hand over fist right now.

$2k for a case? That's a given. Years where there are good rookies they could probably get $5k or more.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by BagwellHOF

$2k for a case? That's a given. Years where there are good rookies they could probably get $5k or more.

Yup. These products with long checklists and a low amount of actual cards, are a breakers dream come true: more money, less work. The prices will only go up for now until something drastically changes. Which is possible! Just not something I see on the horizon right now.

[BagwellHOF]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Yup. These products with long checklists and a low amount of actual cards, are a breakers dream come true: more money, less work. The prices will only go up for now until something drastically changes. Which is possible! Just not something I see on the horizon right now.

Someone needs to build a tool that shows people the odds so they are not bidding $50 for a 1/1000th chance at some random card.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by BagwellHOF

Someone needs to build a tool that shows people the odds so they are not bidding $50 for a 1/1000th chance at some random card.

No need. I’m pretty confident that breaker johns have complete disregard for the concept of math.

[Bhenry4]

Specifically buy into breaks on the low to mid end teams simply to have dibs with some of the degens. It’s annoying when every Tom, Dick and Harry hops into the chat when a cool card is hit. The breaker is more willing to help connect of course, and there is SOME entertainment value (however brief).

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by BagwellHOF

Someone needs to build a tool that shows people the odds so they are not bidding $50 for a 1/1000th chance at some random card.

LOL @ thinking this would make a difference.

[cruiserdaddy7]

This stuff got over 5k a case last year. I think this will drop around 7-8k and sell fast.

[johnlocke36]

Originally Posted by BagwellHOF

Someone needs to build a tool that shows people the odds so they are not bidding $50 for a 1/1000th chance at some random card.

I wrote a program that basically calculated EV of opening any box or doing a team break. Works largely by scraping eBay for singles data and using multipliers by color etc. was in the process of trying to turn it into an app except there was pretty much 0 market for it because…..

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

No need. I’m pretty confident that breaker johns have complete disregard for the concept of math.

Wa also going to use it to see which boxes I could open for a profit or small loss but obv turned out to be 0.

The only plausible revenue stream I thought I could have would be spamming all the breakers on twitter and posting the actual EV of the breaks they are selling then seeing if they would pay me to simply not post results lol.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by johnlocke36

I wrote a program that basically calculated EV of opening any box or doing a team break. Works largely by scraping eBay for singles data and using multipliers by color etc. was in the process of trying to turn it into an app except there was pretty much 0 market for it because…..



Wa also going to use it to see which boxes I could open for a profit or small loss but obv turned out to be 0.

The only plausible revenue stream I thought I could have would be spamming all the breakers on twitter and posting the actual EV of the breaks they are selling then seeing if they would pay me to simply not post results lol.

LOL, ransomware for breakers!

[BagwellHOF]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

LOL @ thinking this would make a difference.

Even the idiots that play slot machines look at the odds before they burn their money. It would help.

[BagwellHOF]

Originally Posted by johnlocke36

I wrote a program that basically calculated EV of opening any box or doing a team break. Works largely by scraping eBay for singles data and using multipliers by color etc. was in the process of trying to turn it into an app except there was pretty much 0 market for it because…..



Wa also going to use it to see which boxes I could open for a profit or small loss but obv turned out to be 0.

The only plausible revenue stream I thought I could have would be spamming all the breakers on twitter and posting the actual EV of the breaks they are selling then seeing if they would pay me to simply not post results lol.

What if you just made it more like a wiki style site like Baseballcardpedia?