Modern makes junk wax look like peanuts

[Bcr]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I don’t even know where to begin. To suggest that there’s no reason why sports cards can’t be like Pokemon demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the two hobbies.

In terms of strategy? Why can't they be similar? I get your thing is that you are always the smartest person in the room but you are taking a general statement way to deep.

[Twalk1975]

Originally Posted by sandyfrank

I'll give one - Charizard isn't going to get caught messing around with an under age girl and tank his entire card market.

I'll give a bonus one - Pokemon cards are what the upcoming generations collect, not baseball cards.

No idea if it happens in Pokemon, but I was in a comic/TCG shop last year after several Magic cards were banned for tournament play. People were heated because the announcement immediately tanked the value of the cards.

[sandyfrank]

Originally Posted by Twalk1975

No idea if it happens in Pokemon, but I was in a comic/TCG shop last year after several Magic cards were banned for tournament play. People were heated because the announcement immediately tanked the value of the cards.

It could happen in Pokemon but there are more collectors than players in Pokemon, more players than collectors in Magic. Thus if a card gets banned in Magic the price tanks, if a card got banned in Pokemon probably wouldn't effect it as much. I think the Roaring Skies Shaymin EX got banned but it is still worth something to collectors, takes a hit but not like a Magic banned card.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Bcr

In terms of strategy? Why can't they be similar? I get your thing is that you are always the smartest person in the room but you are taking a general statement way to deep.

Pokemon has been cultivating a following for 30 years through the TCG, TV series, movies, video games, toys, and Pokemon Go. It is popular across multiple generations because it’s accessible, affordable, and constantly being reinvigorated while still maintaining its core. Sports cards have none of that. It is piss to Pokémon.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by sandyfrank

I'll give one - Charizard isn't going to get caught messing around with an under age girl and tank his entire card market.

I'll give a bonus one - Pokemon cards are what the upcoming generations collect, not baseball cards.

The flip side is that nobody is going to say that Charizard is his hero, want his autograph, or go watch him play.

He's an imaginary character in a game.....

[Big35Hurt]

Originally Posted by mfw13

The flip side is that nobody is going to say that Charizard is his hero, want his autograph, or go watch him play.

He's an imaginary character in a game.....

And to add to your point, some people that collect Pokemon work imaginary jobs.

[volblorx8634]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

The old generation has always hated the state of modern collecting, regardless of specific timeline. Old people can’t stand most of the things young people do/like.

I get your frustration, but it’s still pretty easy to ignore the stuff I don’t like though. I think the current state of the hobby is much better than where it was during the COVID boom. I had a lot of fun building a Chourio PC over the last 8 months. Lots to choose from, and at a better price than from ‘20-22.

Collectors who want to build their collections are the real benefactors from the current state of things. Immense supply and a plethora of options to choose from. They get great looking cards for peanuts in many cases. Of course profiteers (flippers/breakers) too. The investing collector is the one who might not be as well off because they’re looking specifically for the cards that’ll increase in value.


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[ScooterD]

Originally Posted by Big35Hurt

And to add to your point, some people that collect Pokemon work imaginary jobs.

I don’t get it - can you give an example of an imaginary job?

[sandyfrank]

Originally Posted by mfw13

The flip side is that nobody is going to say that Charizard is his hero, want his autograph, or go watch him play.

He's an imaginary character in a game.....

Yes but that was not the argument -

"Don't understand why Fanatics doesn't replicate Pokemons strategy. No reason sports cards shouldn't be booming like Pokemon is."

Pokemon is booming because the average person under 30 (maybe even under 40) that collects cards is likely collecting Pokemon and not Baseball. And every year you go younger in this theoretical focus group the percentage shifts more and more to Pokemon. So this is why Pokemon is booming, a huge market is continuing to age into wanting to recapture their youth by collecting Pokemon, grading Pokemon etc. And unfortunately the Baseball share of this market is shrinking every year. If you took 50 average 10 year olds and put a pack each of Pokemon, Baseball, Football, Basketball I would guarantee at least 75% are going to choose the Pokemon pack, then Football, then Basketball and finally Baseball. Fanatics cannot possibly do anything to replicate this, except maybe getting a Pokemon license and do a Chrome and Paper Pokemon set.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by volblorx8634

Collectors who want to build their collections are the real benefactors from the current state of things. Immense supply and a plethora of options to choose from. They get great looking cards for peanuts in many cases. Of course profiteers (flippers/breakers) too. The investing collector is the one who might not be as well off because they’re looking specifically for the cards that’ll increase in value.


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Yeah, as a singles collector, I’m loving it. Also, I assume all ultra modern purchases are a sunk cost.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by sandyfrank

Fanatics cannot possibly do anything to replicate this, except maybe getting a Pokemon license and do a Chrome and Paper Pokemon set.

I brought this up in the TCG section. I don’t think Pokemon would be interested in teaming up with Topps again. But if they did, a new Chrome set would be the most popular release in the history of trading cards.

[MadduxTheGoat]

I’m an old dude but I do know Pokémon is on fire. Not my cup of tea but the youngsters love it.

[rogueriver]

If you are old enough to remember the Pokémon craze in 1998-2000. It was even worse however then it died, I don’t think this Pokémon craze is going to last but it will always be part of the hobby. Our card shop became like 75 percent Pokémon and like 90 percent of our sales were Pokémon and then just as fast as the fire started it died out. This one will probably last longer because a lot of the collectors are older and actually have some money whereas it the 1999 craze it was all kids begging their parents for money and most parents did not want to pony up 50 for a charizard

[Allen Ginter 99]

If you look at print runs between all the products , and variations like hobby / blaster / hanger / fat pack im sure each rookie bow probably has 2-3 million rookie cards not including all the dumb parallels and /499 /299 /199 /99 /49 /10 etc

Printing presses are printing too the moon q


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[sickmantz]

Whatever copium you use to poo-poo the comparison to the junk wax era, it's undeniable that base cards from almost every release will be be more valuable as kindling a short time after release.

[MadduxTheGoat]

Glad old dudes are stepping in here. There is extreme scarcity in junk wax psa 10s and 10/10s. 89 upperdeck low series Bbce sealed boxes are going for 550. Junk wax is on sale right now compared to modern. I feel like I’m watch a car crash no one else is looking at. I’m 47 years old so not boomer. 85-89 were my prime ripping years.

[ThoseBackPages]

1989 UD has never been junk wax

[MadduxTheGoat]

Agree. Just an example. 20 years ago those were cheap