A Rare Find

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by Promethius88

In order to save others the pain of reading thru 14 pages, I'll give my take.

1. I'm not positive the OP isn't Dale Ball. If you don't know who he is, Google it.
2. The card itself isn't that great.
3. It's not a 1/1 or unique no matter what OP says.
4. Roki Sasaki is a less than average MLB pitcher at this point with arm issues.
5. Roki Sasaki will NEVER sniff the HOF unless he buys a ticket.
6. "Generational talent" is waaaay overused these days.
7. OP might be genuine but more than likely delusional.
8. It's not a rookie card.
9. Outside of OP, nobody cares about this card.
10. If Frenzy were here, this would get some votes for Thread of the Year.
10a. Not Thread of the Year for any good it has done for the hobby.

Somehow I missed the Dale Ball story. That dude is from Sparks, NV too? That's exactly where Jason Mars and his Honus Wagner are from.

[Jamessingh1992]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

I never said anything about how long you have been researching this card. Inferred opinions don't really tell us anything. I'd bet they didn't try to call them or email. They probably used the internet and couldn't find anything along with all sorts of info that lead them to decide not to take the risk.

But you are still playing here... you said you were told not to disclose any info about the print run, etc. NOT one time do I see that any where in the emails you have shared.

No no, you misread. I said Konami does not disclose print runs period.
If they aren't giving out numbers for their biggest cash cow Yu Gi OH! Then why would they for a smaller set they produce? They simply do not give them out, period.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Jamessingh1992

No no, you misread. I said Konami does not disclose print runs period.
If they aren't giving out numbers for their biggest cash cow Yu Gi OH! Then why would they for a smaller set they produce? They simply do not give them out, period.

They told me they do not release such information and such information is not publicly available regarding print run.

Konami didn't tell you anything and you inferred that PSA actually got told no. No one told you anything.

And for the record the card that I shared with you and you said it was the same as the brown background... Nope

[Jamessingh1992]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

So is this a fake or the same card

https://paypayfleamarket.yahoo.co.jp/item/p1053853513

This likely another fake card.

Here is the picture of the real authenticated only 1 for comparison. Notice the black line farthest to the left doesn't disappear near the bottom. I'm talking about the line going up and down near the border of the left card.

This is how i am able to tell. And yes, it counts. If someone can say a wing of a charizard is supposed to touch or not touch a border then yes, this is the same logic.



Okay, there i disproved it. Not only that but it is not authenticated.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Nobody is faking that card. You are delusional. It's a card no one even knows about. Unkown cards aren't faked.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Jamessingh1992

This likely another fake card.

Here is the picture of the real authenticated only 1 for comparison. Notice the black line farthest to the left doesn't disappear near the bottom. I'm talking about the line going up and down near the border of the left card.

This is how i am able to tell. And yes, it counts. If someone can say a wing of a charizard is supposed to touch or not touch a border then yes, this is the same logic.



Okay, there i disproved it. Not only that but it is not authenticated.

So now you an authenticator. So it's another fake? So which one did you buy? I'm running out of sales that have been shared with you?

Just because you make something up doesn't mean you disproved anything.

The only reason you are saying it's a fake is because it doesn't fit your narrative. You have no proof. Only AI and your opinion. You even first answered about this that it was the same as the brown and when I told you nope it's not, then oh well its another fake.

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Nobody is faking that card.

Facts.

[Jamessingh1992]

The card has fakes. Use your eyes.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Jamessingh1992

The card has fakes. Use your eyes.

Now your the expert got it.

Did you buy this online? I'm seriously running out of sales that you haven't said are fake

[Jamessingh1992]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Now your the expert got it.

Did you buy this online? I'm seriously running out of sales that you haven't said are fake

Thank for understanding that there aren't many sales of this and that yes I did buy this online I showed my ebay purchase of it a few pages back. I'm on my phone now, making lunch

[Promethius88]

Maybe OP's card is fake and the others are real!

[ScooterD]

Let’s just admit that he’s right about everything and wish him luck.

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

Let’s just admit that he’s right about everything and wish him luck.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Jamessingh1992

Thank for understanding that there aren't many sales of this and that yes I did buy this online I showed my ebay purchase of it a few pages back. I'm on my phone now, making lunch

Forgot you posted that. My bad. So the one that sold in Japan in 2023 wouldn't be yours, so it's a fake right?

Wish we could find all these fakes and get them off the market.

[Jamessingh1992]

I'm deeming it fake because I'm forced to stand up for my authenticated one and it doesn't match the authenticated one. And thank you scooter

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Jamessingh1992

I'm deeming it fake because I'm forced to stand up for my authenticated one and it doesn't match the authenticated one. And thank you scooter

You do realize there is a decent chance based on your own deductions that the picture I showed you is the one you said was being passed around right?

[Jamessingh1992]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

You do realize there is a decent chance based on your own deductions that the picture I showed you is the one being passed around right?

Based on date sure, based on appearance no. I can deduce it is one of the fakes by the black line that doesn't blend into the holo on the bottom left indicating different printing technique. It's quite easy to spot. I want to thank you for showing me that though because it's another one I can cross off the list that card ladder nor ebay showed.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Jamessingh1992

Based on date sure, based on appearance no. I can deduce it is one of the fakes by the black line that doesn't blend into the holo on the bottom left indicating different printing technique. It's quite easy to spot. I want to thank you for showing me that though because it's another one I can cross off the list that card ladder nor ebay showed.

But wait are you sure ebay and card ladder didn't show it? How can you tell what card is what you have so many versions based on your deductions.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Jamessingh1992

Based on date sure, based on appearance no. I can deduce it is one of the fakes by the black line that doesn't blend into the holo on the bottom left indicating different printing technique. It's quite easy to spot. I want to thank you for showing me that though because it's another one I can cross off the list that card ladder nor ebay showed.

I put both side by side and have no idea what you are talking about.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Jamessingh1992

Based on date sure, based on appearance no. I can deduce it is one of the fakes by the black line that doesn't blend into the holo on the bottom left indicating different printing technique. It's quite easy to spot. I want to thank you for showing me that though because it's another one I can cross off the list that card ladder nor ebay showed.

You already admitted to not even knowing how it was printed, or if it was printed in the game machine or pre-printed and loaded in the machine. How in the world do you think you can authenticate these cards via photos when printing variances could be completely normal? You're literally just making crap up and moving your "facts" every time you find something new that disproves your original story. For someone who has allegedly researched this for months, your story has grown quite a bit in 2 days. You yourself originally claimed they were the same card. Now they are so different one must be fake. What a freaking joke. None of them are fake. And they are all $65 cards (dropping by the minute as not only is Sasaki sidelined, but people all over the internet now can't stand you and your lame 2nd year card). Your plan to pump this card has backfired. It's an anti-pump.

[Jamessingh1992]

I've already made a post showing the real one around page 12. Please refer to that. I don't feel like I need to prove my authenticated copies to copies that have not been authenticated and I have already told tou guys the indicator.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Jamessingh1992

I've already made a post showing the real one around page 12. Please refer to that. I don't feel like I need to prove my authenticated copies to copies that have not been authenticated and I have already told tou guys the indicator.

BULLCRAP

Just because you say words doesn't make them so.

There is no indicator. They are all real. You are just making crap up.

[Jamessingh1992]

You can be angry if you want but it won't effect me. Her is the post I'm referring to on page 13. By the way I saved a blown up picture of all of these fakes to prove my point if it comes up in the future. This is now concluded you can see above the red squared part that the closest black line to the left edge of the card doesn't quite fade the same. This is a different printing technique. A fake. They use printing plates which should all match up. The technique is unknown due to no print run information. I lul at all of you.

[Fulmer4MVP]

This is either a very dedicated troll job, or this guy is the dumbest person on the planet, I am split 50 50 on which one it is.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Get out of here with that garbage. You couldn't even tell the difference yesterday, and now you are a printing expert who can spot printing techniques? What a moron.