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Old 06-21-2025, 07:19 AM   #6776
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The Orioles are in last place but “only” 10 games out of first which is the best position for a last place team in any of the 6 divisions in MLB.

ORIOLES— 10 games out of first
WHITE SOX — 23.5 games out
A’s— 13 games out

NATIONALS/MARLINS— 15 games out
PIRATES — 16 games out
ROCKIES — 29.5 games out

While unlikely, the fact they still have an outside shot of making the playoffs by winning their division might make things interesting at the trade deadline.
They're 18-14 under Mansolino. Oh what could've been if they didn't bring Hyde back this year...yeah, lots of injuries to start the year, including Gunnar, but Hyde frequently snatched losses from the jaws of victory.
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Old 06-21-2025, 07:56 AM   #6777
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Best last place team is not a title I considered, but accurate. Weird season.


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Old 06-27-2025, 07:54 PM   #6778
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Good comeback from Orioles tonight. Hopefully they can hold on. I actually like watching baseball on AppleTV.
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Old 06-27-2025, 07:55 PM   #6779
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They just ran the stat 19 homers this season that wouldn’t have been homers last year when left field wall was pushed back.
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Old 06-28-2025, 06:29 AM   #6780
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Quite a win last night!

I remembered I took a screenshot of the graphic that 19 HRs hit this year that would not have been home runs the last two years. So looks like Camden Yards is on pace to see 40 additional home runs this year due to new dimensions. I miss the old Walltimore and feel it produced some more quality baseball games. However, I realize I am in the minority and most fans love the expanded splash zone and the new park dimensions providing even more opportunities to be splashed.

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Old 06-28-2025, 06:52 AM   #6781
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O's are my favorite AL Team (thanks Cal) but this team has been the most injured team in baseball this year.
Plus not bringing Burnes back (they tried but he chose family > winning which I can respect)
It's only June 28th and there's not only Division but WC spots O's can still try and claim. So there's always a chance. Nats and Phillies weren't good when they went to the WS (1 won it) so never count a team out especially a team that DOES have good talent like O's. Hopefully Adley isn't out long.
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Old 06-28-2025, 07:00 AM   #6782
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For sure… they definitely could get hot and go like 20-5 at some point and be in the thick of things. Like you have said, they got plagued by injuries. And some of the underperforming players (like Adley) likely had something to do with them playing banged up.

It will be interesting to see if they are buyers or sellers at deadline. If deadline was today… I would assume sellers. But since we still have plenty of ball to play until the deadline, it could potentially go either way. Especially due to the expanded WC playoff spot.

If we sell, I’m not sure of the chances of getting a quality return that makes us better next year. Probably the biggest return would come from dealing a guy like Bautista but he’s a closer we would like to keep if we plan on contending next year. O’Hearn would probably net something, but again I doubt it would be anything spectacular. Mullins slowed down after his hot April and Sugano/Morton/Eflin could be dealt but probably net very little.
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Old 06-28-2025, 08:27 AM   #6783
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I really hope we keep Bautista - think would have to be blown away to move him

Agreed with the above - I am not sure the return on any of these guys would really be all that much
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Old 07-03-2025, 06:53 AM   #6784
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I think the clock just struck midnight for Sugano and he pumpkined.
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Old 07-03-2025, 12:00 PM   #6785
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I really hope we keep Bautista - think would have to be blown away to move him

Agreed with the above - I am not sure the return on any of these guys would really be all that much
It doesn't matter what the return is, dealing O'Hearn and Mullins for pretty much anything is at the very least addition by subtraction. This organization can't keep blocking elite prospects with Ryan O'Hearn at DH like it has since 2023. Mayo needs playing time (criminal how he's been handled), and so will Basallo once he's called up (Basallo should NOT be a major league catcher). We should give Dylan Beavers a look and see what we have if Donkey Mike Elias doesn't trade him for some crappy pitcher - Mullins is garbage.

As I've said earlier in this thread, Elias is a horrible GM. It's brutal that he's going to be making decisions again for such a crucial trade deadline and draft.
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Old 07-05-2025, 07:03 AM   #6786
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Looking toward the future, at what point do the Orioles offer an extension to Gunnar Henderson to hopefully keep him in Baltimore for the next ten years (if not his entire career)?

Of the batch of young players, I think Gunnar will likely have the best career. It would make sense for the Orioles to try to lock him up soon. While he is not eligible for free agency until 2029, the closer you get to that date the more likely he will test the open market where the Orioles would likely get outbid.
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Looking toward the future, at what point do the Orioles offer an extension to Gunnar Henderson to hopefully keep him in Baltimore for the next ten years (if not his entire career)?

Of the batch of young players, I think Gunnar will likely have the best career. It would make sense for the Orioles to try to lock him up soon. While he is not eligible for free agency until 2029, the closer you get to that date the more likely he will test the open market where the Orioles would likely get outbid.
They already tried last offseason. There's one HUGE problem and why everybody needs to not blame them if he doesn't sign: his agent is Scott Boras. Boras will NEVER let a player like Gunnar sign an extension. Altuve was the rare exception, but his market would've been limited anyway for him. Any team would want Gunnar, so you can bet that there's no way Gunnar isn't making it to free agency. Same with Westburg and Holliday. This is the risk of drafting Boras clients. The Nats luckily won the World Series before Boras pushed them all out.
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Old 07-05-2025, 09:51 AM   #6788
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Yeah… I guess the situation is not too encouraging. Hopefully we are able to get at least one World Series season while Gunnar is still with us.
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Old 07-08-2025, 05:27 PM   #6789
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They just showed a stat that we are playing .618 ball since May 30 (21-13). That’s actually better than what I thought it was. If we keep it up, we could snatch that sixth spot in the playoffs and maybe finish with momentum to advance further into the playoffs.

Jays are on fire too though… playing .714 ball over same time frame… so it’s still an uphill climb in our tough division.
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Old 07-08-2025, 10:14 PM   #6790
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They just showed a stat that we are playing .618 ball since May 30 (21-13). That’s actually better than what I thought it was. If we keep it up, we could snatch that sixth spot in the playoffs and maybe finish with momentum to advance further into the playoffs.

Jays are on fire too though… playing .714 ball over same time frame… so it’s still an uphill climb in our tough division.
This team's rotation is garbage. And the team's GM is a moron who prioritizes veteran bums like Gary Sanchez and Tyler O'Neill over a top 20 prospect in all of baseball.

As Orioles fans, we should want what's best for the team long-term. And we should actually be rooting for the team to lose a lot from now until the break so that Donkey Elias does the right thing and sells as many players as possible - O'Hearn, Laureano, Mullins, Eflin, Urias for anything in return. Then open up much-needed playing time for Mayo, Basallo, and Beavers.

The Tigers put on a clinic last year selling hard at the deadline, playing their young players, and making the playoffs despite selling off. While I would prefer for Elias not to be given yet another trade deadline to screw things up, unfortunately the reality is that he's still going to be in charge, so hopefully he learns something from what the Tigers did last season.

There's still enough talent on this year's team to sell as much as possible and still make a run to the playoffs. But holding on to the vets that have little or no future on this team would be yet another devastating mistake by Elias after multiple seasons of several bad mistakes and poor player development from him.
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Old 07-08-2025, 10:17 PM   #6791
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Jays are on fire too though… playing .714 ball over same time frame… so it’s still an uphill climb in our tough division.
The Red Sox are actually a more talented team in my opinion, but either way, both the Sox and Jays (and Rays and Yankees) are too many teams for the Orioles to compete with and surpass in the standings. Another reason Elias needs to be selling.
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Old 07-10-2025, 10:25 AM   #6792
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https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/...aker-rays.html

"The Rays are getting some bullpen help, acquiring right-handed reliever Bryan Baker from the Orioles in exchange for a 2025 Competitive Balance (Round A) draft selection, No. 37 overall. Both teams have announced the swap.

The Orioles now have four of the first 37 selections in this year’s draft. In addition to that pair of comp picks, Baltimore also has a pick in Competitive Balance Round B (between the second and third rounds of the draft). That gives them a staggering seven picks in the first 93 selections of this year’s draft and a massive bonus pool worth more than $19MM — the largest of any team in MLB."

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Old 07-10-2025, 10:46 AM   #6793
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I wonder if they will be able to nab a future SP with any of their picks.
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https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/...aker-rays.html

"The Rays are getting some bullpen help, acquiring right-handed reliever Bryan Baker from the Orioles in exchange for a 2025 Competitive Balance (Round A) draft selection, No. 37 overall. Both teams have announced the swap.

The Orioles now have four of the first 37 selections in this year’s draft. In addition to that pair of comp picks, Baltimore also has a pick in Competitive Balance Round B (between the second and third rounds of the draft). That gives them a staggering seven picks in the first 93 selections of this year’s draft and a massive bonus pool worth more than $19MM — the largest of any team in MLB."

Let the firesale begin!
Sounds like the selloff has begun. Mullins and O'Hearn probably not gonna be in Baltimore much longer either. Eflin and Sugano also guys possibly leaving town soon.
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Sounds like the selloff has begun. Mullins and O'Hearn probably not gonna be in Baltimore much longer either. Eflin and Sugano also guys possibly leaving town soon.
I have no idea why anyone would try to acquire Cedric Mullins but I certainly hope someone makes that mistake.
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Old 07-10-2025, 11:56 AM   #6796
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Sounds like the selloff has begun. Mullins and O'Hearn probably not gonna be in Baltimore much longer either. Eflin and Sugano also guys possibly leaving town soon.
It would be odd if O’Hearn got traded ahead of the All Star game. When was the last time a starter was traded before the game? Has it ever happened?
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It would be odd if O’Hearn got traded ahead of the All Star game. When was the last time a starter was traded before the game? Has it ever happened?
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I'm not sure a full selloff is coming just yet. Rays wanted to overpay for Baker who is very average at best
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Old 07-13-2025, 09:40 AM   #6799
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Orioles have played .615 ball since 5/30/25. if they keep up that pace over remaining 68 games they would finish with 85 wins. Last year two teams (KC and Detroit) made the playoffs with 86 wins. So there is still a chance for the Orioles to squeak in.

And I’m guessing Mansolino becomes the regular manager? I think he’s earned it so far, but can understand if the Orioles want to wait until the offseason.
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It would be odd if O’Hearn got traded ahead of the All Star game. When was the last time a starter was traded before the game? Has it ever happened?
And being the Os only representative, Would they have to replace someone with an O?
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