10-12K to put into a card to hold right now, what are you choosing? - Page 5

brewtown107 · 07-07-2025, 08:07 PM

Where are young people gonna learn about guys like Ruth, Aaron and Mays? Well, son, there's this thing called the internet, and it's my understanding that young people are on it all the time. Google "greatest baseball players of all time" and see who comes up. Look at who holds most of the career records. Those names are there.

When I was in my 20s, I had no interest in vintage cards, but as I have become more vintage myself, I have gained appreciation for them. That's the normal progression. I still think Mantle is a little overrated, because he doesn't rank that high on the all time leader boards and I don't care about the New York market. But Ruth, Aaron, Mays are right up there at the top.

eastbayak · 07-07-2025, 08:32 PM

There's a difference between knowing the baseball legends and being interested in their vintage cards.

You can also appreciate vintage cards (or vintage anything) without having any interest in actually owning them.

The fact of the matter is that most of the younger generation don't particularly care for vintage cards.

hatchd · 07-07-2025, 08:49 PM

Tie between the Jackie and Mantle for me with the Ohtani coming in 3rd if you're feeling frisky.

My write in candidate is a PSA 7-8 Frank Thomas NNOF.

OhioLawyerF5 · 07-07-2025, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by eastbayak

There's a difference between knowing the baseball legends and being interested in their vintage cards.

You can also appreciate vintage cards (or vintage anything) without having any interest in actually owning them.

The fact of the matter is that most of the younger generation don't particularly care for vintage cards.

They will. Give them time. They always do.

It's always been that way.

ThoseBackPages · 07-07-2025, 09:03 PM

when one starts collecting its natural for them to collect what they see in front of them in both cards and on the field

over time you start to go backwards and pick up old crap. thats how it works

somethingclever · 07-07-2025, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

when one starts collecting its natural for them to collect what they see in front of them in both cards and on the field

over time you start to go backwards and pick up old crap. thats how it works

I agree, when I collected as a kid (early 90s) I wanted the current stuff. I did pine after the vintage cards in the price guide and at the hobby shop but they weren’t in my price range at the time. When I got back into the hobby (2015ish) I started buying junk wax and current stuff, eventually I started going backwards starting with the 80s. Now I’m closing in on finishing my 72 set and picking up 60s HOFERS. Most of the 50s stuff is not in my budget but then again I never thought I’d own a Brett RC when I was a kid in the early 90s.

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Qubits · 07-07-2025, 09:29 PM

Only one of those cards is on my current wish list so it got my vote. I'd go with the Jackie.

SleepyWill · 07-07-2025, 09:32 PM

Going with Robinson, just going to try and find the nicest eye appeal 2-2.5 I can find.

If nothing jumps out at me, I'll do the most logical thing and invest in who ever goes first in this years draft

JohnnyHatesJazz · 07-07-2025, 09:33 PM

I’m in my mid 40s and I absolutely LOVE vintage cards. 50s has some beautiful sets. I imagine there will always be people like me gravitating towards those iconic cards.

Imnottheonly · 07-07-2025, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

They will. Give them time. They always do.

It's always been that way.

Past performance is not an indicator of future results.

Just because it's always been someway doesn't mean that it will continue to be, especially when a lot of new hobby participants are being brought in through the "flip", "gamble", or "inve$$$t" channels.

OhioLawyerF5 · 07-07-2025, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Imnottheonly

Past performance is not an indicator of future results.

Just because it's always been someway doesn't mean that it will continue to be, especially when a lot of new hobby participants are being brought in through the "flip", "gamble", or "inve$$$t" channels.

Past performance is the single best indicator of future results.

Human behavior is very easy to predict based on past behavior.

There is nothing whatsoever to indicate it will change in this instance. In fact, every indicator says vintage is going nowhere and more and more younger people are getting into it. It is completely baseless to suggest otherwise.

Anecdotes like a kid buying a Judge ball instead of DiMaggio means literally nothing.

Further, if your claim is new collectors are looking to invest, then it's even more likely they migrate to vintage as they age and begin to value safer investments.

Even the "influencers" are switching to hyping vintage.

NYRE2PECT · 07-07-2025, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

when one starts collecting its natural for them to collect what they see in front of them in both cards and on the field

over time you start to go backwards and pick up old crap. thats how it works

The poors (hint, hint) don't go backwards. Too expensive.

ThoseBackPages · 07-07-2025, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

The poors (hint, hint) don't go backwards. Too expensive.

i would guess they tend to drop out altogether then

OhioLawyerF5 · 07-07-2025, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SleepyWill

Going with Robinson, just going to try and find the nicest eye appeal 2-2.5 I can find.

If nothing jumps out at me, I'll do the most logical thing and invest in who ever goes first in this years draft

Can't go wrong with Jackie. Nice choice.

ThoseBackPages · 07-07-2025, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SleepyWill

Going with Robinson, just going to try and find the nicest eye appeal 2-2.5 I can find.

If nothing jumps out at me, I'll do the most logical thing and invest in who ever goes first in this years draft

Right on!

cant wait to see it!

NYRE2PECT · 07-07-2025, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i would guess they tend to drop out altogether then

Sort of...that old stuff costs a lot.

New stuff costs a lot, too.

Either way, it's not a poor man's hobby. That's why some of us have to pretend.

ThoseBackPages · 07-07-2025, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Sort of...that old stuff costs a lot.

New stuff costs a lot, too.

Either way, it's not a poor man's hobby. That's why some of us have to pretend.

that makes sense!

NYRE2PECT · 07-07-2025, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Can't go wrong with Jackie. Nice choice.

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Right on!

cant wait to see it!

Agree, #winning.

towerymt · 07-07-2025, 10:46 PM

This thread taught me that Hank Aaron is just a guy.

hermanotarjeta · 07-07-2025, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

This thread taught me that Hank Aaron is just a guy.

Apparently, will be forgotten because millennials and genZ don’t have good attention spans.

no10pin · 07-07-2025, 10:53 PM

I can't believe that the Willie Mays RC is coming in last behind two current players and 'Pie'.

brewtown107 · 07-07-2025, 11:55 PM

I voted pie because Goudey Ruth was not an option, and would be the best choice

REGGIE206 · 07-08-2025, 03:36 AM

Out of that list, I’ll go with the Mantle RC

jhssketchcards · 07-08-2025, 07:17 AM

Ohtani and Judge are one injury away from their careers being over. As stellar as their careers are, it can and has happened before, especially as they age. Ohtani already has 2 Tommy John surgeries, and it could have been catastrophic when Judge was hit in the face the other day by an errant throw.
I think back on Kirby Puckett and his being hit in the jaw late in 1995. It ended his season, and he was gearing up for a return next Spring he woke up one morning and his eye was bad, and ling story short, he had to retire due to loss of vision. He had driven in 112 RBI in 1994 before the strike and was having another great season in 1995 before being hit.
Stuff happens. No one saw the injury train Acuna has been on. My question to investors is do you think prices would hold long term for Ohtani or Judge if a career ending injury happened before any all-time marks were hit? Still HOFers and all, but falling short of major milestones… does that impact long term investment? Of the two I’d say Ohtani holds better than Judge.

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Twalk1975 · 07-08-2025, 08:13 AM

I would guess active players always have a quick flip component to their prices (this dude might win an MVP this year). I don't know how much of their current prices ate made up of that, but I'd guess it's higher for Ohtani and Judge than it is for any other players. At some point that will fall out when they start to slow down.

View Poll Results: What card would you invest 10-12K to hold long term right now
1986 Fleer #57 Michael Jordan PSA 8-8.5	14	9.40%
1948 Leaf #79 Jackie Robinson PSA 2-2.5	30	20.13%
1954 Topps #128 Hank Aaron PSA 7	24	16.11%
1989 Bowman Tiffany #220 Ken Griffey Jr. PSA 10	9	6.04%
2018 Topps #150 Shohei Ohtani Black PSA 8	16	10.74%
2000 Bowman Chrome #236 Tom Brady PSA 10	5	3.36%
1951 Bowman #253 Mickey Mantle SGC 3	25	16.78%
1951 Bowman #305 Willie Mays SGC5	3	2.01%
2013 Bowman Chrome Black Refractor Auto #47 Aaron Judge BGS 9.5/10	14	9.40%
Pie	9	6.04%
Voters: 149. You may not vote on this poll

07-07-2025, 09:03 PM	#105
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,365 ThoseBackPages	when one starts collecting its natural for them to collect what they see in front of them in both cards and on the field over time you start to go backwards and pick up old crap. thats how it works __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

07-07-2025, 09:32 PM	#108
SleepyWill Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Boston Posts: 2,581 Wilstok_0	Going with Robinson, just going to try and find the nicest eye appeal 2-2.5 I can find. If nothing jumps out at me, I'll do the most logical thing and invest in who ever goes first in this years draft __________________ Shohei Variation Chaser @Forbidden Donut on IG

07-07-2025, 09:33 PM	#109
JohnnyHatesJazz Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 7,347	I’m in my mid 40s and I absolutely LOVE vintage cards. 50s has some beautiful sets. I imagine there will always be people like me gravitating towards those iconic cards. __________________ "If you can't handle the Patriots dynastic resurgence, call 1-800-YOU-LOSE and I will be more than happy to help you free of charge. Because I'm a NICE GUY." *Captain Of The Mayeflower*

07-07-2025, 10:53 PM	#121
no10pin Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 16,904 no10pin no10pin	I can't believe that the Willie Mays RC is coming in last behind two current players and 'Pie'. __________________ Always looking for more George Brett stuff. Need more rookies, low numbered inserts/parallels and on-card autos (no Panini).

07-07-2025, 08:07 PM	#101
brewtown107 Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 2,237 brewtown107	Where are young people gonna learn about guys like Ruth, Aaron and Mays? Well, son, there's this thing called the internet, and it's my understanding that young people are on it all the time. Google "greatest baseball players of all time" and see who comes up. Look at who holds most of the career records. Those names are there. When I was in my 20s, I had no interest in vintage cards, but as I have become more vintage myself, I have gained appreciation for them. That's the normal progression. I still think Mantle is a little overrated, because he doesn't rank that high on the all time leader boards and I don't care about the New York market. But Ruth, Aaron, Mays are right up there at the top.

07-07-2025, 08:32 PM	#102
eastbayak Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 16,445 eastbayak	There's a difference between knowing the baseball legends and being interested in their vintage cards. You can also appreciate vintage cards (or vintage anything) without having any interest in actually owning them. The fact of the matter is that most of the younger generation don't particularly care for vintage cards.

07-07-2025, 08:49 PM	#103
hatchd Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,698	Tie between the Jackie and Mantle for me with the Ohtani coming in 3rd if you're feeling frisky. My write in candidate is a PSA 7-8 Frank Thomas NNOF.

07-07-2025, 09:29 PM	#107
Qubits Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: South Carolina Posts: 840	Only one of those cards is on my current wish list so it got my vote. I'd go with the Jackie.

07-07-2025, 10:46 PM	#119
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,828	This thread taught me that Hank Aaron is just a guy.

07-07-2025, 11:55 PM	#122
brewtown107 Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 2,237 brewtown107	I voted pie because Goudey Ruth was not an option, and would be the best choice

07-08-2025, 03:36 AM	#123
REGGIE206 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Mukilteo, WA (hometown: Vallejo, CA) Posts: 9,791	Out of that list, I’ll go with the Mantle RC

07-08-2025, 07:17 AM	#124
jhssketchcards Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 11,419 jhssketchcards2012	Ohtani and Judge are one injury away from their careers being over. As stellar as their careers are, it can and has happened before, especially as they age. Ohtani already has 2 Tommy John surgeries, and it could have been catastrophic when Judge was hit in the face the other day by an errant throw. I think back on Kirby Puckett and his being hit in the jaw late in 1995. It ended his season, and he was gearing up for a return next Spring he woke up one morning and his eye was bad, and ling story short, he had to retire due to loss of vision. He had driven in 112 RBI in 1994 before the strike and was having another great season in 1995 before being hit. Stuff happens. No one saw the injury train Acuna has been on. My question to investors is do you think prices would hold long term for Ohtani or Judge if a career ending injury happened before any all-time marks were hit? Still HOFers and all, but falling short of major milestones… does that impact long term investment? Of the two I’d say Ohtani holds better than Judge. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

07-08-2025, 08:13 AM	#125
Twalk1975 Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,003	I would guess active players always have a quick flip component to their prices (this dude might win an MVP this year). I don't know how much of their current prices ate made up of that, but I'd guess it's higher for Ohtani and Judge than it is for any other players. At some point that will fall out when they start to slow down.