WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 1966

Cracktoast · 06-30-2025, 08:08 PM

So Rollins is on a jet to secure a plan B so I guess we get a 3rd member soon likely at SNME. Also is it me or did that backstage segment give off vibes of Breaker going face down the road ? Trying to act like the leader of the group and Heyman reminding him his time will come just not now.

JustinVerlander07 · 06-30-2025, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cracktoast

So Rollins is on a jet to secure a plan B so I guess we get a 3rd member soon likely at SNME. Also is it me or did that backstage segment give off vibes of Breaker going face down the road ? Trying to act like the leader of the group and Heyman reminding him his time will come just not now.

3rd man so Sami/Penta/Jey vs (mystery guy), Bron, Reed at Summerslam. Meh.

They need to scrap the group, it's not working, nobody is better off for it so far.

jmarascojr · 07-01-2025, 09:14 AM

Prolly gotta keep it running until Survivor Series so they can do War Games again.

Unless they plan on doing Sikoa Bloodline vs. RR Bloodline, again...

JustinVerlander07 · 07-01-2025, 09:20 AM

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Prolly gotta keep it running until Survivor Series so they can do War Games again.

Unless they plan on doing Sikoa Bloodline vs. RR Bloodline, again...

You're right, I just don't get it. From the outside it feels like Rollins/Breakker/Reed(4th guy) vs Punk/Jey/Sami/Penta? Probably a 5th guy on both sides.

I do say every week how much I don't like Rollins, but I like everyone else in the group and I don't think anyone could say objectively so far that this is working. Nobody is better off than they were before, and while it's early the group lacks any momentum at all.

jmarascojr · 07-01-2025, 10:03 AM

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You're right, I just don't get it. From the outside it feels like Rollins/Breakker/Reed(4th guy) vs Punk/Jey/Sami/Penta? Probably a 5th guy on both sides.

Wouldn't mind an intergender War Games....

Rollins/Breaker/Reed/4th Guy/Becky Lynch
vs.
Punk/Jey/Sami/Penta/Bayley

Mandy1320 · 07-01-2025, 12:13 PM

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's Ludwig Keiser as El Grande Americano.

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El Grande Kaiser

I actually really like the idea of a random guy throwing on the leotard and mask every now and then for a laugh. Imagine the camera just randomly panning over to Otis wearing it...

jlzinck · 07-01-2025, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cracktoast

So Rollins is on a jet to secure a plan B so I guess we get a 3rd member soon likely at SNME. Also is it me or did that backstage segment give off vibes of Breaker going face down the road ? Trying to act like the leader of the group and Heyman reminding him his time will come just not now.

He's pregnant?

jlzinck · 07-01-2025, 12:45 PM

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Whenever whomever said they were only in the 3rd-4th inning a couple years ago, we all assumed it was only a 9 inning game.

This has turned into the Rochester/Pawtucket 33 inning game back in 1981

Nice callback

Cracktoast · 07-01-2025, 02:39 PM

I enjoy the Rollins/Breaker/Reed group but I dislike how easily the baby face's fight them off and send then running up the ramp. If you are going to have a heel group with guys that size they need to dominate each and every week with just the occasional baby face bump but having them need a chair or extra people to help them.

The 4 Horsemen always dominated whoever they were attacking then would make the retreat once the entire locker room emptied not just when 1 or 2 guys showed up. Same with the Original Bloodline.

cdub6238 · 07-01-2025, 06:35 PM

So..WWE maybe looking at missing 2 top stars in the bear future

Reigns..who has yet to return to tv..has already been confirmed to play Akuma in the upcoming Street Fighter live action (however horrible that decision is)

Now..Cody Rhodes is "in talks" for same said movie as Guile...wonder what the CGI budget will be to cover up his neck tatt

Cracktoast · 07-01-2025, 08:11 PM

According to report Saudi Arabia is scheduled to get a minimum of 3 PLE'S next year including Royal Rumble and one in November which is traditionally when we get Survivor Series.

JustinVerlander07 · 07-01-2025, 08:25 PM

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According to report Saudi Arabia is scheduled to get a minimum of 3 PLE'S next year including Royal Rumble and one in November which is traditionally when we get Survivor Series.

I never care about the Crown Jewel's etc because those are more or less 'made up' PLE's but the Rumble still irks me. To boot it'll be a noon start time probably? Think about your core audience!

Mandy1320 · 07-02-2025, 02:46 PM

How long until Mania takes place outside of North America?

RedLabelRecords · 07-02-2025, 08:35 PM

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I never care about the Crown Jewel's etc because those are more or less 'made up' PLE's but the Rumble still irks me. To boot it'll be a noon start time probably? Think about your core audience!

Worse if they make it another 50 man rumble. That was awful last time.

jmarascojr · 07-03-2025, 08:25 AM

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I never care about the Crown Jewel's etc because those are more or less 'made up' PLE's but the Rumble still irks me. To boot it'll be a noon start time probably? Think about your core audience!

I actually do not mind the noon/1EST starting times.

I go out, get some errands/chores done, come back in have lunch watch the PLE for a couple hours, go back out and finish my yard work...

All done before dinner time...

Must be like what West Coast people go through during NFL season...

mtr · 07-03-2025, 09:58 AM

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3rd man so Sami/Penta/Jey vs (mystery guy), Bron, Reed at Summerslam. Meh.

They need to scrap the group, it's not working, nobody is better off for it so far.

One of HHH's biggest flaws as a booker is that he just randomly throws people into a faction and expects us to care about them (Final Testament anyone?). Like why did Bron align with Seth? It's not like he's been struggling since he joined the main roster and it makes no sense for his character to agree to be someone else's lackey. And Bronson joining Seth also makes no sense. He was part of Solo's crew at War Games, got hurt, then comes back and teams up with his former enemy? Why?

JustinVerlander07 · 07-03-2025, 10:58 AM

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I actually do not mind the noon/1EST starting times.

I go out, get some errands/chores done, come back in have lunch watch the PLE for a couple hours, go back out and finish my yard work...

All done before dinner time...

Must be like what West Coast people go through during NFL season...

Work every weekend. Saturday noon starts don't work.

JustinVerlander07 · 07-03-2025, 11:00 AM

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One of HHH's biggest flaws as a booker is that he just randomly throws people into a faction and expects us to care about them (Final Testament anyone?). Like why did Bron align with Seth? It's not like he's been struggling since he joined the main roster and it makes no sense for his character to agree to be someone else's lackey. And Bronson joining Seth also makes no sense. He was part of Solo's crew at War Games, got hurt, then comes back and teams up with his former enemy? Why?

I actually liked Final Testament, I liked AOP from their initial NXT run, but it was clear they just kinda sucked in this last run. I see what HHH is trying to do, basically Evolution 2.0. Rollins is HHH, Heyman is Flair, Breakker is Batista. Reed never made sense and I've said it enough to annoy everyone but the chemistry between all of them just isn't there at all and that's the issue. Evolution had fantastic chemistry from day 1.

JustinVerlander07 · 07-05-2025, 08:37 AM

So happy Smackdown is back to 2 hours. 3 hour Smackdown's were brutal. Show had a much better flow.

Also, babyface Stratton is cringe on the mic.

Cracktoast · 07-06-2025, 10:09 PM

Solo's new group is officially being called MFT ( My Family Tree ) lol

JustinVerlander07 · 07-07-2025, 07:08 PM

So we're already teasing Seth's group breaking up eh?

Cracktoast · 07-07-2025, 07:08 PM

Yep Breaker got a curb stomp with his name written all over it. lol

JustinVerlander07 · 07-07-2025, 08:01 PM

I see they're doing the underdog story for Sami, I'm just not sure how much sense it makes to constantly have him lose on RAW if your plans are a main event push for him.

Cracktoast · 07-07-2025, 08:01 PM

Cole begging the ref to stop the match and the fans are yelling one more time one more time

bjho852 · 07-07-2025, 09:09 PM

Man...Gunther being Raw's top champion feels like an afterthought to me, even more so with Rollins being on the same brand, not to mention the angle of Punk shoving Gunther down last week.

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06-30-2025, 08:08 PM	#49126
Cracktoast Member Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 1,830	So Rollins is on a jet to secure a plan B so I guess we get a 3rd member soon likely at SNME. Also is it me or did that backstage segment give off vibes of Breaker going face down the road ? Trying to act like the leader of the group and Heyman reminding him his time will come just not now.

07-01-2025, 02:39 PM	#49134
Cracktoast Member Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 1,830	I enjoy the Rollins/Breaker/Reed group but I dislike how easily the baby face's fight them off and send then running up the ramp. If you are going to have a heel group with guys that size they need to dominate each and every week with just the occasional baby face bump but having them need a chair or extra people to help them. The 4 Horsemen always dominated whoever they were attacking then would make the retreat once the entire locker room emptied not just when 1 or 2 guys showed up. Same with the Original Bloodline.

07-01-2025, 06:35 PM	#49135
cdub6238 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 17,348	So..WWE maybe looking at missing 2 top stars in the bear future Reigns..who has yet to return to tv..has already been confirmed to play Akuma in the upcoming Street Fighter live action (however horrible that decision is) Now..Cody Rhodes is "in talks" for same said movie as Guile...wonder what the CGI budget will be to cover up his neck tatt

07-01-2025, 08:11 PM	#49136
Cracktoast Member Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 1,830	According to report Saudi Arabia is scheduled to get a minimum of 3 PLE'S next year including Royal Rumble and one in November which is traditionally when we get Survivor Series.

07-02-2025, 02:46 PM	#49138
Mandy1320 Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,790 marande-5259	How long until Mania takes place outside of North America?

07-06-2025, 10:09 PM	#49145
Cracktoast Member Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 1,830	Solo's new group is officially being called MFT ( My Family Tree ) lol

07-07-2025, 07:08 PM	#49147
Cracktoast Member Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 1,830	Yep Breaker got a curb stomp with his name written all over it. lol

07-07-2025, 08:01 PM	#49149
Cracktoast Member Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 1,830	Cole begging the ref to stop the match and the fans are yelling one more time one more time