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Old 07-07-2025, 02:46 PM   #17351
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This would be fine for cards worth thousands but unless you have fu money I'm not sure how you don't sell if you could get 7 figures. That's life changing money. I wonder how many held on to their champ tickets through covid?

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there was a guy on here who posted a ton around covid times that had a champ ticket that he held on to. I think it was around a psa 6 or 6.5. he was convinced he was going to get multiple millions of dollars for it. he held. to my knowledge, he never sold and the card is probably worth in the low 6 figures today.

he was a pretty abrasive guy.
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Old 07-07-2025, 02:58 PM   #17352
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there was a guy on here who posted a ton around covid times that had a champ ticket that he held on to. I think it was around a psa 6 or 6.5. he was convinced he was going to get multiple millions of dollars for it. he held. to my knowledge, he never sold and the card is probably worth in the low 6 figures today.

he was a pretty abrasive guy.
It was a PSA 5. Lowest grade on the Pop report.

I want to say that his claim was that he was offered $500k for it and wouldn't sell for 6 figures. And you were right, he talked a lot of smack comparing collection sizes to other people who tried to talk some sense into him and refused to acknowledge when the market began to drop.

He doesn't post very often nowadays.
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It was a PSA 5. Lowest grade on the Pop report.

I want to say that his claim was that he was offered $500k for it and wouldn't sell for 6 figures. And you were right, he talked a lot of smack comparing collection sizes to other people who tried to talk some sense into him and refused to acknowledge when the market began to drop.

He doesn't post very often nowadays.
He said he was offered a million but no one believed him.

Thankfully he was banned which is why he doesn't post anymore
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there was a guy on here who posted a ton around covid times that had a champ ticket that he held on to. I think it was around a psa 6 or 6.5. he was convinced he was going to get multiple millions of dollars for it. he held. to my knowledge, he never sold and the card is probably worth in the low 6 figures today.

he was a pretty abrasive guy.
Somewhere between 2006 to 2013, I wanna say, there was a huge run up on vintage hof rookies. Started with a Clemente & Rose PSA 9 auctions that just absolutely exploded (supposedly) that just ignited key hof rookie cards. Prices for 8s turned into 9 prices almost overnight. Then Koufax, Aaron followed. Then trickled down. I was sitting on stacks and stacks of centered examples (kinda like the Brady’s color matches now). I thought they’d never come down too. Bout a year later, some nefarious things were outed involving the validity of some of the sales kinda crashed it all overnight too. I was fine simply bc I collected prior to the run up. But I looked back at what I “shoulda” done. I learned from it. When Covid run up hit, it was for sale. Almost all of it. It was glorious. The best part was and still is to some degree buying what I wanted back at half the cost and taking full advantage of one hellavu buyers market that’s finally starting to normalize. Another run up and crash will most certainly happen. Not to the degree but never say never either. The next round, the people that shoulda sold, will. Partly because they are now more knowledgeable and mostly from just being out from under the “shoulda during Covid” cloud. All part of it. Covid run up let me retire again for the 3rd time. Can’t wait for Septembers results.
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Old 07-07-2025, 03:34 PM   #17355
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He said he was offered a million but no one believed him.



Thankfully he was banned which is why he doesn't post anymore
If i remember correctly, he PMed a deep pocketed poster in the brady thread about selling his PSA version for less than he touted it to be worth.

It was glorious when he got outed for that one

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If you all don't remember (and I do), 6GOAT789 was in this thread endlessly during Covid saying that buying anything other than Brady was stupid, that Brady was the best investment of all time, why invest in anything else, blah blah blah..... It was clear he was trying to pump up Brady cards probably because he had some high end stuff he wanted to move.

Don't get me wrong, I love Brady as much as the next fan/collector and I think his cards are a good investment, but that doesn't mean it's stupid/irresponsible to collect others as well. At this point I think of Brady cards as stable/blue chip investments. They may fluctuate up/down over time but long term it's safe and will always have value.
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If you all don't remember (and I do), 6GOAT789 was in this thread endlessly during Covid saying that buying anything other than Brady was stupid, that Brady was the best investment of all time, why invest in anything else, blah blah blah..... It was clear he was trying to pump up Brady cards probably because he had some high end stuff he wanted to move.

Don't get me wrong, I love Brady as much as the next fan/collector and I think his cards are a good investment, but that doesn't mean it's stupid/irresponsible to collect others as well. At this point I think of Brady cards as stable/blue chip investments. They may fluctuate up/down over time but long term it's safe and will always have value.
And of course that would have been the worst time to buy a lot of the popular Brady stuff. (or Mahomes, or MJ, or LeBron, etc).

It's interesting how some stuff is now higher than COVID peak, while other stuff is still much lower.
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Hmmm covid was 2020, cards were bigger in 2021

If you bought anything brady in 2020, look up exactly a year later in 2021 and the 2021 prices were way higher

Someone mentioned bowman chrome PSA 10’s for over $20k, which is correct, but that was after #7/ February of 2021

Mid covid (2020) I remember that same card was less than $10k

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Old 07-07-2025, 06:57 PM   #17359
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And of course that would have been the worst time to buy a lot of the popular Brady stuff. (or Mahomes, or MJ, or LeBron, etc).

It's interesting how some stuff is now higher than COVID peak, while other stuff is still much lower.
You’re thinking of 2021, not 2020

Compare the two years, basically any card sold for more in 2021 than 2020

Huge Brady spike was winning #7/ 2021

2020 was a bargain compared to 2021, so the opposite of “worst” time to buy

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Brady being as big as he is, why isn’t there thousands or even hundreds here? Is there discussion anywhere else? Like only 9 people here makes no sense lol
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Hmmm covid was 2020, cards were bigger in 2021

If you bought anything brady in 2020, look up exactly a year later in 2021 and the 2021 prices were way higher

Someone mentioned bowman chrome PSA 10’s for over $20k, which is correct, but that was after #7/ February of 2021

Mid covid (2020) I remember that same card was less than $10k
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If you all don't remember (and I do), 6GOAT789 was in this thread endlessly during Covid saying that buying anything other than Brady was stupid, that Brady was the best investment of all time, why invest in anything else, blah blah blah..... It was clear he was trying to pump up Brady cards probably because he had some high end stuff he wanted to move.

Don't get me wrong, I love Brady as much as the next fan/collector and I think his cards are a good investment, but that doesn't mean it's stupid/irresponsible to collect others as well. At this point I think of Brady cards as stable/blue chip investments. They may fluctuate up/down over time but long term it's safe and will always have value.
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You’re thinking of 2021, not 2020

Compare the two years, basically any card sold for more in 2021 than 2020

Huge Brady spike was winning #7/ 2021

2020 was a bargain compared to 2021, so the opposite of “worst” time to buy
The COVID Pandemic lasted from March 2020 to May 2023.

So Tonic, got any receipts about when the posts happened?

Because 2020 and for some cards, into 2021 was a great time to buy Brady. Later on in 2021 through 2023 was a very bad time, in most cases.
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Time to buy was pre 2020. I remember a poster on here selling a 2000 championship ticket bgs 8.5 for $3800 with no takers. That was 2015. I paid 8K for mine a year later.

Brady rookies were low hanging fruit for a LONG time.
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Time to buy was pre 2020. I remember a poster on here selling a 2000 championship ticket bgs 8.5 for $3800 with no takers. That was 2015. I paid 8K for mine a year later.

Brady rookies were low hanging fruit for a LONG time.
Very true! Basically everything was different 10 years ago. Who knows, possibly in 2035 people will be saying they wished they bought 10 years ago, now

Especially when Mahomes doesn’t get another ring and doesn’t play long enough to touch any Brady non ring records. The big ones anyway. Yards, TD’s and wins
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And of course that would have been the worst time to buy a lot of the popular Brady stuff. (or Mahomes, or MJ, or LeBron, etc).

It's interesting how some stuff is now higher than COVID peak, while other stuff is still much lower.
What is higher now? Some Pokemon may be.

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Time to buy was pre 2020. I remember a poster on here selling a 2000 championship ticket bgs 8.5 for $3800 with no takers. That was 2015. I paid 8K for mine a year later.

Brady rookies were low hanging fruit for a LONG time.
I think that was true of any "collectible" really. What happened post-Covid economically is what set this into motion. There was QE, stimulus/money printing, and interest lows went from the long-term long to non-existent.

It's sort of zeitgeist? But cards along with other collectibles sky rocketed. And sports cards and TCG were seen as more legitimate "investments" than ever before.

So yes you're absolutely right, Brady or any meaningful card prior to 2015-2019 was an absolute steal. The question always was, how far would it crash post-Covid-bubble. Well, not that much really and we might see more devaluing of the US Dollar and another bubble in the future (potentially).

And congrats on getting that card at that price man, that's awesome.

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What is higher now? Some Pokemon may be.

Also been reading this thread and others for a bit, decided to join in.
2012 Prizm Gold is.

Kabooms, of course.

His Flawless Autos and his dual Auto with Mahomes

I want to say, but I'm not sure, that a few of the really rare Topps Finest parallels as well, although it could be because they just didnt show up much and don't have a consistent sales record.

So it's been more insert/rarity driven. Would love to hear if anyone else knows of s
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2012 Prizm Gold is.

So it's been more insert/rarity driven. Would love to hear if anyone else knows of s
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2012 Prizm Gold is.

Kabooms, of course.

His Flawless Autos and his dual Auto with Mahomes

I want to say, but I'm not sure, that a few of the really rare Topps Finest parallels as well, although it could be because they just didnt show up much and don't have a consistent sales record.

So it's been more insert/rarity driven. Would love to hear if anyone else knows of s
Oh you meant specifically Brady, got it.

I'm not a big Kaboom guy myself. Some of the stuff I've personally been looking at might be around Covid levels or higher, not sure I want to say the specifics but:

2002 Champ Ticket /250; 2001 Playoff and UD; some other random early inserts as you said.

Right, it seems to be based on rarity. I was hunting all the champ tickets (minus 2000) just to collect, I lost the last eBay auction for the 2002 Champ in a PSA 8 I believe. Quick look-up, it went for $360 and I think I just missed it. A BGS 8.5 went for 399 or best offer.

Tried to look up Covid sales, there's nothing prior to 2022 on PSA's APR thing. Not sure if anyone could check, but yeah that might be one and it makes sense - I haven't seen one on auction in months.

I think can count on one hand how many 2001 playoff and UD Brady's I've seen on auction (for a real price or with bids) in the past two months. Let alone the National Treasures version, there was a silver I almost bought 6+ months ago I believe, it wasn't even that bad of a price either all things considered. Market definitely is hot again, and getting hotter I think.
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Oh you meant specifically Brady, got it.

I think can count on one hand how many 2001 playoff and UD Brady's I've seen on auction (for a real price or with bids) in the past two months. Let alone the National Treasures version, there was a silver I almost bought 6+ months ago I believe, it wasn't even that bad of a price either all things considered. Market definitely is hot again, and getting hotter I think.
100%. Nail on the head with those exact two cards. The only 2 cards actually from ‘01, not including their parallels. Alluded to that pair and rairity briefly in that other thread.

When the next solid examples, especially of that ‘01 PP-NT hits the block, it’ll go nuclear.

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100%. Nail on the head with those exact two cards. The only 2 cards actually from ‘01, not including their parallels. Alluded to that pair and rairity briefly in that other thread.

When the next solid examples, especially of that ‘01 PP-NT hits the block, it’ll go nuclear.
Yeah, I went to your thread over there too, you may have missed it but - 2001 playoff is a color match. I've seen you big on the color match stuff, and I think that may be the best "color match" in my subjective opinion.

I saw and bidded on a Silver NT 2001 playoff awhile back, now looking back...it was very cheap relatively. I think it only went for 350-550? I could be wrong, but it was an 8.5 BGS I recall. Might have went for 650-750 max.

Considering I've been on a tear buying Bradys and Brady rookies for my personal collection, I regret not buying that one. It was before the market got hot again probably, you might be right...I can't see that card going for less than 1k now. I've seen Panini National 1/1s Gold Vinyls recently go for 1.2k, and sure it is a "1/1" and I was considering it, but I just can't imagine the 2001 OG natty treasures /250 or whatever it is being less valuable or meaningful than the 908th 1/1 not from a "real set" from 2015-2024 alone.
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Yeah, I went to your thread over there too, you may have missed it but - 2001 playoff is a color match. I've seen you big on the color match stuff, and I think that may be the best "color match" in my subjective opinion.

I saw and bidded on a Silver NT 2001 playoff awhile back, now looking back...it was very cheap relatively. I think it only went for 350-550? I could be wrong, but it was an 8.5 BGS I recall. Might have went for 650-750 max.

Considering I've been on a tear buying Bradys and Brady rookies for my personal collection, I regret not buying that one. It was before the market got hot again probably, you might be right...I can't see that card going for less than 1k now. I've seen Panini National 1/1s Gold Vinyls recently go for 1.2k, and sure it is a "1/1" and I was considering it, but I just can't imagine the 2001 OG natty treasures /250 or whatever it is being less valuable or meaningful than the 908th 1/1 not from a "real set" from 2015-2024 alone.
What Brady rookies are you currently targeting?
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Yeah, I went to your thread over there too, you may have missed it but - 2001 playoff is a color match. I've seen you big on the color match stuff, and I think that may be the best "color match" in my subjective opinion.

I saw and bidded on a Silver NT 2001 playoff awhile back, now looking back...it was very cheap relatively. I think it only went for 350-550? I could be wrong, but it was an 8.5 BGS I recall. Might have went for 650-750 max.

Considering I've been on a tear buying Bradys and Brady rookies for my personal collection, I regret not buying that one. It was before the market got hot again probably, you might be right...I can't see that card going for less than 1k now. I've seen Panini National 1/1s Gold Vinyls recently go for 1.2k, and sure it is a "1/1" and I was considering it, but I just can't imagine the 2001 OG natty treasures /250 or whatever it is being less valuable or meaningful than the 908th 1/1 not from a "real set" from 2015-2024 alone.
I landed my PP-NT, silver & sample about a year and a half ago. So, I have it, just hadn’t gotten to them yet.

Just finishing up on a storage renovation project. Now I’m in the middle of the complete collection clean-out, reorganization, data-entry, picture taking before loading it all back in type scenario.

Those are great, low-key cards though and a rare example of how a dominant HOF was skipped over in his SECOND year vs. Purdy, per say.
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Very true! Basically everything was different 10 years ago. Who knows, possibly in 2035 people will be saying they wished they bought 10 years ago, now

Especially when Mahomes doesn’t get another ring and doesn’t play long enough to touch any Brady non ring records. The big ones anyway. Yards, TD’s and wins
the problem is the cost of these cards now is astromically higher even with inflation counted in so it's only a small select group who could even afford todays prices. 3,500 in 2015 was doable for most people of one if his best rookie cards but now only the rich or people who trade up can afford
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I'm taking a break for a bit on rookies. 2000 Gold Reserve is on my radar though, I just recently bought the 2000 Vanguard /762 instead, I got it in a BGS 9 with all 9.5s except for the 8 surface we can ignore that... The vanguard is a card I've wanted for years. Finally got it delivered the other day. I'll post my Brady collection sometime soon, but I've been looking to get a 2001 Brady (psuedo-rookie imo). None are coming up.

I've got a decent collection going of Brady, nothing like Davey here has from what I've read (almost every rookie and some crazy variants). Got some cool stuff though and I'll post pics when I get around to it.
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the problem is the cost of these cards now is astromically higher even with inflation counted in so it's only a small select group who could even afford todays prices. 3,500 in 2015 was doable for most people of one if his best rookie cards but now only the rich or people who trade up can afford
Todays prices? Look at eBay/sales history lol tons are buying. No cheap Brady autos either.

Look up pretty much all since you seem to be lost lol but tons are buying.

And lots/most aren’t cheap. It’s all price relative though. A lower end card going for less than a higher end

Right now, what’s is auto going for? A Bowman PSA 8? Sales prices, number of bids etc, tons are buying

Annoying when misinformation is spread here
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